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Old 08-20-2007, 08:59 AM   #61
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Ic is the ultimate delusional bandaid










Someone here is delusional....not sure if it's 99% of the members here....
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Jesus, just refreshed the page and then all most spit food everywhere! Nice thread rename.

Lets just agree on this:

FMIC = good thing.
WI = good thing too.

FMIC+WI= Sexy TIME! :gay:
Hmm i wonder who renamed it :gay:
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:25 PM   #63
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Anybody run Coastal Gas Line antifreeze?
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Old 08-20-2007, 09:26 PM   #64
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Hmm i wonder who renamed it :gay:
Needs more zip ties
As you can see my car also features a lot of zip ties. I admit my **** doesn't look good.
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Old 08-20-2007, 10:44 PM   #65
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FMIC = necessary with 6~7+ psi and WI = nice addition but you can run out of water/mth mix and then what run 5psi till ya get to somewhere :gay: Why not run WI in tandom w/map select ? Even better you get normal boost above 6 psi, like 12 w/FMIC of course and then hit the switch and WI is engaged with boost bumped via EBC to 17 or so. Use it when ya want to and don't rely on it 100% to run over 6psi. You gotta be carefull posting so much about WI replacing FMIC.. This gives neewbs the idea that they won't need fmic then what happens when they run outta water and don't have thier **** straight and blow somthin up FMIC or at least an IC is a stardard part of good turbo system, fmic = reliable will never fail shy of a rock piercing it or a tube blowing off but that could happen anyway. WI introduces many potential points of failure especially for those that arn't all that electrically savy and those that don't insulate hoses and wires with extra tubing where they could rub.. Wi is badass but not a full out fn replacement for WI unless you enjoy going to buy the mix for it and always have time to go deal with that.. Misleading newbies is lame..
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I have mounted the pressure switch under the dash before. Tee off the boost gauge signal line.

Glad to see you are finally getting around to installing it. Also....ANDY FLOYD STILL HAS NOT FULLY PAID ME FOR HIS KIT!!!!!






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Maybe you should send him to collections?
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Didn't he used to work for you guys?
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Indeed he did. I don't work there anymore either, but yes.
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If a fmic is keeping the intake temps down why would I need wi? Can I really run that much higher advance with wi even if I have a huge fmic?
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LOL @ thread title
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If a fmic is keeping the intake temps down why would I need wi? Can I really run that much higher advance with wi even if I have a huge fmic?

yeah cause then you'll be below ambient temps most likely.
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The water slows combustion ...like race gas. Thats how you get away with the additional timing and boost. Thats how you make waaay more power than with an intercooler alone. Its the cheapest 15-50 whp you can get!
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Why not run WI in tandom w/map select ? Even better you get normal boost above 6 psi, like 12 w/FMIC of course and then hit the switch and WI is engaged with boost bumped via EBC to 17 or so.
https://www.miataturbo.net/methanol-water-injection-22/my-failsafe-mechanism-9083/

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This gives neewbs the idea that they won't need fmic then what happens when they run outta water and don't have thier **** straight
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unless you enjoy going to buy the mix for it and always have time to go deal with that.. Misleading newbies is lame..
One 5 gallon jug of VP M1 Methanol: $23
Ten gallons of distilled water: $7
One spare gallon jug, for mixing: $0
Five quart "G-Man" go-kart fuel tank in the trunk: $28
Only having to refill once a week: Priceless.

There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's Boost.
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55 galons of pure methanol 130$ topend lube 1 per barrel 14$ 1 pump 10$ cost per gallon $ 2.80
Not paying 4$ a gallon at the local race shop priceless.
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Ya I really need to find a local source for methanol. I don't want to run washer fluid+heet. Forever.
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Go to a local heating fuel depot etc, they should be able to get you some for the same type price i did. Keeping 55 gallons on hand is not for the faint of heart though.
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Yeah Joe you def did it right, way to represent :-) This is what I'm talking about a safe install well thought through. When I do go WI, this route is the basis of what I'm gonna do (I got lucky, exede will control WI and do it on map bank select basis, so some some changes there but I love the safety aspects of your install).


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One 5 gallon jug of VP M1 Methanol: $23
Ten gallons of distilled water: $7
One spare gallon jug, for mixing: $0
Five quart "G-Man" go-kart fuel tank in the trunk: $28
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I want to see just how much better magna's WI-only setup is over an IC-only setup.

Lets see some dyno sheets or timeslips.
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I want to see just how much better magna's WI-only setup is over an IC-only setup.
The only evidence I have to support WI over IC is anecdotal. Imagine that you are pouring methanol out of five-gallon VP Fuel jug into the trunk of your car. Your neighbor saunters over while carrying a lit cigarette and asks "What's That?" You turn your head slightly (while still pouring) and replay "It's pure methanol."

The subsequent reaction from said neighbor (and the fact that he then proceeds to tell everyone who will listen that "Joe runs methanol in that little Miata of his") is better than the reaction when they see "Oh, it's an intercooler. Just like Ted's pickup truck. (yawn)"
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Another guy made big power with a FMIC and a DO kit. Audi 1.8T with a GT3071r. He was previously limited to 328 whp on pump gas. He just dynod at 380 since he was able to add so much more timing and boost. This is on 91 octane.
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