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Old Oct 26, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Tune by knock is the most retarded tuning philosophy in the world. The only reason nobody ran widebands back in the day was because they were ******* expensive and nobody except shops with dynos could afford them, like you said. Now that there are cheap controllers and cheap sensors, you can install one in your car for $250.

I could go on forever about how dumb your tuning methods are, if you really want me to. Telling people that a wideband is not necessary for designing your own turbo setup is just stupid, and I'm not surprised that people keep blowing **** up without them.
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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How is tuning by knock dumb? I've made more power than 99% of this forum by tuning by knock and never blew an engine. Guess I am "retarded" according to all the guys who made 200hp with a Miata.
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Maybe, at the time, it was a good way to do it, but now it would be considered a bad way to tune. You get a better tune with a WB, and datalogging, then you ever will with your ear.
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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but that's not tuning, that's just making due.


first time i ever went to a dyno i was down a crapload of power cause i was going rich as **** up top. at the same boost level i walked away with something like 20rwhp with a little tweaking of fuel and spark.
Old Oct 26, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Go tune a rotary by knock, then come back and tell me it isn't retarded.

After you pay for the engine rebuild, that is.
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