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aidandj 12-01-2016 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1378413)
Creep on top = misaligned wastegate actuator

I would say there is 5-10kpa of creep above 6000rpm. Nothing noticeable, but it's there if you look at the data.

Savington 12-01-2016 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1378474)
I would say there is 5-10kpa of creep above 6000rpm. Nothing noticeable, but it's there if you look at the data.

Should be 3kpa at most. I usually see none, even down at 7psi.

EO2K 12-01-2016 06:27 PM

Andrew, that is with the 6758 and the "Medium" BW actuator?

Savington 12-01-2016 06:55 PM

That is both turbos on the low or medium actuators. 6258 should be 7psi on low, 10psi on medium with no EBC. I would have to look at logs of the 6758 on low, but on medium it's the same (10-11psi). No creep on any of the combinations.

aidandj 12-01-2016 10:05 PM

This is with EBC set on a constant value (30% DC). So it's not true "creep". Just a rise in boost pressure as RPM increase. Dropping EBC duty cycle tuned it out just fine.

We didn't do any wastegate only pulls.

Setup Mode all 30% DC.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...86c3077ee8.png

Setup Mode all 35% DC

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9cd823c7a0.png

Random Basic Mode. (200 on the slider I think)

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2bde7e4890.png

Overall it was great. Started to rain before we could dig in more. Very impressed with the setup. Cannot wait to get mine on.

And the video in non retard mode


farpolemiddle 12-11-2016 08:43 PM

http://m.ebay.com/itm/99-00-MAZDA-MIATA-MX5-DOHC-ENGINE-6-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-JDM-BP-BP4W-/371784478765?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE



seriously considering this. Figure $2,000 for this plus another $1,500 for refresh and assembly? I have rods, boundary pump, arp studs, Sm damper already. Yay or nay?

recoup a little selling left over stuff when I'm done plus sell my non blown up na8 engine and 5 speed. Or keep na8 for when I blow new one.

icantlearn 12-12-2016 12:58 AM

whats so good about it?

aidandj 12-12-2016 01:08 AM

You can buy a vvt motor and 6 speed for less than that.

ridethecliche 12-12-2016 01:23 AM

Yeah, I was going to say... Either I have friends that have an eye for stupid good deals or that setup is incredibly expensive.

afm 12-12-2016 02:41 AM

I bought a JDM VVT motor with a 6 speed AND a squaretop for less than that.

borka 12-12-2016 10:17 AM

why overpay for low miles JDM if you are rebuilding anyway?

vvt motors can be had for $500 at junk yards, and $600 for 6spd

Savington 12-12-2016 03:45 PM

That's a terrible core candidate.

ridethecliche 12-13-2016 07:59 PM

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!

curly 12-13-2016 10:46 PM

We can usually get good VVT cores at AR for a few hundred less than that. I don't think I've ever seen $500 cores, but we've gotten a few 100-150k motors. These are motors we do a water pump/timing belt job on and drop in the car, generally very clean.

farpolemiddle 12-16-2016 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by afm (Post 1380669)
I bought a JDM VVT motor with a 6 speed AND a squaretop for less than that.


where? I have been searching and I'm not seeing these vvt 6 speed combos for less.

afm 12-16-2016 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by farpolemiddle (Post 1381781)
where? I have been searching and I'm not seeing these vvt 6 speed combos for less.

Also Ebay. But now that I think about it, mine was mis-listed as a BP4W, and I called the seller a few times to make sure it was the thing in the picture :)

It only makes sense if you're going to run the JDM motor as-is. You have an NA8 block, use that! Especially if you're going to refresh whatever VVT/BP4W head you get.

farpolemiddle 12-16-2016 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by afm (Post 1381792)
Also Ebay. But now that I think about it, mine was mis-listed as a BP4W, and I called the seller a few times to make sure it was the thing in the picture :)

It only makes sense if you're going to run the JDM motor as-is. You have an NA8 block, use that! Especially if you're going to refresh whatever VVT/BP4W head you get.

The car is running now so I would like to keep it that way while building a motor. I am going to need a 6 speed same time I Uograde. The bp4 heads seam to go for almost as much as a complete engine and I am going to need all the stuff that it comes with like intake and such. My thought process of using a core in good shape is I could possibly get away with reusing the stock pistons. I only want to upgrade those if I have to.

ridethecliche 12-18-2016 12:25 PM

Call junkyards, check craigslist, and facebook groups local to you that sell this stuff. A friend just recently bought a NB2 engine/trans/intake with a clutch for like 600 or so. It had about 100k on it.

farpolemiddle 12-29-2016 12:37 PM

1995 Ford Escort GT


What about a Escort GT as a core? Low ball this guy for like $200 or $300?

aidandj 12-29-2016 12:42 PM

Duuude. Don't pull that motore. Put the TSE kit on that.


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