Needs wife mod.
Most expensive mod there is. |
Originally Posted by farpolemiddle
(Post 1378174)
My wife won't even ride in the car anymore.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1378175)
Needs wife mod.
Most expensive mod there is. |
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How much psi are you running? I must have missed it before.
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Originally Posted by MiataMan00
(Post 1378275)
How much psi are you running? I must have missed it before.
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Originally Posted by farpolemiddle
(Post 1378277)
10ish right now. I am battling with EBC.
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Originally Posted by MiataMan00
(Post 1378278)
Yup thats my situation as well.
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Not exactly. It will hold ~150kpa just fine, with a bit of creep at the end. So ebc should have an easy time. Did you try raising the Delta like I suggested?
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I did raise it I was still getting creep. I am going to mess with it more today. It is actually fun. I don't have any really nice open streets on my side of the river though. Mostly doing the onramp thing. I seem to be fighting issues with consistency.
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With Boost control Speed table does is it just set the upper limit and anything below the upper limit reverts to the target table? Does my 94 even have a speed input back to the MS? When you set the table up do you want it at 0 kpa or 100 kpa? For example my table now is.
20MPH = 0 kpa 45 = 0 55 = 145 65 = 170 100 = 170 120 = 170 I suspect for this really to work well I need to figure out a ABS type sensor or something on a front wheel. |
I wonder if it's possible to rig up one of those magnetic bicycle Speedos to MS, and then recalibrate it for a 15" wheel.
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Your megasquirt has a speed input. It's really nasty. Cable might need to be lubed. Use boost by gear instead of boost by speed.
Look at your logs. The cluster outputs a 0-5v square wave generated from the cable input. The megasquirt can read this. Abs sensor is a VR signal that ranges in amplitude based on speed. You need a VR conditioner to take advantage of that. I currently have both front and rear abs sensors wired in so I can do differential wheel speed traction control |
Why are you even thinking about messing with boost by speed or by gear when you can't even get EBC to work properly without it?
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Creep on top = misaligned wastegate actuator
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Originally Posted by shuiend
(Post 1378400)
Why are you even thinking about messing with boost by speed or by gear when you can't even get EBC to work properly without it?
Good point. The roads are snot around here right now. I am tired of sliding around if I even remotely push the gas. I moved the delta way up and that did help. I am going to slowly bring it back down. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1378413)
Creep on top = misaligned wastegate actuator
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1378366)
Your megasquirt has a speed input. It's really nasty. Cable might need to be lubed. Use boost by gear instead of boost by speed.
Look at your logs. The cluster outputs a 0-5v square wave generated from the cable input. The megasquirt can read this. Abs sensor is a VR signal that ranges in amplitude based on speed. You need a VR conditioner to take advantage of that. I currently have both front and rear abs sensors wired in so I can do differential wheel speed traction control I am going to pick your brain at some point about all this. It is over my head a little now but it won't be some day. |
Creep and overshoot are distinctly different. Creep = boost rise with RPM.
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Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1378463)
Creep and overshoot are distinctly different. Creep = boost rise with RPM.
Sorry. Noted. I have/had a overshoot issue. |
Originally Posted by Savington
(Post 1378413)
Creep on top = misaligned wastegate actuator
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1378474)
I would say there is 5-10kpa of creep above 6000rpm. Nothing noticeable, but it's there if you look at the data.
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Andrew, that is with the 6758 and the "Medium" BW actuator?
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That is both turbos on the low or medium actuators. 6258 should be 7psi on low, 10psi on medium with no EBC. I would have to look at logs of the 6758 on low, but on medium it's the same (10-11psi). No creep on any of the combinations.
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This is with EBC set on a constant value (30% DC). So it's not true "creep". Just a rise in boost pressure as RPM increase. Dropping EBC duty cycle tuned it out just fine.
We didn't do any wastegate only pulls. Setup Mode all 30% DC. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...86c3077ee8.png Setup Mode all 35% DC https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9cd823c7a0.png Random Basic Mode. (200 on the slider I think) https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2bde7e4890.png Overall it was great. Started to rain before we could dig in more. Very impressed with the setup. Cannot wait to get mine on. And the video in non retard mode |
http://m.ebay.com/itm/99-00-MAZDA-MIATA-MX5-DOHC-ENGINE-6-SPEED-MANUAL-TRANSMISSION-JDM-BP-BP4W-/371784478765?nav=WATCHING_ACTIVE
seriously considering this. Figure $2,000 for this plus another $1,500 for refresh and assembly? I have rods, boundary pump, arp studs, Sm damper already. Yay or nay? recoup a little selling left over stuff when I'm done plus sell my non blown up na8 engine and 5 speed. Or keep na8 for when I blow new one. |
whats so good about it?
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You can buy a vvt motor and 6 speed for less than that.
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Yeah, I was going to say... Either I have friends that have an eye for stupid good deals or that setup is incredibly expensive.
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I bought a JDM VVT motor with a 6 speed AND a squaretop for less than that.
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why overpay for low miles JDM if you are rebuilding anyway?
vvt motors can be had for $500 at junk yards, and $600 for 6spd |
That's a terrible core candidate.
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THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!
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We can usually get good VVT cores at AR for a few hundred less than that. I don't think I've ever seen $500 cores, but we've gotten a few 100-150k motors. These are motors we do a water pump/timing belt job on and drop in the car, generally very clean.
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Originally Posted by afm
(Post 1380669)
I bought a JDM VVT motor with a 6 speed AND a squaretop for less than that.
where? I have been searching and I'm not seeing these vvt 6 speed combos for less. |
Originally Posted by farpolemiddle
(Post 1381781)
where? I have been searching and I'm not seeing these vvt 6 speed combos for less.
It only makes sense if you're going to run the JDM motor as-is. You have an NA8 block, use that! Especially if you're going to refresh whatever VVT/BP4W head you get. |
Originally Posted by afm
(Post 1381792)
Also Ebay. But now that I think about it, mine was mis-listed as a BP4W, and I called the seller a few times to make sure it was the thing in the picture :)
It only makes sense if you're going to run the JDM motor as-is. You have an NA8 block, use that! Especially if you're going to refresh whatever VVT/BP4W head you get. |
Call junkyards, check craigslist, and facebook groups local to you that sell this stuff. A friend just recently bought a NB2 engine/trans/intake with a clutch for like 600 or so. It had about 100k on it.
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Duuude. Don't pull that motore. Put the TSE kit on that.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1383765)
Duuude. Don't pull that motore. Put the TSE kit on that.
Bahahahahahahahaha |
Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1383765)
Duuude. Don't pull that motore. Put the TSE kit on that.
Seriously though. Bad idea? I bet I can get it cheap and I kind of dig the valve cover. |
Don't know much about those. Probably would end up being fine. I want the front subframe and maybe trans if you end up sending the thing to the junkyard. I have dreams of a rear engine'd miata powered dune buggy with an escort subframe.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1383771)
Don't know much about those. Probably would end up being fine. I want the front subframe and maybe trans if you end up sending the thing to the junkyard. I have dreams of a rear engine'd miata powered dune buggy with an escort subframe.
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so r u gonna get it?
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Originally Posted by MiataMan00
(Post 1383903)
so r u gonna get it?
looking at it tomorrow. apparently it runs and drives. I won't have to tow it home. Hoping to get it for less than $300 |
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Ah, Martin's engine. I dunno if I would have recommended that. But it is what it is.
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Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1384417)
Ah, Martin's engine. I dunno if I would have recommended that. But it is what it is.
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Martin just isn't known for being the most forthright seller. He's had nothing but issues with that car since he built the motor, yet he's advertising everything like it was all hunky dory.
Hopefully the issues were sorted and it treats you well. |
Well great. Hopefully his issues were not with the long block.
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Well I didn't see that coming.
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Issues were with the turbos blowing up and the stupid fab 9 intercooler blocking flow to the radiator. Motor was running great otherwise. It ran a full season at 245 whp without issues other than constantly replacing MSM turbos, then the overheating issue reared its head when the fab 9 intercooler was installed. When the cooler was removed it was all good until another MSM turbo took a dump. Also why the motor received a head refresh and new t belt/WP job because we were trying to figure out the overheating which was the intercooler. Motor always made good power and had great compression before it was pulled.
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Well I have a much bigger radiator and a much smaller intercooler. Also will be on the street. Now I need to figure out all this CAS and crank angle sensor stuff. My 949 Damper does not have a trigger wheel and I am pretty sure that is a thing. So just put damper on and use CAS? Needs 6 speed I thinks.
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949 sells a 36-2 wheel that will work with your ms3.
The CAS wires will get repurposed and go to the cam and crank sensor. Wanna trade than Honda intake mani for a VICS :D |
Lol Aiden.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
(Post 1384430)
949 sells a 36-2 wheel that will work with your ms3.
The CAS wires will get repurposed and go to the cam and crank sensor. Wanna trade than Honda intake mani for a VICS :D SURE. Seems like a fair trade. To be honest the fancy intake is what sealed the deal for me. And obviously the valve cover stays turbo. That is worth $1,000all by itself. |
That intake manifold was nice, but there's little issues with it, like you have to bend your fuel hard lines a little to fit next to the manifold, and theres no provisions for an IAC. I did plumb a bypass solenoid to let it idle better when cold, and it worked great. Hook it up to a PWM output and you'll have a remote IAC.
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Originally Posted by curly
(Post 1384494)
That intake manifold was nice, but there's little issues with it, like you have to bend your fuel hard lines a little to fit next to the manifold, and theres no provisions for an IAC. I did plumb a bypass solenoid to let it idle better when cold, and it worked great. Hook it up to a PWM output and you'll have a remote IAC.
Yeah he gave me the bypass. If you are cool with it I may pick your brain on to set that up. I am going to order the 949 32-2 wheel and NB throttle cable probably today. Trying not to go the lazy CAS route. I am going to try and modify the MSM oil return somehow. I am thinking of chopping the MSM bolt on return, adding a bead and bending it forward then having a hose made with 10an fitting on one side and nothing on the other then just slipping it over and clamping it. I will know more when I get my manifold and turbo on it. |
Someone probably makes a 10an adapter or something for the msm pan
Something like this: http://www.bellengineering.net/product_info.php?products_id=211 But cut up your own and make it 1/2 npt |
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