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farpolemiddle 02-20-2017 11:08 PM

Got rid of my intake. All the turbo sounds are gone. Sad face.

Lexzar 02-23-2017 05:06 PM

You were running 10psi on the stock block? Any idea of power?

farpolemiddle 02-24-2017 08:05 PM

Still running 10 pounds. I have put the laptop away and just drive it on the reg. So far all is good. If I had to guess maybe high 100s. First gear is roasting regardless of traction. Second holds if it is good dry road. iI haven't had it in a dyno. Waiting for summer to swap the motor and tranny.

farpolemiddle 03-01-2017 08:09 PM

Fix or find another car and swap? I have a built engine 6 speed on standby that I was waiting to swap this summer.





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aidandj 03-01-2017 08:15 PM

Ouch. What happened man.

Definitely not fix.

Onyxyth 03-01-2017 08:16 PM

Ah fuck. I think that's toast, that sucks.

dleavitt 03-01-2017 08:21 PM

Catfish or Exocet time!

farpolemiddle 03-01-2017 08:21 PM

Still runs and drives fine. I don't think it popped the radiator. I think I should find a non running 94 and swap all my shit then sell the rest.

icantlearn 03-01-2017 10:19 PM

that sucks. It looks repairable to me. What happened?

farpolemiddle 03-01-2017 10:25 PM

tow truck made a right turn then immediately stopped for a ambulance 100 meters to it's front. I turned right behind the tow truck while looking over my left shoulder for on coming traffic.

icantlearn 03-01-2017 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by farpolemiddle (Post 1396248)
tow truck made a right turn then immediately stopped for a ambulance 100 meters to it's front. I turned right behind the tow truck while looking over my left shoulder for on coming traffic.

Did the cops say anything about the turbo?

farpolemiddle 03-01-2017 11:52 PM

Cops? Why would they care? I ran into a tow truck. I talked the guy into giving me a free tow home so no cops anyway.

icantlearn 03-02-2017 12:22 AM


Originally Posted by farpolemiddle (Post 1396256)
Cops? Why would they care? I ran into a tow truck. I talked the guy into giving me a free tow home so no cops anyway.

In my neck of the woods they care. I figured you might have hit a company truck so cops would of had to come by law/policy or whatever.

x_25 03-02-2017 08:08 AM

Tube front and V mount? Looks fixable to me though.

Ryan_G 03-02-2017 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by MiataMan00 (Post 1396258)
In my neck of the woods they care. I figured you might have hit a company truck so cops would of had to come by law/policy or whatever.

It probably was a company truck and the driver didn't want to deal with the police or his bosses.

aidandj 03-02-2017 09:01 AM

There was probably zero damage to the tow truck.

in Oregon you don't have to report accidents to the police under a certain damage value, let alone get them involved at the scene.

bahurd 03-02-2017 09:09 AM

In OH, no personal injury = no police. Only report if damage > $400 which nobody does unless filing insurance claim. Trade name, address, and vehicle registration number to all the parties.

Cops usually take their sweet time, if at all, responding to accidents with no injuries.

Lexzar 03-02-2017 04:28 PM

I feel you could fix it. Once you start tearing into taking the broken stuff off, it may not be that bad too replace.

ridethecliche 03-02-2017 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Lexzar (Post 1396344)
I feel you could fix it. Once you start tearing into taking the broken stuff off, it may not be that bad too replace.

Yeah, this.

After figuring out if you want to go through insurance/their insurance/whathaveyou, look around for part outs local to you and see what you can find and how much it would cost. I'm guessing you're not going to do much with their insurance (or even yours) since you implied that you were at fault, right?

Lexzar 03-02-2017 05:55 PM

Technically his fault yeah, even if just a simple error. I've done the exact same ting a couple years ago in my daily. Right onto a busy street, didn't see car stopped as I was checking left.

Call me crazy, but I'd rather keep all the hard work of fitting things into the chassis in tact. Pull the bumper and hood off. Really check things out, if it is just the radiator support you're golden. Given the fact that the intercooler looks like untouched it is probably not that bad once you really get into it. Maybe I get too emotionally invested in my chassis :eggplant:

farpolemiddle 03-02-2017 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1396288)
There was probably zero damage to the tow truck.

in Oregon you don't have to report accidents to the police under a certain damage value, let alone get them involved at the scene.


This. If anything I scraped some rust off his hitch for him. Dude was a friendly enough guy from one of the Stans and had no problem throwing on the back of his truck and towing me home. I ran into him after all even if it was a shit place to stop. I don't have full coverage on a 94 miata so I will be dealing with it.

farpolemiddle 03-02-2017 07:02 PM

Cut the radiator support out and such. The radiator brackets on the car and radiator itself are a little tweaked but can be made to work. The radiator looks like it was kissed. There is a little coolant down in the wind tray but not much. Might have been from the hoses getting pinched and moved. I am probably going to check the radiator for leaks. Is this module I am holding the airbag sensor? How structural is all the crap I cut out?



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miata2fast 03-02-2017 07:37 PM

If you look at my build thread, you will see I replaced both the radiator support and bumper support. I bought both pieces from the dealer and welded them in myself. I didn't think it was too tough a job.

I sure hope you fix it.

farpolemiddle 03-02-2017 07:43 PM

I am leaning more towards finding another Stock NA and swapping everything. I planned on doing the engine tranny swap this summer anyway. I am just going to be patient and try and find one that doesn't run with a decent body for hopefully around 2k the part everything left over.

Leafy 03-02-2017 09:26 PM

If you didnt dingus the chassis behind the sway bar keep it.

Lexzar 03-02-2017 09:48 PM

That is the airbag sensor yes.

And not very important structurally if at all. I could bend it with my body.

aidandj 03-02-2017 09:53 PM

If you got the pieces and prepped them I'd be happy to bring my welder over and stick them together for you.

farpolemiddle 03-03-2017 12:25 AM

If it has the crash bar tying the frame together is what I cut out even needed? The car went under the truck hitch so most of that was missed. Couldn't I leave all that shit out for "weight loss" and just pin the hood? I am seriously considering just swapping th bumper and hood and seeing what happens.

aidandj 03-03-2017 12:29 AM

I also cut my radiator support out. But I think I'm going to add back a piece to mount the bumper in the middle. If your crash beam is good then the car is probably fine.

icantlearn 03-03-2017 12:47 AM

id fix it...:rolleyes:

farpolemiddle 03-03-2017 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1396423)
I also cut my radiator support out. But I think I'm going to add back a piece to mount the bumper in the middle. If your crash beam is good then the car is probably fine.


Miatamecca Front Bumper Upper Retainer Support 90-97 Miata MX5 OEM NA01500K0B | eBay

you could probably just use this part.

aidandj 03-03-2017 01:28 AM

My bumper already has that. I mean where that bolts to.

x_25 03-03-2017 11:25 AM

If you were anywhere near NJ I would have the perfect front clip for you. It hit rocks along the bottom, so all the top parts you hit are in perfect shape.

farpolemiddle 03-03-2017 02:09 PM

Does $1,000 for a hood, fender, door and bumper skin sound like too much? Dude literally has everything I need in the right color.

aidandj 03-03-2017 02:10 PM

Yes. That is a huge ripoff. Each of those parts should be like $100 max.

farpolemiddle 03-03-2017 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1396493)
Yes. That is a huge ripoff. Each of those parts should be like $100 max.


yeah that's what I though as well. Hard to pass on the right color within driving distance and they pull the parts for me. Dude in the phone sounded Russian which scares me. Russians in the pnw and cars equals pass almost every time for me.

shuiend 03-03-2017 02:28 PM

Those prices sound about average for a random junkyard. 10 years ago or so I was in a similar accident. The body shop paid something like $500 for a local hood. As shipping an aluminum hood is a royal pita. You can find all the parts cheaper, but you will be searching for a while, and they probably won't be close or in the color you want. Spec miata people also buy the shit out of fenders and drive up those prices.

Ryan_G 03-03-2017 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by farpolemiddle (Post 1396494)
yeah that's what I though as well. Hard to pass on the right color within driving distance and they pull the parts for me. Dude in the phone sounded Russian which scares me. Russians in the pnw and cars equals pass almost every time for me.

See what you can negotiate him down to. If you don't need to repaint that saves a ton of money.

EO2K 03-03-2017 02:30 PM

That depends, how much does paint and body cost in your neck of the woods? $100 per part is $400, but then factor in $800 worth of paint and prep... you get the idea.

Of course I think of these things a bit differently, because my color is a bit harder to find and nearly impossible to match :sad2:


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1396500)
Spec miata people also buy the shit out of fenders and drive up those prices.

This is making it nearly impossible for me to find a hood locally at any price. Fucking spec miata :vash:

aidandj 03-03-2017 02:31 PM

Doesn't chiprez (local guy) have a white car hes parting out?

aidandj 03-03-2017 02:34 PM

Nvm. Its gone.

farpolemiddle 03-03-2017 02:48 PM

I am going to think on it and call Monday. If they still have everything and are willing to deal then I'll probably go for it if everything is in nice shape. I NEED the hood and bumper. I WANT the fender and door if this car is going to look 100% again. Inshallah

farpolemiddle 03-06-2017 09:40 PM

I pulled the trigger on the hood, door, bumper and fender for $1,000. I am getting ripped off but the color was condition was perfect right down to the appropriate amount of scratches. I swapped the hood and door on. Need to get the fender and bumper cover tomorrow. There will be some tweaking and adjusting but overall I think it will be on the ground after a get some hood pins and the radiator pressure checked.

icantlearn 03-06-2017 10:10 PM

Well that was a relatively expensive accident. Glad to see your fixing the car though.

farpolemiddle 03-06-2017 10:19 PM

It is only cheap because I am skipping doing it right. If I did it right it would be a lot more money and effort. I am going to leave the rad support cut out. I also may have to convert the turn signals into headlights and do the rivet thing with the headlight covers. the rad support took so much of the crash that it actually pulled the inner fender supports in as well. I will have to spread those out somehow as well.

icantlearn 03-07-2017 01:21 AM

I'm saying it wasn't cheap. 1k=mucho monies

Onyxyth 03-07-2017 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by farpolemiddle (Post 1397165)
It is only cheap because I am skipping doing it right. If I did it right it would be a lot more money and effort. I am going to leave the rad support cut out. I also may have to convert the turn signals into headlights and do the rivet thing with the headlight covers. the rad support took so much of the crash that it actually pulled the inner fender supports in as well. I will have to spread those out somehow as well.

Seems like a rad support would work pretty well to spread that out ;)
I wonder how hard it is to (cleanly) cut it out. I have a parts car that was rear ended, if my rad support is straight (it was an r-title car, so I'm not 100% sure), I'd be willing to cut it out and ship it. You'd have to weld it back in, or maybe rivet it.

farpolemiddle 03-07-2017 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by Onyxyth (Post 1397201)
Seems like a rad support would work pretty well to spread that out ;)
I wonder how hard it is to (cleanly) cut it out. I have a parts car that was rear ended, if my rad support is straight (it was an r-title car, so I'm not 100% sure), I'd be willing to cut it out and ship it. You'd have to weld it back in, or maybe rivet it.

I appreciate the offer but I could get that off the car I have here as well. I would rather start with a different car then go through that.

miata2fast 03-07-2017 12:37 PM

It didn't take me long to remove the bumper and radiator support, but I also have an array of air tools for such work. The whole project was much easier than I anticipated actually.

farpolemiddle 03-09-2017 03:49 PM

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So this is where I am at now. I have a solution for most of it but this is giving me shit. The radiator support took all of it and stopped the car. The passenger side seams to be the worst where it collapsed in. This shifted the still functioning headlights in. I am leaning towards getting a slide hammer and pulling on things until it is closer. Advice?

aidandj 03-09-2017 03:53 PM

Hook chain to truck, hook chain to car. TUG :D

farpolemiddle 03-09-2017 04:04 PM

Winch instead of chain maybe.

farpolemiddle 03-09-2017 05:09 PM

I am thinking that I could just put the new fender on minus the front bolt which should not line up. Measure how far off the bracket is off from the fender. Pull the fender and aidandj away with a chain. I have hood pins and some latches on the way. I am going to use pins behind the headlight and two latched from the hood to the front bumper to keep all that together. Upside to all this is I should have a bunch of room to mount and oil cooler now. Dropped the radiator off for pressure testing. Fucker was a little dinged but man is it a trooper of a radiator.

farpolemiddle 03-09-2017 05:10 PM

This was the worst of it. Had to bend that brackets back as well.


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farpolemiddle 03-10-2017 12:08 AM

Can anyone think of a reason why I should not just cut this the rest of the way out? I need the mount circled in blue for the radiator and the front fender bolt but the cuts made in red to remove the section in orange does not really have a job anymore. The radiator mount doesn't look like it needs to be super stout or that front fender section.






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miata2fast 03-10-2017 08:03 AM

Have you looked to see what those parts cost? Having done it myself, the only option for me would be remove the two parts and install new ones. As flimsy as they appear, together they add a lot of rigidity to the car, and could make the car unsafe in an accident without them.

Edit: Also, replacing the parts properly would enhance the value of the car tremendously.

farpolemiddle 03-10-2017 01:16 PM

I am not concerned about the value of the car. If I ever sold it I would part it anyway. There is no money in selling a turbo NA complete.

farpolemiddle 03-10-2017 01:22 PM

Just heard back from the radiator shop. So I did bust the radiator. Some leaks and core damage. They said it is fixable and still flows well. So a little under $100 to save a $600 radiator seems like a no brainer.

x_25 03-10-2017 09:33 PM

The two sides that crushed in, bottle jack and some bars, spread them back apart until one lines up, then tug the other into place with winch.

farpolemiddle 03-10-2017 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by x_25 (Post 1398002)
The two sides that crushed in, bottle jack and some bars, spread them back apart until one lines up, then tug the other into place with winch.

Yeah that is what I basically did but pure winch and hammer. Felt ghetto but came out good. Ran out of light and give a fuck so I will finish it sunday. Everything feels less flimsy than I thought it would. I may need to brace the corner a little bit but it can wait.https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7840070338.jpg
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