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Originally Posted by ken o
(Post 876498)
I run the e46 M3 in TX NASA TT.
NASA TX does care about the rules. My car is TTB legal with 39 points my sheet is on file if you would like to see it just ask. Mod points are, ** +14, 275mm R6 +14, intake +1, pulleys +1, exhaust +2, AST 4200 +3, springs +2, brakes +2, total 39 points. Plus the free mods, camber plates, bushings, etc. The car is built to the top of the class. Power to weight is legal. I am happy to dyno my car at any event/track. I never had any issues at TT Nationals with tires or engine mods. I usually run on new or fairly new 275mm Hoosiers R6. Fresh tires make a difference as mentioned in this thread by spoolin2bars. I am at a track or autocross event almost every weekend, practice, practice, practice. My M3 has had 48K miles on it in 3 years and I don't daily drive it. |
Originally Posted by ken o
(Post 876498)
I am at a track or autocross event almost every weekend, practice, practice, practice. My M3 has had 48K miles on it in 3 years and I don't daily drive it.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 876527)
You have to admit that that your 10.8hp/lb ratio to my 11.6hp/lb ratio, the NT-01 that are 50mm skinnier, and general gayness means there is no way in hell I will ever be competitive in that class. I basically there to help other people win tires. I believe you're a better drive, but I don't believe you're a 4-second better driver than me at Hallett, there is just no way. The same is true with the other tracks aside from TWS.
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Originally Posted by ken o
(Post 876531)
I agree that your car is under classed. I think if you tried fresh tires it might help.
I have a set, but at 260whp and new NT-01's the best I've run at Hallett is not a 24. If I could get 1-point back somewhere I could run front and rear aero, that might put me closer to you...I think a wing and splitter would change the game on my car but my only option is to put a 5-speed back in it. Right now I'm trying ------- surgery instead so who knows when I'll drive again, if ever. I kind-of over it these days and not exactly in a hurry to track the car again. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 876535)
Last time we ran Houston early on Saturday we were together out of Diamond's Edge and you put-a bus-length on me when we got to sweeper. I was so pissed.
I have a set, but at 260whp and new NT-01's the best I've run at Hallett is not a 24. If I could get 1-point back somewhere I could run front and rear aero, that might put me closer to you...I think a wing and splitter would change the game on my car but my only option is to put a 5-speed back in it. Right now I'm trying ------- surgery instead so who knows when I'll drive again, if ever. I kind-of over it these days and not exactly in a hurry to track the car again. |
Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 801077)
and TTB has a 10hp/1lb limit for a reason.
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Originally Posted by ken o
(Post 876544)
Can you run R6s?
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lol @ NASA classing:
TTC Eric Foss Mazdaspeed 3 01:57.351 Nov-11 |
Have you considered used R6's? Give John Berget a call (http://www.jbracingtires.net/). He sells half worn tires for about $50 a piece. They aren't as fast as new R6's, but they may be faster than NT-01's... and they are definitely cheap.
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 876561)
lol @ NASA classing:
TTC Eric Foss Mazdaspeed 3 01:57.351 Nov-11 It was great watching him at TWS last November in the rain. He was stomping everyone on the track in that car, and I mean everyone, at least everyone in the TT sessions. |
Originally Posted by Handy Man
(Post 876615)
Have you considered used R6's? Give John Berget a call (http://www.jbracingtires.net/). He sells half worn tires for about $50 a piece. They aren't as fast as new R6's, but they may be faster than NT-01's... and they are definitely cheap.
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Originally Posted by ZX-Tex
(Post 876617)
You gotta remember Eric Foss is a pro driver. That car is mostly stock on take-offs. Stock motor, downpipe mod worth 20-30 hp or so, stock brake calipers and rotors... Most of that awesomeness is due to the equipment between the seat and the wheel (driver).
It was great watching him at TWS last November in the rain. He was stomping everyone on the track in that car, and I mean everyone, at least everyone in the TT sessions. Here is his mod-list: Mods are SURE intake, SURE Flow M3, SURE RMM, Carbotech pads, DBA Rotors, Cobb AP @ 16.5psi and BFG R1's 225/45r17. Meh, I'm tired of living through this ---- again and I've had a lot more fun since I stopped tracking this car. I'm going back to not driving the turbo car and wishing I had a Mustang. |
There is no way the NT01 is faster than the R6.
Going fast isn't cheap I've found...but grip is the #1 thing to have. Trey have you tried Hankooks? The Z214 DOT tire I mean :) I may buy a set of those in a 225/45-15 C51 at some point... |
From my experience, BFG R1 are quick on heavy cars (not available in 275 tho). Just like R6 (275) they take 2-3 laps to reach their optimal temperature. A6 (275) are quicker to reach their temp and they don't overheat (5-7) laps. At least on my 200HP/2300lbs (consistent 140-150F).
Will collect data on used A6 vs new R6 (both 275) on the next Time Attack in June. |
Originally Posted by ZX-Tex
(Post 876617)
You gotta remember Eric Foss is a pro driver. That car is mostly stock on take-offs. Stock motor, downpipe mod worth 20-30 hp or so, stock brake calipers and rotors... Most of that awesomeness is due to the equipment between the seat and the wheel (driver).
It was great watching him at TWS last November in the rain. He was stomping everyone on the track in that car, and I mean everyone, at least everyone in the TT sessions. I watched Mike Skeen do other-worldly ---- behind the wheel of a ZR-1 last weekend. If you were ever looking for an ego deflation, (and this works especially well if you have data), put a pro behind the wheel of your car. |
Originally Posted by miata_racer
(Post 876699)
There is no way the NT01 is faster than the R6.
Going fast isn't cheap I've found...but grip is the #1 thing to have. Trey have you tried Hankooks? The Z214 DOT tire I mean :) I may buy a set of those in a 225/45-15 C51 at some point... |
Originally Posted by miata_racer
(Post 876699)
There is no way the NT01 is faster than the R6.
Going fast isn't cheap I've found...but grip is the #1 thing to have. Trey have you tried Hankooks? The Z214 DOT tire I mean :) I may buy a set of those in a 225/45-15 C51 at some point... |
Lol @ old thread, but theres no way nt-01's are as fast as a6/r6. Once the hoosiers fall off sure, but not new. Plus you have multiple wheels. You run nt-01s to practice on then put the hoho's on for a few laps on the last session or 2. And stop being a -----. You've gotten faster which is the point. Who cares if you can't win your class. You don't have fun out there? I missed msr-c this year and by month 3 I was having serious withdrawals. I was a ticking time bomb, sorry to anyone I offended or assaulted last month! Lol
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Originally Posted by spoolin2bars
(Post 876891)
Lol @ old thread, but theres no way nt-01's are as fast as a6/r6. Once the hoosiers fall off sure, but not new. Plus you have multiple wheels. You run nt-01s to practice on then put the hoho's on for a few laps on the last session or 2. And stop being a -----. You've gotten faster which is the point. Who cares if you can't win your class. You don't have fun out there? I missed msr-c this year and by month 3 I was having serious withdrawals. I was a ticking time bomb, sorry to anyone I offended or assaulted last month! Lol
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Originally Posted by hustler
(Post 876783)
so those will hopefully be a more grippy option that does not cost $1000 per set.
That being said, it is also a reason I didn't bother finishing my TTD car. |
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