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Old 09-09-2016, 01:46 PM
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That's funny.

"no warranty because racing. BUT I LIKE racing, so i'm going to send you hubs anyway."

Thanks for following up.
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Now that's customer service. Some vendor should be taking notes on how to engage with the customer.
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Originally Posted by hornetball
Also, for Aidan, the grease seals on this hub had visible markings:





Lol just saw this. @hi_im_sean
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That's awfully nice of them. Maybe you can compare the 100% legit Timkens versus the Rock Auto ones. I'd be curious if RA somehow ended up with knock-offs.
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Originally Posted by Onyxyth
That's awfully nice of them. Maybe you can compare the 100% legit Timkens versus the Rock Auto ones. I'd be curious if RA somehow ended up with knock-offs.
I'd be fairly surprised if RA sold me something else in a Timken box (edit: come to think of it they have fucked up some parts I've ordered before..), but as I posted earlier the $20CAD/each uber cheap Chinese stamped RA bearings don't have this machining feature so I don't believe that's the case. I think this is a ABS hub feature as someone else alluded too above.
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Props to Patrick for being cool anyway.

You should email him a link to this thread.
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My free hubs came in, going straight to the garbage.
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But why?! Machined sharp edges and stress concentrations.
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Originally Posted by dc2696
I'd be fairly surprised if RA sold me something else in a Timken box (edit: come to think of it they have fucked up some parts I've ordered before..), but as I posted earlier the $20CAD/each uber cheap Chinese stamped RA bearings don't have this machining feature so I don't believe that's the case. I think this is a ABS hub feature as someone else alluded too above.
From what I understand Rock Auto is just a network of auto stores selling their parts online and "Rock Auto" themselves never actually hold product.

I had a few discussions with our sales department about them at my last job and they are not officially a customer so it's impossible to enforce MAP pricing.
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Jeez!

Strike Timken.

So far so good on my Mazdaspeed HDs. 1 track day at MSR-C (1.7CCW) and 2 at Hallett (1 CW and 1 CCW).
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As another data point, I went and purchased new Duralast ABS hubs at autozone. No machining where the studs go in, but.....





Dafuq? Why would they machine them there?

notable markings?




@OGRacing do your auto zone parts store hubs have this machining on them?
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Somebody in China is confused.
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I have some Detroit axle front ABS hubs.

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Almost all of the ABS hubs have that second machined section, which is why I'm ---- about getting non-ABS hubs. It's for a different tone ring that's shown in some of the pictures. I assume it allows the miata hub to be shared with some other vehicle.

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Interesting. Jpreston, it looks like the Non-abs hubs you got were still machined for our tone rings.
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I have some non-abs Detroit axle front hubs at home also. I will snap some pictures of those tonight.
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Do you guys think that second set of machining is a problem? Are OEM ABS hubs machined there? Don't have one handy at the moment...

Still paging @OGRacing to see if his surprisingly durable ABS Duralast hubs have the same machining mine do.

I hope so. I'd like to run them. Only paid $46 apiece for them.
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OEM hubs do not afaik. I will check min tonight also.
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Originally Posted by turbofan
Do you guys think that second set of machining is a problem? Are OEM ABS hubs machined there? Don't have one handy at the moment...

Still paging @OGRacing to see if his surprisingly durable ABS Duralast hubs have the same machining mine do.

I hope so. I'd like to run them. Only paid $46 apiece for them.
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oh sorry lol. the hubs are on the car. thrashing now to get it ready for Octoberber Nasa @road atl. If i get a chance I'll see if i can shine a light in there.
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
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Pretty please.
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