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Old 11-22-2013, 01:55 PM   #1
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I've just about got my turbo build finalized, but then I started to see "NOT CARB LEGAL" on almost every thread about any turbo kits. But I know 18psi is in California as well, does he beat around the bush with this or is there a way I can make it work?

Or, what I think I may do is go for a stupidcharger, apparently they ARE CARB LEGAL. I'd be able to reach my 180hp power goals and I love the robotic whine of them.. What do I do?!
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Is this news to you? Are you like 19?

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But I know 18psi is in California as well, does he beat around the bush with this or is there a way I can make it work?
His is not CARB legal. Its obviously not intended to be driven on public roads inside the state.

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Or, what I think I may do is go for a stupidcharger, apparently they ARE CARB LEGAL. I'd be able to reach my 180hp power goals and I love the robotic whine of them..
Problems: you haz them.

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What do I do?!
Kill yourself?

There are CARB legal turbo options for your car. No DIY turbo setup will ever be CARB legal. Period. Sell off all your **** and buy a MP62 based Supercharger kit from FFS or call BEGI and order a turbo kit with a CARB cert so you can get your sticker.

OR

You can keep all your stock parts around and revert back to OEM every 2 years, and try not to get busted by the police in the meantime while your VTA BOV is chuffing at everyone. This may be a challenge as 19 year olds generally don't have the life experience to have developed the finely honed sense of discretion required to keep from getting in boost all the time.

Good luck and may doge have mercy on your soul

(I'm generally not this cranky but I had a really bad evening and you poked a stick into one of my sore spots)

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buy an RC car; you'll get the sound you love.
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Actually, that was quite helpful. Cranky, yes, but helpful. Made me laugh too, as I'm 18, and you seem to know us 18 year olds pretty well.
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A miata is basically as close I as I can get to a RC car that I can drive. Basically, that's what I wanted in the beginning a RC car.

(Funny side note, my initials are RC and I love RC cola.)
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I bet you only like RC cola BECAUSE your initials are RC.
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The closest thing you can get to a CARB legal turbo miata is an FC/FD imo. if you're going to turbo just dont do stupid **** to get you pulled over
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I bet you only like RC cola BECAUSE your initials are RC.
RC cola just tickles me in such a better way than Coke and Pepsi. And I feel cool, maybe.
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The closest thing you can get to a CARB legal turbo miata is an FC/FD imo. if you're going to turbo just dont do stupid **** to get you pulled over
I'm not the one to do stupid **** on public roads. Maybe once I got pulled over, but I didn't get a ticket, so that doesn't count.
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I was 18 already, you are still figuring it out

But seriously, there is A LOT of stuff that goes into a CARB cert. Its not that "a supercharger is CARB legal" it has to be A SPECIFIC supercharger KIT from a SPECIFIC manufacturer using a SPECIFIC set of parts in a SPECIFIC configuration. Plus you have to have the sticker.

http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-617.pdf

Above is the link to CARB EO# D-617. This is the CARB EO# that covers the FFS MP62 for 90-05 Miatas. That should give you a better idea of what I'm talking about.
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I was 19 already, you are still figuring it out But seriously, there is A LOT of stuff that goes into a CARB cert. Its not that "a supercharger is CARB legal" it has to be A SPECIFIC supercharger KIT from a SPECIFIC manufacturer using a SPECIFIC set of parts in a SPECIFIC configuration. Plus you have to have the sticker. http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-617.pdf Above is the link to CARB EO# D-617. This is the CARB EO# that covers the FFS MP62 for 90-05 Miatas. That should give you a better idea of what I'm talking about.
Yes, actually. That helps explain what you're talking about. Did the SC actually put out less emissions on their tests? Or do the numbers get smaller as the emissions go up?
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Actually, that was quite helpful. Cranky, yes, but helpful. Made me laugh too, as I'm 18, and you seem to know us 18 year olds pretty well.
yeah, but only when I'm in the mood for a cougar.
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yeah, but only when I'm in the mood for a cougar.
I think you are the cougar.
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yeah, but only when I'm in the mood for a cougar.
I think you are the cougar. And use this forum to reach out to the younger, ignorant kids that post about egay turbo kits.
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Every two years my car goes back to bone stock for a few days. Its really not as huge a deal as everyone makes it sound, and gives you an opportunity to make sure everything is tip top and working right. A good thorough once over if you will. Win win.

I have literally "been there done that" with the FFS supercharger. Notice how I pulled it off after like 2 days? That should tell you something.
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18psi, I might end up having to do something like that. Thanks for the input man
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Californians don't throw away their stock parts.

I still own my midpipe with cat intact and crossover pipe and I no longer live in CA nor do I have a miata anymore.
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Californians don't throw away their stock parts.
So true. Even the small amount I've done to my miata, I still have every bolt.

Looks like that is going to be the plan. Thanks for all the helps d00ds.
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God damn that's so true. You should see all the crap in my garage
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God damn that's so true. You should see all the crap in my garage
Enough parts to build a stock miata?
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