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Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats. (https://www.miataturbo.net/)
-   Supercharger Discussion (https://www.miataturbo.net/supercharger-discussion-38/)
-   -   TDR Rotrex Update with Dyno Charts! (https://www.miataturbo.net/supercharger-discussion-38/tdr-rotrex-update-dyno-charts-86349/)

Braineack 10-22-2015 01:21 PM
Originally Posted by albuquerquefx (Post 1277497)
Why did the original dyno on the 1.6L Sunburst stop at 5500RPM? Is that the factory redline for that car? (I honestly do not know.) If that's the factory redline, what work was performed to allow it to spin to 7250?
The Base Line dyno for the stock 1.6L we had was from an earlier dyno run and did not match up to our current dyno charts.
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albuquerquefx 10-22-2015 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1277508)
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Noob status:confirmed. :(

patsmx5 10-22-2015 03:12 PM
Originally Posted by dcamp2 (Post 1277422)
I'm sure it's fine for most... Especially those who will appreciate decent power gains for minimal installation work and fuss.
Sounds perfect. I bet they will sell a lot of them if the kit is as well sorted as it looks. Sounds like they fixed all the problems I've read about older rotrex kits (compressor too small, oil getting too hot for rotrex, cracked mounting hardware).

Having made my own DIY SC kit (and mine is no where near as nice as theirs), I can tell you it's wayyy harder to get it working well compared to a turbo setup. If this were for sale before I built mine, I probably would have bought it.

patsmx5 10-22-2015 03:14 PM
Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1277429)
Wow. 310 injectors? When I make 220hp I'm using 75% duty cycle of my 610cc injectors.
That don't sound right for the HP on your setup. I thought people made 300whp with 550s on gasoline?

black roadster 10-22-2015 03:15 PM
Originally Posted by robertcope (Post 1277292)
Very nice. I'm assuming it can make more power with a build motor?

robert
Yes. These were all stock motors. TDR has a track car with a fully built motor running MegaSquirt. They will be getting it dynoed ASAP.

Originally Posted by Oh4One4 (Post 1277304)
Were AFR's mapped for those runs?
These examples are using piggy-back fuel and timing controllers.

Originally Posted by dcamp2 (Post 1277419)
Nice. Glad someone is making progress on a rotrex kit!

I'm slightly skeptical of the dyno charts (mostly the 1.6), just based on what Mobius and a few others have done on more heavily worked over 1.8l engines.
TDR was as surprised as anybody. These are not inflated but corrected charts.

Originally Posted by dcamp2 (Post 1277422)
I'm sure it's fine for most... Especially those who will appreciate decent power gains for minimal installation work and fuss.
The idea is simplicity and no fuss. I can't wait to see what the TDR Track Beast dynos at. I'm thinking over 300 RWHP

Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1277428)
I bet they achieved those numbers using Stoly as an octane booster.
Let's not go there. :vash:

Originally Posted by Mazduh (Post 1277437)
Nice numbers. I'd love to see this kit with a proper ems.
Hopefully soon! The Fuel and Timing cards are actually pretty good though. Perfect for simplicity and safe reliability.

Originally Posted by albuquerquefx (Post 1277497)
Why did the original dyno on the 1.6L Sunburst stop at 5500RPM? Is that the factory redline for that car? (I honestly do not know.) If that's the factory redline, what work was performed to allow it to spin to 7250?
The Base Line dyno for the stock 1.6L TDR has was from an earlier dyno run and did not match up to their current dyno charts.

aidandj 10-22-2015 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1277588)
That don't sound right for the HP on your setup. I thought people made 300whp with 550s on gasoline?
I'll post a log when I get back to my computer.

Found one. Attached. 220hp run. Dyno plot is somewhere in my build.

I even found the dynojet run file.

Chilicharger665 10-22-2015 03:41 PM
So what all size Rotrex's can fit on your bracket? C15-60, C30-64, C30-74, C30-84, and C30-94?

Are there prices yet?

I really like the position of your Rotrex oil cooler and I talked to William last week about you guys mirroring that on the other side with an engine oil cooler. How is that coming along?

black roadster 10-22-2015 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Chilicharger665 (Post 1277600)
So what all size Rotrex's can fit on your bracket? C15-60, C30-64, C30-74, C30-84, and C30-94?

Are there prices yet?

I really like the position of your Rotrex oil cooler and I talked to William last week about you guys mirroring that on the other side with an engine oil cooler. How is that coming along?
I know we've used a C30-74, C30-84 and C30-94 with our bracket.

Looking at starting around $4700 with inter-cooler, fuel management, catch can, injectors, fuel pump, etc...

This is William! :giggle: I believe Gary made the mirrored engine oil cooler brackets so they should hopefully be out soon as well.

albumleaf 10-22-2015 10:47 PM
Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1277420)
:giggle::hatecat:


I bet the fuel and timing is "SUPER OPTIMIZED" with those power cards
:giggle:
If there's anything Tuning Done Right knows it's timing and fuel.

wannafbody 10-23-2015 09:51 AM
Looks like a nice kit for the DIY installer who wants reliability and not having to repair their car constantly.

How would a Rotrex and a coldside double charger system work? Might be a sick build if you could keep the engine in one piece. If you can twin turbo, who not a twin supercharger system?

dcamp2 10-23-2015 10:23 AM
Originally Posted by wannafbody (Post 1277796)
Looks like a nice kit for the DIY installer who wants reliability and not having to repair their car constantly.

How would a Rotrex and a coldside double charger system work? Might be a sick build if you could keep the engine in one piece. If you can twin turbo, who not a twin supercharger system?

Why not get a bigger supercharger if you want more power? Have you seen any twin charged DIY systems work well? I haven't.

aidandj 10-23-2015 10:26 AM
How is a fuel card and 3* retarded timing reliable?

black roadster 10-23-2015 10:27 AM
Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 1277701)
If there's anything Tuning Done Right knows it's timing and fuel.
TDR is a trademark of Track Dog Racing. Tuning Done Right is in no way affiliated with TDR or Track Dog Racing.

albumleaf 10-23-2015 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by black roadster (Post 1277802)
TDR is a trademark of Track Dog Racing. Tuning Done Right is in no way affiliated with TDR or Track Dog Racing.
:giggle:

albuquerquefx 10-23-2015 01:09 PM
Yeah, I saw the FPR and timing retard tricks; someone, somewhere will drop a standalone into the setup and find another 15 horses without trying.

Braineack 10-23-2015 01:12 PM
Originally Posted by albuquerquefx (Post 1277860)
Yeah, I saw the FPR and timing retard tricks; someone, somewhere will drop a standalone into the setup and find another 15 horses without trying.
what do they do about the lack of tq?

shuiend 10-23-2015 01:14 PM
Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1277864)
what do they do about the lack of tq?
Not bend rods?

mgeoffriau 10-23-2015 01:18 PM
Downshift?

Braineack 10-23-2015 01:23 PM
how does downshifting make up for the lack of about 50rwtq on all these plots?

Dunning Kruger Affect 10-23-2015 01:35 PM
Originally Posted by black roadster (Post 1277802)
TDR is a trademark of Track Dog Racing. Tuning Done Right is in no way affiliated with TDR or Track Dog Racing.
Could have fooled me. :hatecat:


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