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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by kotomile
I haven't heard of the Carbing trans brace, and google got me nowhere. Pics?
+1, I was being lazy and didn't feel like asking, but since you have I will also request more info. I have Mazdaspeed engine mounts and still have **** tons of movement through my shifter. I'm sure diff mounts would help, but this trans mount sounds interesting. I have always looked at the mounting area on the trans where the PPF bolts up and wondered what a brace bolted to the frame rails and that mount would do. Probably more vibration, but no movement.
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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Shitty small pic, but best I have right now. If you want more, I can take some.



It runs across where a subframe brace would go, and has a plate that attaches to the bellhousing. That plate is attached to the main brace via two rubber snubbers/vibration isolators.

EDIT - it is still on my desk, not installed, so no first hand report on its worthiness...

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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BradC
Shitty small pic, but best I have right now. If you want more, I can take some.



It runs across where a subframe brace would go, and has a plate that attaches to the bellhousing. That plate is attached to the main brace via two rubber snubbers/vibration isolators.

EDIT - it is still on my desk, not installed, so no first hand report on its worthiness...
Where did you get it, and for how much? I quite like that.
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy
Where did you get it, and for how much? I quite like that.
Ebizzle, like $50 something...nobody really bid on it and I got lucky. The MSRP from Carbing was much more then that, IIRC.

I don't know that they make them new anymore, but...

Moss had one. I found a link to a .pdf install sheet and an old product page but looks to be discontinued...

Tools required: small flat blade screwdriver

Mazda Miata Parts & Accessories at MiataMania.com

Also - https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t9859/

If there is interest, I could make them.
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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If they're discontinued and there's a demand, someone here ought to take that ball and run with it!
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by kotomile
If they're discontinued and there's a demand, someone here ought to take that ball and run with it!
Looking into it now, see what kind of MOQ is needed to run this...
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BradC
It runs across where a subframe brace would go, and has a plate that attaches to the bellhousing. That plate is attached to the main brace via two rubber snubbers/vibration isolators.

EDIT - it is still on my desk, not installed, so no first hand report on its worthiness...
It's the best chassis mod i've done and i'm n/a! Any bracing that a 5 speed can get should potentially help prolong the life.

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Ebizzle, like $50 something...nobody really bid on it and I got lucky. The MSRP from Carbing was much more then that, IIRC.

I don't know that they make them new anymore, but...

If there is interest, I could make them.
Wow, you got a deal. I payed $80 for mine from Cr.net These were like $150+ from Japan. They are no longer made.

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If they're discontinued and there's a demand, someone here ought to take that ball and run with it!
Agreed.

This brace improves throttle response, allows you to shift easier/not miss shifts, and significantly reduces drivetrain movement. Expect to hear more drivetrain noise, such as vibrations, but well worth it!
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While I am thinking about this...

Is there any interest in a front STB with a brake master cylinder brace (like the Carbing, but for LHD cars)?
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BradC
While I am thinking about this...

Is there any interest in a front STB with a brake master cylinder brace (like the Carbing, but for LHD cars)?
Yes. What would you make it out of? Tig welded aluminum?
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I'd be willing to pay upwards of $150 for a brace like that one. I want it and I want it now!!! How no one is currently making one of these, and how I didn't know of them before is amazing. This looks like it would be the best mod yet.
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BradC
While I am thinking about this...

Is there any interest in a front STB with a brake master cylinder brace (like the Carbing, but for LHD cars)?
I am definitely interested assuming it's a 3 point. I thought sbcocker was going to come through with these, but haven't heard.

I'd be all off a STB that has all the nice features and is below $200. The really nice ones (without MC brace) run north of $300.
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Originally Posted by BradC
Shitty small pic, but best I have right now. If you want more, I can take some.



It runs across where a subframe brace would go, and has a plate that attaches to the bellhousing. That plate is attached to the main brace via two rubber snubbers/vibration isolators.

EDIT - it is still on my desk, not installed, so no first hand report on its worthiness...
I will buy if you don't try to skull-**** my checking account.
Old Jun 26, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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No checking account skull-******* planned Hustler...

I will get on this and let everyone know ASAP, same with a 3-pt FSTB.

As a heads up, I've done projects like this in the past on other forums (I sell an MSP FMIC kit) so I have feedback that I am not a scam-artist or trying to peddle ****.

I will keep all posted.
Old Jun 27, 2009 | 05:38 PM
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I think my last post got deleted, but on the track I noticed a big difference with the racing beat control arm brace paired with the sway bar brace. Makes the front feel very solid and connected. I also don't have any of the shimmy I used to get when i'd drive over bad roads. I plan on doing the cannon brace soon too
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 03:28 AM
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butterfly brace will give you the most for your buck, but installing them is a pain.
Old Jun 28, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Door bars has more bang than butterfly.
Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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I to would like a trans and STB brace. Get it going, you should have no problem selling either.
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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Looks like it should be possible to mod the brace from 949 to do this.

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Though its an easy location to place the brace, it isn't very far behind the engine mounts. I would love to see something around the PPF bolts at the rear of the trans. Would have to bolt to the "frame rail" through the floor pan though, or weld a bracket onto it.
Old Jul 8, 2009 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by hustler
I will buy if you don't try to skull-**** my checking account.
+1 on no skull ******* group buy...



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