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Old 03-16-2014, 04:26 AM
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There's also this, if you want to ditch the hard pipe, the two rubber lines, and the curly cue line. MiataRoadster "Straight Shot" clutch line
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Cameron dont you already have that long line I sent with you? Or is that not long enough for the whole thing?
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Originally Posted by TheScaryOne
There's also this, if you want to ditch the hard pipe, the two rubber lines, and the curly cue line. MiataRoadster "Straight Shot" clutch line
I already have a line that goes from the old firewall connection on the passenger side to the slave, but thanks I wasn't aware that line went all the way across!

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Cameron dont you already have that long line I sent with you? Or is that not long enough for the whole thing?
Both those lines went from the factory soft line position on the passenger side of the firewall to the slave, not the hole way.
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For the record there is a restrictor in the MSM master cylinder in the banjo bolt adapter. I swapped the master cylinder to the common non MSM one and the pedal is free to move as fast as my foot now.
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This is new info to the MSM community. I don't clutch drop any of my cars so I never noticed anything strange. Now I need to try and remember if the track car kept the NA clutch hydraulics or got the MSM transplant... Master, slave and the 949 braided line have been changed anyway but I don't remember about the hard line banjo fitting...
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I swear i saw a thread about this on mazda-speed forums a year or two ago, but i couldn't find it when i went back and searched.
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Originally Posted by mr_hyde
This is new info to the MSM community. I don't clutch drop any of my cars so I never noticed anything strange. Now I need to try and remember if the track car kept the NA clutch hydraulics or got the MSM transplant... Master, slave and the 949 braided line have been changed anyway but I don't remember about the hard line banjo fitting...
I find it really amazing nobody else ever posted any definitive answer to the question, but it is extremely obvious driving it back to back. And I bled the **** out of it before I swapped the master since that's what everyone said would fix my slow pedal.

I left the box with the old master and slave at the shop, but I will get detailed pictures when I return for more dyno work.

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I swear i saw a thread about this on mazda-speed forums a year or two ago, but i couldn't find it when i went back and searched.
IIRC the guy said "yeah it has a delay valve" and that was that.
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Originally Posted by vteckiller2000
For the record there is a restrictor in the MSM master cylinder in the banjo bolt adapter. I swapped the master cylinder to the common non MSM one and the pedal is free to move as fast as my foot now.
Note to self...swap out my Master Cylinder or remove restrictor
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Originally Posted by Preluding
Note to self...swap out my Master Cylinder or remove restrictor
You're going to want to do that with that bull of an engine!
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