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emilio700 02-15-2013 08:48 PM

New SuperMiata Sport Clutch
 
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We're proud to announce the new made in USA SuperMiata Sport clutch kits for B6 and BP engined Miatas. These have been in development for over two years. The very first prototype actually won E2 and finished 8th overall the 2011 Thunderhill 25 hours in Bellwilliam's Miata "Enzo". I'm not sure he knew he was a clutch test guinea pig :). We also offer lightweight flywheels to make a complete install.

For full details and specs, visit the website.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1360979307https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1360979307
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18psi 02-15-2013 08:52 PM

Sweet.

Too bad its not for turbo applications

emilio700 02-15-2013 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 979497)
Sweet.

Too bad its not for turbo applications

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18psi 02-15-2013 09:03 PM

lol I wanted to clarify but already closed the page. 260 crank torque aint much on a turbo car

emilio700 02-15-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 979500)
lol I wanted to clarify but already closed the page. 260 crank torque aint much on a turbo car

320 whl torque on the 1.8 ceramic. For those that need more we have this fellow.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1360980636

EO2K 02-15-2013 09:49 PM

Dammit Emilio!

I buy cheap ass rims, you release 6UL
I buy FatCat Blisteins, you release XIDA CS
I buy Corrado/Wilwood brake kit, you release SuperMiata Wilwood brake kit
I buy ATI damper, you release SuperMiata Damper
I buy FM clutch kit*, you release SuperMiata Clutch kit

I'm starting to notice a pattern here. I guess for the good of the community, I should go buy a 6 speed? :giggle:

* For the record, nothing wrong with my FM clutch kit, I just thought it was funny.

njn63 02-16-2013 12:32 AM

Any idea how the pedal effort compares to the Flyin Miata Level 1 clutch?

emilio700 02-16-2013 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by njn63 (Post 979536)
Any idea how the pedal effort compares to the Flyin Miata Level 1 clutch?

Nope, haven't driven an FM clutch. Pedal is light with ours. The diaphragm spring is thin gauge and heat treated. The gives it the correct spring rate without requiring a lot of force to bring over center. Not every clutch manufacturer uses heat treated diaphragm springs so you'd have to ask them.

Keeping a light pedal was the original impetus for the design actually. I don't mind a heavy pedal myself but virtually every one of my team drivers complained about the heavy effort Race Twin Rental and Crusher. So we did some tweaking to what became the Sport Clutch design to make it closer to stock effort. Goal was for a small female to be able to handle it easily.

curly 02-16-2013 01:05 AM

I'm guessing there's a torque difference between the 1.6 and 1.8? Website says 260/320 for both.

emilio700 02-16-2013 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 979543)
I'm guessing there's a torque difference between the 1.6 and 1.8? Website says 260/320 for both.

Doh. Typo.
230 Organic 1.6
260 Ceramic 1.6

Those are conservative numbers. Pretty sure a new clutch, broken in properly will hold a bunch more. We guarantee the cover and disc against failure (not wear) wait for it.. forever.

mr_hyde 02-16-2013 03:01 AM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 979507)
Dammit Emilio!
I'm starting to notice a pattern here. I guess for the good of the community, I should go buy a 6 speed? :giggle:

Inside sources are telling me 949 will be releasing their 7 speed transmission right after you buy a 6 speed. They are also developing an amplifier that goes to 11. :party:

duffbuster243 02-16-2013 07:52 AM

Looks good. out of curiousity what diameter is the organic 1.8 disc 215mm or 225mm?

I need a more comfortable clutch, the F1 stage 3 I have grabs hard but it is getting tiring to drive the car with it.

emilio700 02-16-2013 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by duffbuster243 (Post 979582)
looks good. Out of curiousity what diameter is the organic 1.8 disc 215mm or 225mm?

I need a more comfortable clutch, the f1 stage 3 i have grabs hard but it is getting tiring to drive the car with it.

215

albumleaf 02-16-2013 03:55 PM

Are those numbers wtq or at the flywheel? Either way, this makes my decision a lot easier, was thinking of splashing out for the FM Happy Meal, but $300 for a proven clutch and possibly a cheap 1.8 flywheel if need be, and I'll be quite happy. I plan on hitting around 200-210whp on my 1.6 and I'd like the lighter pedal feel of the organic, should I bother with a 1.8 flywheel for the extra grab?

edit: looks like wtq from what you posted earlier in this thread, I'm dumb.

emilio700 02-16-2013 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 979664)
Are those numbers wtq or at the flywheel? Either way, this makes my decision a lot easier, was thinking of splashing out for the FM Happy Meal, but $300 for a proven clutch and possibly a cheap 1.8 flywheel if need be, and I'll be quite happy. I plan on hitting around 200-210whp on my 1.6 and I'd like the lighter pedal feel of the organic, should I bother with a 1.8 flywheel for the extra grab?

edit: looks like wtq from what you posted earlier in this thread, I'm dumb.

I would suggest the 1.8 for a street or autocross car, 1.6 for a track only car.

Gt2560rMiata 02-17-2013 03:24 AM

so they are thrust bearing friendly ? Im assuming you guys looked at thurst wear while testing. was there any noticeable wear ?

emilio700 02-17-2013 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by Gt2560rMiata (Post 979810)
so they are thrust bearing friendly ? Im assuming you guys looked at thurst wear while testing. was there any noticeable wear ?

Not a criteria I looked at. If thrust bearing wear is a concern, bypass the clutch switch, don't put a weak clutch in it.

hustler 02-17-2013 10:23 AM

I can't believe it's orange.


Thanks for making this.

albumleaf 02-17-2013 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 979668)
I would suggest the 1.8 for a street or autocross car, 1.6 for a track only car.

I would think that the 1.8 would take more abuse, are these backwards?

emilio700 02-17-2013 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 979872)
I would think that the 1.8 would take more abuse, are these backwards?

Track clutch doesnt see the slipping or standing starts a street autocross car will. The higher MOI and surface area of the 1.8 kit makes more sense there.

I love a 1.6 assembly on a street driven 1.8 for the great response and faster shifting but I'm also Ok with the noise and jumpy starts.


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