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Old May 9, 2016 | 07:01 PM
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I highly doubt they would hold a real 500whp for any decent amount of time even more so if it hooked up at all. The only dude that has had any luck publically that I have seen has been that dude that has a compound turbo and we have only seen like one video of a pass on low boost. Your still dealing with a 7 inch gear.

more so if it is worth a decent amount of money why not sell it and get something that will hold or at least has a better chance of it is a minimum investment.

That and a rear end locking up after a good wheel hop/explosion doesn't sound fun. I saw a car do that once somehow but it was only a few feet out from the launch.
Old May 9, 2016 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Do you know that? People used to think normal torsens were no good past 350 and we've got people running them with drag style starts with hp numbers that start with a 4 without issue.
I think it's a tuning thing. There are people in this forum with 400hp 1UZ swaps that treat that MSM 6spd like a princess whereas people keep breaking them under the rapid torque peak of the BP.

That being said, I don't want to find out the hard way. I'd rather be ahead of the problem and have a sellable transmission and rear end and own an overbuilt car. There are literally no cons to that.
Old May 9, 2016 | 07:42 PM
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When I saw this thread pop up, I seriously thought it had to do with the bathroom debate.
Old May 9, 2016 | 08:05 PM
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Well this definitely IS the right forum for that :P
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Originally Posted by TNTUBA
When I saw this thread pop up, I seriously thought it had to do with the bathroom debate.
I still don't know which one I belong in.
Old May 10, 2016 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Do you know that? People used to think normal torsens were no good past 350 and we've got people running them with drag style starts with hp numbers that start with a 4 without issue.
Anecdotally, my Torsen didn't survive more than four runs at the drag strip. Knock on wood, my Guru torque-sensing diff appears to be bullet-proof, but they haven't made them in years.
Old May 10, 2016 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TNTUBA
When I saw this thread pop up, I seriously thought it had to do with the bathroom debate.


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Old May 10, 2016 | 07:43 PM
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Old Sep 7, 2016 | 01:42 PM
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So let me get this straight.
1. The 5 speed stock trans sucks for high power bros and breaks easy
2. The 6 speed is much stronger but still breaks at high turbo bro levels but is really cheap and plentiful to find
3. There isnt really many other options without lots of napkin drawings and trial and error

Where does the TII transmission fit in this? When does it break and why dont more people use this one?

Is there a 6 speed that actually gives a overdrive for low rpm highway speeds?
Old Sep 7, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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https://www.miataturbo.net/race-prep...riences-73618/

Start reading stop asking.
Old Sep 7, 2016 | 01:46 PM
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TII has rx7 gear ratios that aren't great for a miata. Also it doesn't hook up with the PPF so that's another headache. Someone was working on a custom bellhousing once but that was years ago.
Old Sep 7, 2016 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken
TII has rx7 gear ratios that aren't great for a miata. Also it doesn't hook up with the PPF so that's another headache. Someone was working on a custom bellhousing once but that was years ago.
Makes sense since the rotary revs to the moon. I did see a adapter plate on here for the TII.
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stop farting around and start learning
Old Sep 7, 2016 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
stop farting around and start learning
I AM LERNDING!

Old Sep 7, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by aidandj
So I should read 29 pages of posts instead of asking a simple question?
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Old Sep 7, 2016 | 02:59 PM
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theshadowconspiracy (pat) had the bell housing adapters made for the TII and are still for sale in the classifieds. It never caught on and I think he sat on some for a while. If I recall he only recently sold the last one from the first batch and was debating having a second batch made.
Old Sep 7, 2016 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy Farting
So I should read 29 pages of posts instead of asking a simple question?
Yes. Its the MT way.
Old Sep 7, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy Farting
So I should read 29 pages of posts instead of asking a simple question?
Posts like this make we want to mass ban all the n00bs.
What pisses me off the most is that this exact thing is what all the lazy spoonfed kids these days think right before they post a question asked five hundred billion times

"YOU MEAN I GOTTA PUT FORTH EFFORT??""
Old Sep 7, 2016 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
Posts like this make we want to mass ban all the n00bs.
What pisses me off the most is that this exact thing is what all the lazy spoonfed kids these days think right before they post a question asked five hundred billion times

"YOU MEAN I GOTTA PUT FORTH EFFORT??""
So posting photos of transmissions in a bathroom is ok and all the random photos and jokes and crap cluttering up posts is ok but asking a question relevant to the discussion that could be answered and was answered in 2 seconds is bad? Or is it because it is done by someone who is well known around here?
Maybe you cranky bastards who don't like "noobs" should just turn miata turbo into some kind of hand drawn punk zine only the cool non noobs can subscribe to by mail.

You don't know me! How old I am what I have built or designed or repaired or anything about my racing driving or automotive skills or experience relating to anything! You don't know the effort or experience or study I have put into learning the skills and study needed to bring me where I am.

This is the internet this is a forum for discussion which is live and continuously updated how is it bad that simple questions are repeatedly being asked? You discourage people from asking questions in new threads which will inevitably fall to the unseen old parts of the site and then when people ask questions in a relative thread already started get on them for it. I don't understand the logic of not wanting to answer a simple question and be done with it and choosing instead to spend much more time spent arguing insulting and calling names or people asking questions and clogging up threads with these responses rather than just either ignoring it and letting someone else answer it or taking the time to answer it briefly or if you know the answer off hand linking to it. How exactly does asking questions cause you any inconvenience? If you already know the answer why are you reading a thread about answers you already know?

Would you want to be treated under the assumption you are some lazy idiotic noob who isn't willing to research when asking some simple question in a subject you didn't know much about?

I am willing and wanting to learn that's why I am here asking questions.

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Old Sep 7, 2016 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken
TII has gear ratios that aren't great.
Speaking as an RX-7 guy, fixed that for you.



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