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Old 03-06-2010, 02:13 PM   #341
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Pretty much keeps anything the size of a small bird out. Its a china charger and we have a life expectancy of about 6 months for it so the screen will do its job well for that time and maybe longer if the turbo holds up. Only time will tell.
It's going to wear the engine too though. And destroy a good portion of any resale value the vehicle might have later down the road. Will you really miss the 5 or less hp a real filter will use up?
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ok,

2jz with big turbo + 2 inch cowl hood + autokonexion fast back + widebody + 8.8 rear + 15x10 6ul's + side exit exhaust.

id pay to see it
I saw it, and i got a free 2.5 exhaust just to see it! (BTW, thanks again Sean) Well, not quite free. I did bring beer as a token of my appretiation.
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Old 03-06-2010, 05:59 PM   #343
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sean, how much would you charge to drop a 1j in my miata?? i can provide the motor, tranny, ecu, and wiring harness.

lol i contacted dent sport garage over here and they insisted supra motors do not just drop in. he said he knows that it wont drop in. lol if only he could see this post. i wanted to see how much they would charge. i would do the swap myself but i dont have any time to, im gonna be pretty busy with the navy.
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sean, how much would you charge to drop a 1j in my miata?? i can provide the motor, tranny, ecu, and wiring harness.

lol i contacted dent sport garage over here and they insisted supra motors do not just drop in. he said he knows that it wont drop in. lol if only he could see this post. i wanted to see how much they would charge. i would do the swap myself but i dont have any time to, im gonna be pretty busy with the navy.
When you get done with your first tour if you wanna still do it let me know I will hook you up. Whoever told you it doesn't just drop in was lying.lol
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It's going to wear the engine too though. And destroy a good portion of any resale value the vehicle might have later down the road. Will you really miss the 5 or less hp a real filter will use up?
I gonna try and do something for it and the engine is really kind of temporary. I am not worried about the 5hp I am trying to figure something out to make it work. You also have to take into consideration that the distributor cap inter-fears with the filter location as well. When I say temporary I mean I am in the process of finding another block and head to semi build and swap in when this one goes. I will post pics and if anyone can think of a way to put a filter on please let me know. If not I will have to wait until I get standalone.
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Ok I got a lot of work done today and got some cool pics too. The wiring harness is on the engine I just need to wire the ecu to the car, the dizzy is in and timed, inter-cooler piping powder-coated, motor mounts adjusted and finally tight for the last time I hope, coil is, all extra vacuum ports cut and welded closed. Here are some pics just for fun.

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Man thats looking good!

+1 on the silicone coupler. That thing is going to cook very quickly. Might wrap it with some heat barrier wrap type stuff to help prolong the life a little?

So this head you're going to build will hopefully include a better intake manifold, yes? That'd help with the coupler problem also.

Btw, I think the I/C piping looks great! Looking forward to some good burnouts and hood flames!
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Man thats looking good!

+1 on the silicone coupler. That thing is going to cook very quickly. Might wrap it with some heat barrier wrap type stuff to help prolong the life a little?

So this head you're going to build will hopefully include a better intake manifold, yes? That'd help with the coupler problem also.

Btw, I think the I/C piping looks great! Looking forward to some good burnouts and hood flames!
Yes at some point I will spend the $400 for the intake manifold that dose not come onver the engine just the regular log style for lack of a better word. First thing is to make it run and go from there.
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Thanks man I hope you enjoy the exhaust. I want to let everyone know this guy has one of the best sleeper cars I have ever seen. It looks bone stock and has a turbo kit snuck in. Not for long with the nex exhaust but that is not that bad. You will have to post a clip with the nex exhaust when you get it done. Enjoy it, and thanks for the beer we finished it and about 30 more last night.lol
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Definitely make the manifold #1 priority as soon as car is started/drives. I can't imagine how bad that is to have it right next to the hot side.
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We just got our new tig welder today so I am going to start learning now and hopefully by the end of summer I can DIY my own the way I want it. That also means changing the intercooler piping and some other things but no big deal. This car will be full of all sorts of things that need to be fixed or re-routed or something.
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sean,
so im pretty much pissed at DSG. from a shop as reputable as them i would've thought they would be a bit nicer seeing is that its the customers money that puts their food on the table.

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If you wanted to revisit this in the winter next year we might consider it. I have no idea how to quote you on this job. We probably never could. I know the motor doesn't drop in. That would be a miracle.
well...everyone at miataturbo has witnessed a miracle !!!!!

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If you have to make motor mounts that means it doesn't "Bolt In" Just to be clear. No one in the US has more engine swap experience than we do. I can assure you. I know exactly what it's going to take
i never said it bolted in. i said it dropped in without major frontal support modification


i think you might be a little offended by this email sean, heres what happened after i showed him your thread on supraforums with the pics of it dropping in.

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That looks like a complete disaster. The frame rails have been cut and the rad support is missing. There is no subframe in the car from the way it looks. I'm guessing that the front of the car will be 2-300 lbs heavier than it was with the Miata motor. Understeer city.

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That guy is just scared to jump into something no one has done. No one said there is not weight problems I need to deal with and the a little piece of the frame was trimmed and re-welded completely so there is no problem there and the radiator support is not necessary. No where in this tread does it say that there is all gain and no loose to this swap. I would think a good custom shop would jump at a chance at doing this for someone but I guess all the shops I know are different. The offer is still open if you want it done bad enough we can do it, but you have to take the good with the bad and know that it is no longer a stock car nothing is easy anymore every time there is a problem there are two cars to sort out. I say if its what you want do it but use a 1JZ-get it is 1.5 inches shorter over all and will make 500 hp wheel easy. Good Luck.
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Dude at DSG sounds like an rectal roving poo pirate. I forget what issue of SCC i was reading, but there is a shop in AZ that says they can do anything if the check clears. Those are the guys i would want, if DSG isn't confident in they're skill level then just don't take it to them.
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The offer is still open if you want it done bad enough we can do it, but you have to take the good with the bad and know that it is no longer a stock car nothing is easy anymore every time there is a problem there are two cars to sort out. I say if its what you want do it but use a 1JZ-get it is 1.5 inches shorter over all and will make 500 hp wheel easy. Good Luck.
yeah ill just have you do it. id much rather you do it than some uptight *** who forgets to remove his tampon.

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couldnt have said it any better dude

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had to do it.

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well im really suprised that a shop that built such an amazing time trial 240rs would have the know how to **** with a simple *** 1jz swap.

for those that have not seen it, read up about it or watch this video. **** is fully built from the ground up. no corners cut except in the rear bumper lol

YouTube - DSG 240RS Maxi at NHIS 07.08.07

im a lil tired right now, is the 1jzgtte and 1jzget the same thing? ive never heard of the get.

im not really looking for anything thats gonna outhandle or perform better than a louts 7 or something. i just wanna have something that people only dream about. maybe make it into my favorite car magazines someday with something other than a fully built civic or nsx.

i dont need their cocky *** attitude either. **** them. DSG treats this **** like its finding the cure for aids or something. this is a hobby its supposed to be fun. idk y the **** they have to have a **** poor attitude for. maybe they spend all their time under the hood so much that they dont have any time to remove their dirty ******* tampons. ill chill out now


id much rather have you do it anyway, at least you know wtf you're doing when it comes to THIS swap, and are much much less of a pus filled ---- about it as well. (you arent at all.)

matter of fact, you're a cool *** dude. cheers on the originality, the will power, and having fun ******* around under the hood. this is what modding is all about

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couldnt have said it any better dude
I'm just saying, they shouldn't act like they're good **** when they just do 240's. If they would take it, they would probably want money up front, then push it to the back and work on it for 1 hour a week. Then half *** it, because they really dont want to do it, but they wont man up and say they don't want to / can't do it. After weeks of waiting you would end up with a super half *** car because someone didn't love it. Or, you would get tired of waiting, and have to pull the half-assed half complete car, Then you would have to pull it and do it yourself or have sean do it. Just like every other "AWESOME" non miata shop i have seen. Thats why i just do **** myself, no one else touches my car. (Accept for body work.) I am lucky to live near corky's shop now so i know i have someone i could trust with my car if i need to. /end rant
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I still have that copy of SCC on my "thinking room" rack, the one where he beats Andreas Wirth in a really nice S2000 at some Time Attack.

I would have thought they'd be more open to projects...he must have got the wrong idea of your impressions of the work it would take. I can only imagine a shop like that gets all kinds of interest from dummies that don't have a clue...it's got to be hard to weed out the guys that will really get it done.

What you and I consider "drop in" means something different to the Honduh crowd. I consider an FE3 a drop-in after seeing it only involves two motor mount plates with 6 holes in them. Once you start hacking at chassis I don't consider it a drop-in anymore.


Oh well...I love the build, and you've got support here.
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I wouldn't say its a drop in but the mounts are not hard to make and you I could deffinatly do things different the second time around and make improvements. I don't see how someone can build full out custom race cars but can't do an engine swap maybe they only want to work on 240's and if they have the customer base for it let them. You also have to take into consideration that most of the time if you walk into a shop anywhere and you tell them you would like to put a 2JZ in a miata they most likely will think you smoked to much of something that day. Take it with a grain of salt and keep looking. There are place out there that would love to do this you just have to find them. Also know if you are paying someone to do it it is not going to be cheap.
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I still have that copy of SCC on my "thinking room" rack, the one where he beats Andreas Wirth in a really nice S2000 at some Time Attack.

I would have thought they'd be more open to projects...he must have got the wrong idea of your impressions of the work it would take. I can only imagine a shop like that gets all kinds of interest from dummies that don't have a clue...it's got to be hard to weed out the guys that will really get it done.

What you and I consider "drop in" means something different to the Honduh crowd. I consider an FE3 a drop-in after seeing it only involves two motor mount plates with 6 holes in them. Once you start hacking at chassis I don't consider it a drop-in anymore.


Oh well...I love the build, and you've got support here.
That s2000 was on street tires and the 240 wasn't. I always thought that write up was semi gay, but the green wheels did rock.
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