Boosting on a Budget: Greddy Kit Done *Right*
07-14-2015, 12:30 AM
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You probably won't be able to notice the difference, but honestly I would use the JDM Sport one. Fins inside look MUCH better.
Both suck but both should do the job.
Both suck but both should do the job.
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07-14-2015, 02:53 AM
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Oh I just saw these other comments. Installed the Mishi IC and the car actually blew up. Like, literally just burst into flames. It was just that bad of a unit I guess.
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07-14-2015, 07:28 AM
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wtf. are the fins not even louvered like the JDM one?
both are poor, but I'd stick with the delta core tube&fin beat to hell IC over the non-IC.
Vlad this might flow better inside, but I'd rather have 5psi of pressure drop and 80% efficiency than no pressure loss from air passing through a pipe with slots and 10% efficiency.
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07-14-2015, 01:01 PM
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we *think* we are idealists. But here we are, telling him he bought the wrong eBay intercooler and suggesting he should have bought a DIFFERENT eBay intercooler. Just ONE of us (you, sean, in post #135) quietly suggested that he get a true, quality, name-brand intercooler, and nobody recognized it.
We are mf'in cheapskates.
We are mf'in cheapskates.
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07-14-2015, 01:27 PM
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we *think* we are idealists. But here we are, telling him he bought the wrong eBay intercooler and suggesting he should have bought a DIFFERENT eBay intercooler. Just ONE of us (you, sean, in post #135) quietly suggested that he get a true, quality, name-brand intercooler, and nobody recognized it.
We are mf'in cheapskates.
We are mf'in cheapskates.
We are cheap *** idealists
Also, as Vlad pointed out, very little(if any?) empirical data exist on any of these egay coolers. Even the one we tout is based on anecdote from visual appearance.
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07-16-2015, 08:24 AM
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Way back, JasonC swapped out his AVO barNplate for a TDR tube/fin.
I picked up an eBay (EMUSA) delta fin (thought Brainy got the same design) at that time for improved exchanger flow (I run AC). The core/tube ends look like typicalsteve's eBay/JDMsport on the end, but just past the entry you can see the fins have vertical, angled slits that dip into the air flow. I wonder if the JDMSport is not the same- you just can't see it in the photo. 
Results:
- spoolup, no change
- topend, slight discernible advantage to AVO (~2%, could be meas error, AEMlog acceleration function)
- temp rise during a 2nd gear run: 4°C vs. 6°C, advantage AVO i/c, BUT the temps drop back down more quickly with the TDR. The AVO appears to have more thermal mass but heatsoak, the TDR airflow cools it down quick. Peak temps on the track, unknown.
-Pressure loss:
TDR is better by 0 to 0.5 psi
2.5 psi pressure loss at 10 psi of manifold pressure, est 240 whp
- spoolup, no change
- topend, slight discernible advantage to AVO (~2%, could be meas error, AEMlog acceleration function)
- temp rise during a 2nd gear run: 4°C vs. 6°C, advantage AVO i/c, BUT the temps drop back down more quickly with the TDR. The AVO appears to have more thermal mass but heatsoak, the TDR airflow cools it down quick. Peak temps on the track, unknown.
-Pressure loss:
TDR is better by 0 to 0.5 psi
2.5 psi pressure loss at 10 psi of manifold pressure, est 240 whp
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07-17-2015, 01:25 PM
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m2cupcar, thanks for the detailed response! I will be doing testing on the intercooler this weekend.
My 180 tstat and gasket from BEGI two days ago. My box of seals, gaskets, and hoses came from Rosenthal yesterday. I will finally be able to get this clutch in- Woo!
I installed these guys last night. The car actually doesn't stop at all now. Like, I'll press on the brakes and nothing happens. Been having to use my e-brake for now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm blaming the holes in the rotors for the stopping issue. And they look terrible. So
My 180 tstat and gasket from BEGI two days ago. My box of seals, gaskets, and hoses came from Rosenthal yesterday. I will finally be able to get this clutch in- Woo!
I installed these guys last night. The car actually doesn't stop at all now. Like, I'll press on the brakes and nothing happens. Been having to use my e-brake for now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm blaming the holes in the rotors for the stopping issue. And they look terrible. So
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