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Old 12-02-2017, 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Savington
Most of the colors should match, but not every DB37 has every wire. 01-05s won't have a separate VVT wire, for instance. The white/black twisted pair is CANH/CANL, white is H, black is L.

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Appreciate it. So on mine if there isn't a brown wire for example my harness isn't setup for launch control?
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Can’t help you on the wiring schematics, but damn you have made progress.
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Reverant sent me the link to the instructions. Ill just post them here in case someone else needs them down the road. It has the included column with the wire colors to match their function. It is year specific for a 94-95 1.8.

https://www.mslabs.gr/instructions_b...7_9495_140.pdf
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Wiring almost done. Getting close to being able to turn this bitch over. Drilled two holes next to the A/C lines for some of my sensor wires and the vacuum line.



Also ended up using the original holes for the cruise control and my old speedo cable for the rest of the wires.





Ended up putting my fuel pressure sensor here using an inline sensor adapter.



Also put this together tonight. This is the only thing that isn't wired in yet. Need to figure out what Im going to put to each switch. For sure the dash will be wired to a momentary switch to change screens and clear warnings. Will also do launch control, a cool suit, and I guess Ill see what else I can come up with. Its taped for now...Ill glue it in later.





Need to do a once over of everything and make sure the connections are snug. After Im reasonably sure they are Ill put fluids in and start figuring out the MS setup so I can try and start the car. Getting close...just want to make sure I don't miss anything and **** **** up.
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I may take you up on the the flange. Worst case I can have the performance shop here just fab a custom DP for this setup as I have it. Having the flange will make that easier. The price of putting full custom **** on a car. I already passed the word on to David at KMiata that with the transmission swap your DP isn't a direct bolt on. He had inquiries on the matter. I don't think much modification will be required plus I have to modify the second piece anyways to make it clear the transmission mount. I appreciate it. Ill send you the email.
I was one of David's inquiries.

Here's what I had to do to get my pipe to fit between the footwell and 6 speed Miata trans. This is before I took it to the shop and out it in our press to flatten it even more, downstream of the bung. Too bad I already had it ceramic coated inside and out....




Even with it like that and beating the corner by the gas pedal in, I still only have an 1/8" or so on each side of the DP where it clears the trans and footwell.

Once I nuke this 6 speed, I'll have a new DP custom fabbed to fit around the 5 or 6 speed BMW trans and provide additional clearance.
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Originally Posted by ooja3k
I was one of David's inquiries.

Here's what I had to do to get my pipe to fit between the footwell and 6 speed Miata trans. This is before I took it to the shop and out it in our press to flatten it even more, downstream of the bung. Too bad I already had it ceramic coated inside and out....




Even with it like that and beating the corner by the gas pedal in, I still only have an 1/8" or so on each side of the DP where it clears the trans and footwell.

Once I nuke this 6 speed, I'll have a new DP custom fabbed to fit around the 5 or 6 speed BMW trans and provide additional clearance.
That seems super odd to have to bash the downpipe that much. I mean mine would have need a little firewall mod with a stock transmission but I wouldn't have had to bash the DP in like that. Andrew is sending me a flange so I might just have the shop build me a DP to full 3 in exhaust so its clean all the way back. I hate having haggard up **** just to make things fit. That way I can sell the DP if needed since I haven't modified it. Do you have pictures of your turbo and DP installed?
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I'll be posting more pics in the build thread in the next couple days, I'll post a couple here as well. Clearance is definitely terrible. Andrew did say that few footwell are the same and he had heard of another instance similar to mine.
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Does the FM kit or MKturbo kit have the same 50/50 clearance issues? Kind of disappointing from the most expensive manifold downpipe kit out there.
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Originally Posted by thumpetto007
Does the FM kit or MKturbo kit have the same 50/50 clearance issues? Kind of disappointing from the most expensive manifold downpipe kit out there.
It's probably asking a bit much to expect Savington to have designed his downpipe to fit with a not-yet-released-at-the-time BMW transmission swap from a different vendor.

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Totally agreed!

Moving forward, it might make sense for the two companies to test fit each other's stuff as there's likely going to be some cross over in customers and it would make everyone's life better.

You can't account for every little thing the end user does though...
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Oh, sorry, i thought there were clearance issues with mazda oem transmissions... carry on!
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Originally Posted by thumpetto007
Does the FM kit or MKturbo kit have the same 50/50 clearance issues? Kind of disappointing from the most expensive manifold downpipe kit out there.
More like 3 in 50, and one of those unverifiable due to the transmission variable. Not a great rate, but hardly the 50/50 you claim. No surprise coming from you, though - you seem to have a knack for highly negative exaggerations.
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It's hard to be positive with this community, every single vendor I purchase from has sent me defective, or incorrect parts at least twice. (TSE, 949, V8 Roadster, Goodwin, FM, miata roadster, MSlabs)

I'm the village idiot, pessimist.

I dont have access to your sales and customer documents, I just threw the 50/50 out there, my mistake.

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The transmission isn't the point of contact on this one. That part clears fine all the way to the rear mount, which was expected.

This trans is not appreciably wider than the 6 speed just looking at it. But maybe my eyecrometer isn't properly calibrated.

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I want to point out, as I mentioned to a few of us at MRLS, I always try to put the downpipe as close to the engine/transmission as possible, touching even. I am thinking of adding bracket to my downpipe to bolt where the stock one bolts on to the bell housing. I always want to put it 1/2 way in between, and get a rattle, then I remember I need to move it as close to the engine as possible. Not that this will help Tony's situation.
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Im not making a big stink of it since my car is like the opposite of stock and I like any reasonable individual understand that when you modify the **** out of things what once was a bolt on may no longer be that way. There is no way for Andrew to account for all the changes I've made to the car and I would never hold him to that. If I had a stock transmission would it fit?...maybe...we will never know so I'm not going to say yes or no on that. As it sits with a TSE kit and BMW transmission on my car the DP is not a bolt on. Thats no ones fault or truthfully anything to make a big ******* stink about with him directly. I wish it was a bolt on--would save me some time and money but whatever. That being said it is reasonable to think if the consensus is that his kit is the best (TBD in my situation) and people are likely to be shooting for high HP with his kit that the BMW transmission option may become a more regular occurrence on cars with his kit. I would never expect this because frankly it isn't anyones responsibility but my own to make this **** fit but it would have been nice to get a little vendor support/offer of assistance on this one as Im sure this will come up again on other cars as people build them. Either way the car will get a DP that fits be it modifying this one or just having the local shop fabricate a new one.
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Darrell (miataman04). Though your car also had issues going past 21 if I remember correct, right?
I'm way late on this, I was using denso coils and we were seeing issues at 26psi. Until I pulled the turbo I was having no issue at 24psi gaped a stock 37 and running whatever FM sent me with the kit. (forgive me lack of knowledge its been a while)
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