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Old 01-27-2015, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by EO2K
It should have 2 outlets, its just a matter of plumbing it up. I'll take a look at mine in the garage tonight. As I understand it, single circuit master cylinders have not be legal in the US on new cars since 1967
My understanding is that the ABS masters only have one outlet on the front which goes to the ABS module, whereas non-ABS cars have two (one to each front wheel). The wilwood kit sold by 949 has only one and includes a tee for fitting to non-ABS cars.

Aidan, reading the info in your link now.
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Props for finding and sharing it.

But it's destroying my brain. I feel like I have to take notes, but that also some stuff doesn't match up. He lists a lower ratio for the '90-'00 booster than for the MSM (which apparently is a different booster than the Sport booster... makes sense, firmer brake pedal) but he lists a higher line pressure for a given pedal pressure.
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Originally Posted by turbofan
Props for finding and sharing it.

But it's destroying my brain. I feel like I have to take notes, but that also some stuff doesn't match up. He lists a lower ratio for the '90-'00 booster than for the MSM (which apparently is a different booster than the Sport booster... makes sense, firmer brake pedal) but he lists a higher line pressure for a given pedal pressure.
Different master cylinder sizes for '90-'00, same booster for MSM and sport non-abs but different masters between '00 and MSM
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OK I see that now, thanks for helping clarify that.

I still don't know what to put on my car, lol. I want to read that thread but... I'm pretty sure 9 pages of a conversation like that will take me a long, long time. I'll try.
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I don't think I made it past the first page. Just ran into it the other day and saved it as reference for sizing.
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You have a prop valve.

Leave 10ae **** alone, but install prop valve.

Leave MSM master/booster on shelf until car runs. Decide if you can feel any difference, then install MSM master/booster if you must.

Priority list should look something like this:

1. finish parting MSM
2. clean garage
3. get engine to CSTG
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10000000000. decide on final master/booster setup

You had this problem Monday. As you know, there is a LOT left to do to finish the MSM part out, and get your 10ae "finished". While I handle the engine dangling in the air, poking and proding at the wiring harness probably shouldn't of been your priority.

Focus, you must learn focus.
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LOL I was just trying to break stuff down, make the most of our time. At that point I thought we were still going to try to cut more of the car up. Wish I had just watched what you were doing most of the time though. Cuz now I still don't know how to pull the engine

Thanks again for the input all. I will go with plan Josh.
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Lololol. ADD is awesome! The other day I spent 40 minutes tightening a t-bolt clamp because I couldn't find my racheting 10mm box wrench, which led to cleaning/searching my car, then my garage, then my room, finally tightened the clamp an hour later.

Also pulling is the easy part, lift it up and remove anything in your way/still connected to it. Putting it back in is harder.
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Your ADD works differently than mine.

I would have tried to tighten the clamp, looked for the tool, looked in the car, made more of a mess, look around in the garage while leaving my phone on the shelf to dig through some stuff, look in the guest room where there are car parts, then I can't find my phone, then I decide to hell with the wrench I'll just finish it using the open end, then I go back and realize I had the clamp in my hand when I started searching for the wrench and now I've lost it too

#thatretardedlife
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Originally Posted by turbofan
Your ADD works differently than mine.

I would have tried to tighten the clamp, looked for the tool, looked in the car, made more of a mess, look around in the garage while leaving my phone on the shelf to dig through some stuff, look in the guest room where there are car parts, then I can't find my phone, then I decide to hell with the wrench I'll just finish it using the open end, then I go back and realize I had the clamp in my hand when I started searching for the wrench and now I've lost it too

#thatretardedlife
When I say clean I don't actually mean that, I mean remove everything from the car, then put everything from the garage in my room, etc, etc. I still didn't find the wrench either. And of course 10mm is the one that I use all the freaking time. I think I left it in the engine bay when I went for a drive.
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I've lost many, many tools that way.
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ABS masters have 2 outlets, one front, one rear. The front goes to the prop valve and then to the ABS unit, with one line for each front brake coming off the ABS unit.

Non-ABS masters have 3 outlets. One goes to rear, one goes straight to driver front brake, the other goes to prop valve then to passenger front brake.

MSM booster plus 929 1" master is what you want. But yes, it can wait. That said, if you want to replace major brake hard lines, it's much much easier to do it with the motor out.

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Originally Posted by aidandj
When I say clean I don't actually mean that, I mean remove everything from the car, then put everything from the garage in my room, etc, etc. I still didn't find the wrench either. And of course 10mm is the one that I use all the freaking time. I think I left it in the engine bay when I went for a drive.
My rule of thumb is that whenever I spend more than 2 minutes looking for a tool I declare clean up time, stop working on whatever it is I'm doing, and spend the next 5-10 minutes picking up tools and putting them away. Usually that finds it.

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I like that. I like that very much. And thanks for the input on the masters and boosters.
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Originally Posted by codrus
My rule of thumb is that whenever I spend more than 2 minutes looking for a tool I declare clean up time, stop working on whatever it is I'm doing, and spend the next 5-10 minutes picking up tools and putting them away. Usually that finds it.

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Yeah my issue was that I did that for my whole house and I couldn't find it lol.
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Love the progress. Josh is a beast! Most garrets can swap housings depending on their AR. The 2860 especially so.
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Less posting,more working!!!
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I can post while I'm at work can't work on my car while I'm at work.
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Just move the car to one of the service bays and get two things done at same time.
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fwiw, that compressor cover doesnt mean its a 2560. they sell those for use with a gt28 upgrade (2860 or 2871r) to fit something like an oem nissan turbo.


The TiAL turbo housing you have was only offered for the larger t28 turbine wheel and not a smaller t25 turbine wheel.

You can check the tag on your turbo and look up the part number online.
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