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matrussell122 03-02-2018 12:22 AM

You could clea rance the back of the fan with a 2" sanding drum on a die grinder if you have enough material in the fan. That's what I did with the volvo fan. I'm pretty sure there is a flow equation for space between the fan and radiator but that is probably way more in depth than we need to go.

patsmx5 03-02-2018 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by matrussell122 (Post 1469546)
...I'm pretty sure there is a flow equation for space between the fan and radiator but that is probably way more in depth than we need to go.

My testing showed 3/4" is the sweet spot, less is bad, more only helps a bit.

psyber_0ptix 03-02-2018 05:04 AM

That's good info and I'll have to measure with the standoff is on the mounts provided but I think Soviet even had clearance issues mounting it flush. Maybe this is what merits using a smaller diameter fan but I can't justify purchasing third fan when I have to kicking around collecting dust since nobody buys used parts around here (where I live).

perhaps I need to get over my laziness for shipping and post them up here on this site

m2cupcar 03-02-2018 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by patsmx5 (Post 1469549)
My testing showed 3/4" is the sweet spot, less is bad, more only helps a bit.

Measured from the rad face to foremost blade surface? fwiw- Spal makes fan gaskets that work as an insulator and spacer. I'm using one on my 16" Spal mounted to the rad face.

http://fe3miata.com/site/wp-content/...-gasket-1p.jpg

psyber_0ptix 03-02-2018 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 1469579)
Measured from the rad face to foremost blade surface? fwiw- Spal makes fan gaskets that work as an insulator and spacer. I'm using one on my 16" Spal mounted to the rad face.

http://fe3miata.com/site/wp-content/...-gasket-1p.jpg


unfortunately that gasket is made only for the 16in

m2cupcar 03-02-2018 11:53 AM

doh- that sucks. You could diy with some locking edge trim?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...fc95ff0394.jpg

psyber_0ptix 03-02-2018 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by m2cupcar (Post 1469618)

That's what they use on the FM kit. Thanks for the link !



Which crossflow radiator are you using?

matrussell122 03-02-2018 02:44 PM

Thats pretty much the same stuff I used too.

These guys have a lot of options too for just about everything.

https://www.mcmaster.com/#bulb-seals/=1bsqz22

m2cupcar 03-02-2018 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1469645)
Which crossflow radiator are you using?

It's a no-name circle track single pass cross flow for a Ford (smallest width- 22") that I bolted a Mercedes 123 diesel oil cooler too. The assembly is just narrow enough to fit in the Miata. The bottom sits about an inch lower than the stock rad. I did have to cut a notch in the hood rib for the cap so the hood would shut. 16" Spal is a good fit for the square rad and the inlet/outlet works for Mazda engines using a coolant reroute coming back on the intake side.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1422898230

psyber_0ptix 03-06-2018 08:09 PM

So shout out matrussell122 for sending me a a couple step files including his Mishimoto radiator file so I could reference the A/C fan mount bosses and compare. I don't have a carpenters square so I'm just guessing off tape measure. Matt's help is appreciated.

I rough modeled the dimensions of the Trackspeed radiator with it's 3" thickness and effective areas of interest and plopped the fan bracket on. In it's current position recessed 0.25" from the surface of the mounting boss, it will place the fan at 0.55" from the fins. I think this is as good as I can get and will have to test fit to see if further shimming is required for clearance to the sway bar.



https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d6df356b3c.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...15b0391962.jpg

psyber_0ptix 03-06-2018 08:11 PM

Made a mock up with Lexan. Fan mount hole positions are spot on and it fits the radiator perfectly. I'll have to fashion the mounts to the threaded bosses on the radiator, probably some angle or sheet metal drilled out. Will attempt to make the part and shim with a 0.25" spacer toward the fins and check clearance to sway.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...892355080c.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ef3b28e78d.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d63b180c98.jpg

psyber_0ptix 03-06-2018 08:16 PM

The spal 14" has flat spots on the fan housing (like most slim fans) which nest perfectly between the top and bottom plates of the trackspeed radiator https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f1b09a09e7.jpg

matrussell122 03-12-2018 12:02 PM

Looking good :bigtu:

matrussell122 03-13-2018 03:58 PM

I keep coming back to this thread to look at that radiator. If you can move your fan to the far left side i bet you could mount your oil cooler on the right side and still have some spare room. Ill send you the oil cooler model and bracket i came up with a while ago.

psyber_0ptix 03-13-2018 04:14 PM

Thanks, I'll take a look at the files, however without passenger side fan mounts, and how mich closer it is to the sway bar, I'm uncertain if I can get a 25row to fit.

I finally committed to taking A/C out so I was hoping I could squeeze the cooler where the condenser once sat. I believe it might conflict with the intercooler though.

Preliminary ideas:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...da518de410.jpgNotched the rear to allow the core to breath but kept some of the vertical lip for beam stiffness.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5f5f4b119f.jpgFlipped the top bracket to the front, will likely utilize existing threaded holes. I think for the stock hood latch I do not have.



Please don't mind the mess, I've done something stupid and am in the process of POR15ing the bay.

ryansmoneypit 03-13-2018 04:44 PM

psyber, ive got something im working on...right up your alley i think. totally unrelated to the last few posts..

psyber_0ptix 03-13-2018 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1471521)
psyber, ive got something im working on...right up your alley i think. totally unrelated to the last few posts..


Oh snap

psyber_0ptix 03-22-2018 09:28 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...5cc92c4098.jpg

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...33619ef5d4.jpg



Place holder

psyber_0ptix 03-24-2018 10:26 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ba78d97635.jpgOverkill mounts for 14" fan

miataman04 03-26-2018 10:16 AM

Sell me the extra master lol


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