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Old 12-09-2020, 04:02 PM
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Did I miss something? Is Texas contesting the election now? That would be wonderful.
Yes. TX is suing PA, GA, WI, and MN. I believe LA filed a similar one. 17 other States have signed onto the TX lawsuit so far.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketP...h%20Tables.pdf

You won't hear about it, because Big Tech can't allow Trump to take his rightful place.

BILL OF COMPLAINT

Our Country stands at an important crossroads. Either the Constitution matters and must be followed, even when some officials consider it inconvenient or out of date, or it is simply a piece of parchment on display at the National Archives. We ask the Court to choose the former.

Lawful elections are at the heart of our constitutional democracy. The public, and indeed the candidates themselves, have a compelling interest in ensuring that the selection of a President is legitimate. If that trust is lost, the American Experiment will founder. A dark cloud hangs over the 2020 Presidential election.

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meanwhile:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncn...UpafbDp0ObWih0

TECH NEWS

U.S. government calls for breakup of Facebook

The Federal Trade Commission sued to break up Facebook on Wednesday, asking a federal court to force the sell-off of assets such as Instagram and WhatsApp.
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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX
HRC made the assumption she had the rust belt states on lock becuz #Democrat

Gore made a similar assumption but to a greater extent becuz #Homestate

Key strategic mistakes by both candidates
Biden didn't campaign because he was relying on cheating. He underperformed everywhere except key cities in key states where the results are highly questionable. But we aren't allowed to double check on these things. I've said too much...
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Originally Posted by Braineack
Size doesn't matter; you of all people should know that. You need to understand Federalism. The 13 states created the federal government. When they did this, they decided that representation in the federal government should assigned PER STATE, not per individual.
That is absolutely false.

Article I, Section 2 of the constitution specifies that each state's representation within the House of Representatives shall be proportional to the number of individuals residing in that state.

Article II, Section 1, then goes on to specify that the number of Electors from each state shall be equal to the number of Senators and Representatives to which that state is entitled in the Congress.


The constitution very clearly and unambiguously structures the Federal government such that each state's representation, both in the Congress and in the choosing of the President, is proportionate to the number of individuals residing within that state.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
That is absolutely false.

Article I, Section 2 of the constitution specifies that each state's representation within the House of Representatives shall be proportional to the number of individuals residing in that state.

Article II, Section 1, then goes on to specify that the number of Electors from each state shall be equal to the number of Senators and Representatives to which that state is entitled in the Congress.


The constitution very clearly and unambiguously structures the Federal government such that each state's representation, both in the Congress and in the choosing of the President, is proportionate to the number of individuals residing within that state.
The context was popular vote. And why quoting the 5m number was pointless. I understand how the legislative branch works

Thanks.


Tell me more about why fbi finally admitted to having seth Rich's laptop?
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Originally Posted by Braineack
google: contested presidential elections
Interestingly, doing precisely that invalidates another false claim you made a few posts ago. Specifically, the claim that "Safe Harbor deadline is not in the Constitution; only inauguration day."

Well, it actually is. And googling "contested presidential elections" explains why.

The first result that comes up in that search is the 1876 election. And as a direct result of that debacle, Congress passed the Electoral Count Act of 1887. This act specifies the date on which Electors are to be chosen by the States, and the date on which the Electors are to cast their votes, as well as creating the Safe Harbor deadline (3 U.S.C. § 5)

How is any of that "in the constitution" as you say? Simple, Article II, Section 1:

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

The constitution specifically enumerated that power to Congress, and therefore, Congress' exercise of that power is specifically constitutional.
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Interestingly, doing precisely that invalidates another false claim you made a few posts ago. Specifically, the claim that "Safe Harbor deadline is not in the Constitution; only inauguration day."

Well, it actually is. And googling "contested presidential elections" explains why.

The first result that comes up in that search is the 1876 election. And as a direct result of that debacle, Congress passed the Electoral Count Act of 1887. This act specifies the date on which Electors are to be chosen by the States, and the date on which the Electors are to cast their votes, as well as creating the Safe Harbor deadline (3 U.S.C. § 5)

How is any of that "in the constitution" as you say? Simple, Article II, Section 1:

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

The constitution specifically enumerated that power to Congress, and therefore, Congress' exercise of that power is specifically constitutional.

And has a president ever been determined after that date?

Has a president ever been inaugurated after jan 20?

If you answered yes and no respectfully, why is youtube using this date as a benchmark?


Dec 14 is the date youre quoting, btw.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
The context was popular vote. And why quoting the 5m number was pointless. I understand how the legislative branch works
The context was representation in the electing of a President. You claimed that the representation was per state, not per individual. That's incorrect, because the weight of each state's representation is directly proportional to the number of individuals within that state.

It's neither a popular vote, nor a "PER STATE" vote (quoting you directly), but rather a hybrid of the two. Within each state, electors are chosen by popular vote.

Frankly, I dislike the "winner take all" system of selecting Electors. It's led directly to the situation we find ourselves in today, where people fear that they have no choice but to vote for Clown A, in order to prevent Clown B from winning.

The Single Transferable Vote system would be much preferred, in my opinion. And there's nothing in the Constitution which specifies that States must nominate their electors in one specific way.


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Tell me more about why fbi finally admitted to having seth Rich's laptop?
Because they feel confident that Seth Rich was in possession of information which would lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton, and now that she's not a candidate for President, it's safe to reveal this.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
No need to mock Trump for exercising his constipational right to block the election outcome.
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baseless.





Strange, you'd think CNN would have 1 story on Tony Bobulinski.
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Back in Oct CNN telling us this story was baseless.



now:


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Back in OCT NPR telling us this story was baseless:



now:

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Back in Oct, Politico was telling us this story was baseless.




now:




they even used the same picture for the cover...
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Back in Oct CBS said this story was baseless.






now:

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back in Oct, PBS Newshour said this story was baseless:





now:

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Back in whenever, NYT told us this story was baseless:




now:
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MSNBC then:





MSNBC now:

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more nbc:






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FACT CHECK THEN:





FACT CHECK NOW:

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