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From: Chicago. (The less-murder part.)
SF now on the hook for 5.4million in student tuition:
SF reaches deal for free tuition at City College - SFGate
i wonder why it's so dammed expensive out there...
SF reaches deal for free tuition at City College - SFGate
i wonder why it's so dammed expensive out there...
Dear God, that's nearly 0.006% of the whole city budget! They'll go bankrupt!
EDIT: Oh, wait... The economy of the Bay Area is thriving, and has proven to be nearly immune to things which worry those in the southeast, like recessions, housing bubbles, low-wage manufacturing jobs being off-shored, etc. Silly me.
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The businessman’s tool is values; the bureaucrat’s tool is fear.
Originally Posted by triplebad++
By the same theory hillary would have done the same job seeing that he accused her of wanting to appoint the same people, no?
Evading the difference between production and looting, they called the businessman a robber. Evading the difference between freedom and compulsion, they called him a slave driver. Evading the difference between reward and terror, they called him an exploiter. Evading the difference between pay checks and guns, they called him an autocrat. Evading the difference between trade and force, they called him a tyrant. The most crucial issue they had to evade was the difference between the earned and the unearned.
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Berkeley:
Several op-eds in The Daily Californian, the independent student newspaper at UC Berkeley, defended the violence and riots that occurred in response to the MILO event that was scheduled to occur last week.
Nisa Dang, an alumnus of UC Berkeley, wrote that she believed folks who were condemning the violence were speaking from a place of “privilege.”
Current UC Berkeley student, Josh Hardman, dismissed the argument that the violence was exclusively perpetrated by “outside agitators,” claiming that the UCB community must take ownership for what occurred on their campus last week.
Nisa Dang, an alumnus of UC Berkeley, wrote that she believed folks who were condemning the violence were speaking from a place of “privilege.”
To people with platforms who decide when a protest should and should not be violent: You speak from a place of immense privilege. As I recently wrote in a tirade against this brand of idiocy, asking people to maintain peaceful dialogue with those who legitimately do not think their lives matter is a violent act. Putting #LoveTrumpsHate at the end of a post is a privilege that many of you take advantage of, especially when there are those of us who know that our grandparents and parents survived hate only through the grace of violent action. No offense.
Before taking on the core issue of whether violence is legitimate, the employment of the term “outside agitator” to distance UC Berkeley students from the “violence” of the protest must be grappled with. On a fundamental level, the distinction between the actions of students and “outsiders” is incongruous with the ethos of a public university and disrespectful to the wider community in which Berkeley is (and should be more) situated. It is patronising and privileged for UC Berkeley students to claim ownership over UC Berkeley and its affairs. We have no right to exclude others from this process.
Hardman goes onto to justify the violence, claiming that there needs to be room in the resistance movement for “a plurality of experiences and tactics.”Poignantly — given that the locus of the resistance was the Martin Luther King Jr. building — King himself was a critic of this smear, arguing that we cannot “afford to live with the narrow, provincial ‘outside agitator’ idea,” adding that “anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.” King’s comments attest to the longevity of the term and also highlights the need for our movements to be inclusive of a plurality of experiences and tactics.
Towards the end of his piece, Hardman became more explicit in his defense of the violence and riots that took place on campus last week.The key question now remains: Was the “violence” Wednesday night justified? I am of the opinion that it was the plurality of tactics employed Wednesday evening that contributed to the success of the cancellation of the talk. I merely wish to offer some thoughts in hope of reframing the dominant narrative. I urge you to consider whether damaging the windows of places like banks and the Amazon student store constitutes “violence” — and, if so, what weight this “violence” carries in the context of the symbolic, structural and actual violence that is proposed, condoned and actioned by the likes of Milo Yiannopoulos and his supporters.
Hardman goes onto to justify the violence, claiming that there needs to be room in the resistance movement for “a plurality of experiences and tactics.”Poignantly — given that the locus of the resistance was the Martin Luther King Jr. building — King himself was a critic of this smear, arguing that we cannot “afford to live with the narrow, provincial ‘outside agitator’ idea,” adding that “anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds.” King’s comments attest to the longevity of the term and also highlights the need for our movements to be inclusive of a plurality of experiences and tactics.
Towards the end of his piece, Hardman became more explicit in his defense of the violence and riots that took place on campus last week.The key question now remains: Was the “violence” Wednesday night justified? I am of the opinion that it was the plurality of tactics employed Wednesday evening that contributed to the success of the cancellation of the talk. I merely wish to offer some thoughts in hope of reframing the dominant narrative. I urge you to consider whether damaging the windows of places like banks and the Amazon student store constitutes “violence” — and, if so, what weight this “violence” carries in the context of the symbolic, structural and actual violence that is proposed, condoned and actioned by the likes of Milo Yiannopoulos and his supporters.
Last week’s protest featured “Black Bloc” tactics employed by mask-wearing protesters dressed head-to-toe in dark clothing and using crude weapons to vandalize property.
While officers largely stood to the side, about 150 people labeled “agitators” by Berkeley police used metal rods, Molotov cocktails and commercial-grade fireworks to overwhelm police and smash bank branch and storefront windows in downtown Berkeley.
They also lit raging fires in a rampage that caused more than $100,000 damage while protesting the scheduled appearance of right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos on Feb. 1, whose event was canceled while he was evacuated from campus in a bullet-proof jacket.
Only one person was arrested in the mayhem that injured six people – prompting criticism of training for campus police at the entire University of California system that emphasizes officer restraint and patience during protests in the name of protecting students’ free speech rights.
“The UC ‘hands-off’ approach was to the citizens’ detriment and the officers’ detriment in this situation,” said John Bakhit, a lawyer for the union representing about 400 of the system’s police officers.
Officers should have been given more discretion to prevent the vandalism and violence and make arrests at the Berkeley protest, Bakhit said.
“The frustrating thing for the police officers is that they weren’t allowed to do their jobs,” he said.
Berkeley Police Sgt. Sabrina Reich defended the response, saying officers feared increased violence and more serious injuries if the violence escalated accompanied by a heavier-handed police response. Investigators are reviewing extensive video taken during the protest and more arrests are possible, she said.
Several officers did fire paint-ball like guns to mark rioters for detention and their possible arrest, she said. But if officers had made more arrests at the scene, up to three officers would have had to give up crowd control duty to escort each suspected rioter to jail, Reich said.
While officers largely stood to the side, about 150 people labeled “agitators” by Berkeley police used metal rods, Molotov cocktails and commercial-grade fireworks to overwhelm police and smash bank branch and storefront windows in downtown Berkeley.
They also lit raging fires in a rampage that caused more than $100,000 damage while protesting the scheduled appearance of right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos on Feb. 1, whose event was canceled while he was evacuated from campus in a bullet-proof jacket.
Only one person was arrested in the mayhem that injured six people – prompting criticism of training for campus police at the entire University of California system that emphasizes officer restraint and patience during protests in the name of protecting students’ free speech rights.
“The UC ‘hands-off’ approach was to the citizens’ detriment and the officers’ detriment in this situation,” said John Bakhit, a lawyer for the union representing about 400 of the system’s police officers.
Officers should have been given more discretion to prevent the vandalism and violence and make arrests at the Berkeley protest, Bakhit said.
“The frustrating thing for the police officers is that they weren’t allowed to do their jobs,” he said.
Berkeley Police Sgt. Sabrina Reich defended the response, saying officers feared increased violence and more serious injuries if the violence escalated accompanied by a heavier-handed police response. Investigators are reviewing extensive video taken during the protest and more arrests are possible, she said.
Several officers did fire paint-ball like guns to mark rioters for detention and their possible arrest, she said. But if officers had made more arrests at the scene, up to three officers would have had to give up crowd control duty to escort each suspected rioter to jail, Reich said.
The University of California, Berkeley would rather incur tens of thousands of dollars in property damage by protesters to the liberal campus than endure expensive lawsuits by arrested or detained students, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
The Chronicle notes that UC Berkeley was left with $100,000 in damage to the campus following dangerous riots carried out by protesters and “Black bloc” anarchists against an appearance by Breitbart Tech editor Milo Yiannopoulos on Wednesday.
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shocked: leftist crying about freedom of speech 
remember, that table above is aggregated data from the entire Devos family from 1980-2017.
$98,300 represents 0.002% of total donations to Rubio in one FY.
remember, that table above is aggregated data from the entire Devos family from 1980-2017.
$98,300 represents 0.002% of total donations to Rubio in one FY.
Senator Marco Rubio has reported a total of 44,438 contributions ($200 or more) totaling $39,195,934 in 2013-2014.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
shocked: leftist crying about freedom of speech
remember, that table above is aggregated data from the entire Devos family from 1980-2017.
$98,300 represents 0.002% of total donations to Rubio in one FY.
remember, that table above is aggregated data from the entire Devos family from 1980-2017.
$98,300 represents 0.002% of total donations to Rubio in one FY.
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