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11-05-2017, 05:49 PM
#9828
These Saudi arrests? The one guy is a huge shareholder in Fox and Twitter and an Arab media company? And has personally 'twitter beef'd' with Trump? Not to mention all the pictures with the Bin Ladens shaking hands with US gov't officials, also US military providing training for what became Taliban.
I'm not actually wearing a tin foil hat. It's a complicated world. But this being stranger than fiction, is there any coherent narrative to try and make sense of this? Like "oh our bad the owner of Fox and Twitter is/was a huge Saudi kingpin and actual Prince, no big deal. Carry on."
National security is a big deal, as in not spilling the beans on any real threats around the world to the public. But there's also crooks and thieves basically hiding their tracks. A few years ago it was Enron execs in the news. Now it's like the world leaders.
I'm not actually wearing a tin foil hat. It's a complicated world. But this being stranger than fiction, is there any coherent narrative to try and make sense of this? Like "oh our bad the owner of Fox and Twitter is/was a huge Saudi kingpin and actual Prince, no big deal. Carry on."
National security is a big deal, as in not spilling the beans on any real threats around the world to the public. But there's also crooks and thieves basically hiding their tracks. A few years ago it was Enron execs in the news. Now it's like the world leaders.
There are currently 12 sealed federal indictments that have yet to be served. Gonna be an interesting time while Trump is away.
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11-05-2017, 08:41 PM
#9829
Relatively speaking, we can assume this is correct. I am grateful that for the most part we all have access to food water shelter safety etc. A lot more actually that we take for granted. Although I would argue that your definition of "class in other countries" sounds pretty darn familiar here in the US, even if you adjust the 'severity' **** to fit your perception in our culture. But no matter where you are, if you feel there's room for improvement, that's relative too. You could say that I'm just whining with my previous rant, but I feel both of us may be guessing as to how prevalent each viewpoint really is.
In the US it don't matter who your parents are end of discussion.
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11-06-2017, 09:47 AM
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My list of cities isn't meant to be perfect. I've mentioned it here before but Tulsa OK is where Black Wall Street was before the Tulsa authorities and citizens killed hundreds of people. Was the whole city of Tulsa and everyone involved held accountable and put on trial for this? Was justice done? Or was it a police-backed major domestic terrorist attack that went unchecked and swept under the rug? You want to shell out blame and be condescending toward whole groups of people but I urge you to continue reading real United States history if you are interested. To be clear I am putting forth the idea that you cannot even begin to argue police brutality or fairness in the justice system with a straight face when you have documented incidents of racially driven mass murder on the department's record. Are you kidding me? That is substantially worse than anything else recorded in history regarding any kind of racial domestic violence or rioting/protesting. The police department is responsible for the most violent atrocious crimes against humanity, how's that for a thought? It's not 1 or 2 isolated 'generally considered tragic' incidents, this is commonplace going back to the days of the cattle/oil baron. I mean there are ignoramuses and genuine confederate sympathizers so it's not like everyone can be convinced at least not easily. This country has some big open wounds from its past and without airing it all out in the open it can't be cleaned or start to heal.
I just want to point out your interesting juxtaposition.
"Tulsa was full of bigot, racist murderers that were just looking to lynch a bunch of black people. Ignore the fact that Tulsa also had the most successful black population in the country........."
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11-06-2017, 09:57 AM
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Sorta, but nowadays Greenwood Ave has been taken over by all the downtown developments.........the new ballpark is next to it, burger joint, salon, bail bond, etc. It's a small area.
There might still be a black owned barber shop there though.
*Tulsa resident for nearly 35 years sans a few years for college* Now in OKC, and I find this place dreadful by comparison.
There might still be a black owned barber shop there though.
*Tulsa resident for nearly 35 years sans a few years for college* Now in OKC, and I find this place dreadful by comparison.
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11-06-2017, 12:19 PM
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#FOXpointsoutCNN'slies
Anti-Trump media makes up fake story about overfeeding fish at Japanese koi pond | Fox News
Anti-Trump media makes up fake story about overfeeding fish at Japanese koi pond | Fox News
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11-06-2017, 12:40 PM
#9840
There is also lots of evidence that people are just racist in ways that we don't expect. For instance, there are studies that show that in stressful situations police officers view black children, on average, 4 or 5 years older than they view white children which could and does play out in all sorts of different ways. Is that systematic racism or is that the effects of the cop growing up isolated from people of different races when he was at that age which was a product of where his parents bought a house which is a product of where property lines were drawn which definitely could come from racism many decades ago. In the 1960s, half of Americans said they'd move if a black family moved next door. Now it's 6 percent. I will be interested to see the study done again in 20 years and see if police still view black and white kids as years apart or if the gap shrinks.
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