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Old 05-03-2010, 02:34 PM   #81
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...goes a long way.

are you speaking specifically about the welfare line?
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  1. The lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) for the average illegal alien is $55,000 cost to the American taxpayer in a 5-year span. You personally pay $11,000 every year to illegal aliens.

2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
Is this accurate considering that only 47% of Americans pay taxes? I dropped $17,000 in taxes last year. I'll make sure and think about how unfair it is to deport this trash next time I use a federal service.
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:07 PM   #83
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Oh come one you know that if you're ~5' and you look like youre name could be pancho, you're *** will be put in question.

How does an illegal immigrat, without legal documents, get unemployment benefits???
through identity theft. I have a very good friend who married a Peruvian immigrant who used a dead man's SS# before he became a resident alien.
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through identity theft. I have a very good friend who married a Peruvian immigrant who used a dead man's SS# before he became a resident alien.
Then, damn she has *****. I've came across people that use forged, or false SS number to secure a job. I would think that applying for government benefits would incur a little more background reference regarding the authenticity of the documents submitted- I guess Iím wrong.
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Then, damn she has *****. I've came across people that use forged, or false SS number to secure a job. I would think that applying for government benefits would incur a little more background reference regarding the authenticity of the documents submitted- I guess Iím wrong.
Her husband never requested social services aside from utilizing our tax funded infrastructure; the fake SS# and Arizona license only got him a job while the federal income tax he paid wen't into federal coffers. He's now in the citizenship process.
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Her husband never requested social services aside from utilizing our tax funded infrastructure; the fake SS# and Arizona license only got him a job while the federal income tax he paid wen't into federal coffers. He's now in the citizenship process.

Well that's common. What I was wondering is how does an ilegal immigrant with fake documentation, or no documentation at all, is elegible for unemployment benefits.
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Looking out for your raft buddies?
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If Police have reasonable suspicion to pull you over they can, and if police have reasonable suspicion to search your car they can... how many times have you been pulled over and/or had your car searched?

Your buddy wont go to jail unless 15 Mexicans jump out of his truck when he's getting pulled over and then he can't verify his citizenship...but that wouldn't even matter cause they'd nail him for trafficking at that point.

Exactly again.

I have been pulled over about a half dozen times. I have recived tickets on three of those occasions. As I specifically said, DLs make sense. For one thing, if you are going to be using a 2000-4000 pound hunk of glass and steel at 70MPH within feet of other citizens, I want some sort of vetting process in place. As does about 99.5% of the population.

My buddy looks hispanic or like a member of Al Queda depending on how recently he shaved and the officer is required now to check him for some sort of proof of citizenship. Before the officer had some discretion. "Reasonable suspicion of being illegal" is just about anything and the cops know that some peice of crap will sue them if they dont check everyone. So they will. I hope I am wrong on that, but I doubt it. Lot of very litigation happy people in PHX these days. Despite the fact that the cops dont have the time or resources or the jail space.

Dead on that this duplicated federal law. It just does it with much more limited state resources. What the **** happened to putting the guard on the border? Napolitano did that and it ******* worked and just about everyone I knew was in favor of it. You want to use state resources, use those. Its damned good training for the deployments a lot of those folks will be doing, and a few hundred troops at a time will help tremendously. I hear we are hiring another 10 thousand IRS people. Lets hire 5000 more border patrol people and 5000 more IRS people. I am pretty sure just about everyone would be on board with that. The feds need to be held accountable to the poeple and do their damned job rather than foisting it off on local guys.

And if someone started acting like he had a bomb on his chest in Mesa, they would straight get the civilians clear and snipe his ***. They dont have the luxury of ******* around anyway.
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:58 PM   #89
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596 Criminal Aliens Arrested in Targeted Ice Operation Throughout The Southeastern U.S.
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Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary for ICE John Morton cited the operation - which involved nearly 400 federal and local law enforcement officers and agents - as another example of ICE's focus on indentifying and removing criminal aliens from the United States.
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Looking out for your raft buddies?
Not at all. Rafter happen to have this awesome ******* law called "Pies secos, pies mojados". Under this law any and all cuban immigrant that touches US soil, can immediatly begin his/her naturalization process. So, in matter of months "my rafter friends" have work permits, and provisionary social security number, and medicaid, and food stamps, and wellfare and all the good stuff. In about a year and half "my rafter friends" are legal permanent residents. In 5 years, most become citizens. So Im not looking out for any of "my rafter friends", there's no need, uncle sam's got them
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yeah i thought of that after i posted. i thought communism was awesome, why do these people want to be here?
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yeah i thought of that after i posted. i thought communism was awesome, why do these people want to be here?
So that they can tell the rest of us "how hard" it is to grow up in a place where everything is given to you.

Im gonna stop the hating here, some rafters are good intellegent people. However some are ******* lazy ************* that complaint all day long and ask for hand outs every chance they get.
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same can be said for every race/ethnicity in the entire world!


also, did you know that black holes are created from hypernovas?
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same can be said for every race/ethnicity in the entire world!


also, did you know that black holes are created from hypernovas?
Yeah, but no other ethnicity has a law like that.

Yeah, IIRC a hypernova like supernovas happen when iron atom fuse and can no longer produce energy thus it condenses till all mass is reduced to a fraction of the original size. At this point an explosion happends creating a singularity with gravity fields so strong, that no even light can escape.

Did you know if the a star the size of the earth were to collapse and form a blackhole if would actually glow and will be roughly the sezi of a pea
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which law are you referring to?


i heard a golf ball size with the same mass.
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This thread is Let's just throw anyone that doesn't speak English or isn't white out of the country. THIS IS OUR LAND!!!

Can I get an amen my brothers.
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okay tough guy.
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okay tough guy.
I also drive a camo Ford truck that's lifted, so don't mess with me.

To be completely honest, my people and I want our land back. There are casinos to be built, alcohol to be consumed and spousal *** whoopings to be dealt.
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Yeah, but no other ethnicity has a law like that.
which law are you referring to?
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Soon people will be arguing that illegals have the right to vote...or at least 3/5's of a vote.
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