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Old 11-12-2012, 02:12 PM   #221
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just imagine i posted pictures where the highest numbers of immigrants live. now what do you say about that data?
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Some counter data:



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Blaen - You counter an accusation of voter fraud occurring in Ohio by showing that only one person in Florida was prosecuted in their dragnet to check for potential voter fraud?

Also, what kind of BS site was that first ? It's not even a story, just a random phrase with a poll attached? You yourself were raising flags over potential voter fraud a few months ago. What am I missing?

I am also confused as hell on the FL voter fraud issue. I don't see any real advantage to shortening the early voting period but I also don't see why double checking voter registration is a problem. Best case = you find one kooky Canadian. Worse case = you find a boatload of corruption.

My main issue with the review is that there seemed to be zero efforts aimed at absentee ballot voting which appears to be the easiest path for voter fraud.
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A whole 16 posts wow.
My point was that I am not posting my story all over the internet. There are obviously others that witnessed this voter fraud in Arcata Ca.

My viewpoints are that stupid unsuccessful people well always make stupid unsuccessful decisions. Therefore why should we even let them vote. They decide for mass economic suicide and I have to live with it?!

If your not a citizen and you don't work or own a home, you shouldn't have the right to vote.

Or the more taxes you pay the more votes you get. You work for you're money why let someone who doesn't work or pay taxes decide how it gets spent.
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I find it interesting here in Washington State a few elections ago we had a ridiculously tight governor race with several re-counts and republicans sued alleging voter fraud and suing in court over the outcome. In court they produced no evidence of voter fraud for their case. The democratic defense showed a handful of fraudulent votes for republicans however.

This election the state elected executive positions somewhat ironically we elected entirely democrats to state executive office with the exception of the Secretary of state. The secretary of state is in charge of our election process and we now have someone who will crack down on those nonexistent fraudulent voters being bussed in from Mexico.
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My point was that I am not posting my story all over the internet. There are obviously others that witnessed this voter fraud in Arcata Ca.

My viewpoints are that stupid unsuccessful people well always make stupid unsuccessful decisions. Therefore why should we even let them vote. They decide for mass economic suicide and I have to live with it?!

If your not a citizen and you don't work or own a home, you shouldn't have the right to vote.

Or the more taxes you pay the more votes you get. You work for you're money why let someone who doesn't work or pay taxes decide how it gets spent.
I pay double as a percent of my income to the federal government compared to Romney and I actually work for my income rather than receive it from a blind trust as it is accumulated from the work of others. Does that mean my vote should count twice as much?

Or is it that Romney makes so much money he can buy government make and make the rules so he can pay less or even zero on the form of income he makes.
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I pay double as a percent of my income to the federal government [meaning Federal income tax + payroll taxes (the latter, Romney would not pay if he is not employed)] compared to Romney and I actually work for my income rather than receive it from a blind trust as it is accumulated from the work of others. Does that mean my vote should count twice as much?
Good question. Does retirement and investment income paid from saving for a lifetime count more or less than wage, salary and/or commission income from current employment?
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Good question. Does retirement and investment income paid from saving for a lifetime count more or less than wage, salary and/or commission income from current employment?
I don't know but if you own a vulture capital company sucking the life out of the economy while you’re working for a salary as Romney did somehow you can get 100+ million tax differed investment into his IRA over a few short years whereas the average non oligarch income earner is limited to 17,000 a year tax differed no matter how much they make.
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I think we should increase the tax on all people im jealous of.
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I pay double as a percent of my income to the federal government compared to Romney and I actually work for my income rather than receive it from a blind trust as it is accumulated from the work of others. Does that mean my vote should count twice as much?

Or is it that Romney makes so much money he can buy government make and make the rules so he can pay less or then zero on the form of income he makes.
No. But at a minimum it should count as twice that of someone on welfare. No questions you work you make a difference for the better.
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I don't know but if you own a vulture capital company sucking the life out of the economy while you’re working for a salary as Romney did somehow you can get 100+ million tax differed investment into his IRA over a few short years whereas the average non oligarch income earner is limited to 17,000 a year tax differed no matter how much they make.
Bob, I am going to go home and make you some sort of award for eclipsing Braineack in the use of hyperbolic language - both in volume and extremes.

1. Define for me "a few short years" and cite the source that verified that's how many years Romney funded his 401(k) or equivalent that was rolled over to his current IRA.

2. Cite the source that can verify the (cost) basis for that same employer-sponsored plan.

3. Your "non oligarch income earner" is not limited to $17k per year in tax differed investments. Even supposing you limited to an employer-sponsored plan (which is a lousy supposition, but I'll run with it because we are going to talk about vehicles which can be rolled over to an IRA), you are ignoring employer contributions.

For fun, go find out how much a self-employed, sole proprietor can stuff in to a tax-deductible, tax-deferred plan. Hint: Check in to SEPs and "solo 401(k)" plans.



Bob - I hear your car is pretty fast and makes big power. Crusher is super fast and reliable. Theseus made huge power for a track car. I don't understand how that is possible with a basic Miata and I can't be bothered to put in the time and effort to duplicate those results, nor do I have the natural talents to build and/or drive a car even if I could figure out the secret sauce.

Ergo, you guys are a bunch of cheating crooks that are taking advantage of the middle (of the pack) class of amatuer racers. Hell, Emilio and Sav RUN BUSINESSES BUILDING FAST CARS! They hardly even count as amateur racers! They are just part of that super elite that's out there trying to stick-it-to the less advantaged.

No doubt, you racetrack oligarchs probably bribe the track day judges and sabatoge the competition all so you can take from the lower (car) classes and benefit yourselves. Hell, look at how Sav teamed up with Emilio and 949 Racing to rape and pillage the BRP WERC enduro!





Sounds ridiculous, right?
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I find it interesting here in Washington State a few elections ago we had a ridiculously tight governor race with several re-counts and republicans sued alleging voter fraud and suing in court over the outcome. In court they produced no evidence of voter fraud for their case. The democratic defense showed a handful of fraudulent votes for republicans however.

This election the state elected executive positions somewhat ironically we elected entirely democrats to state executive office with the exception of the Secretary of state. The secretary of state is in charge of our election process and we now have someone who will crack down on those nonexistent fraudulent voters being bussed in from Mexico.
I for one and really glad that blemish free Democrats are more or less running the show nationally now. With Republicans out of the way the country will naturally get back on course and corruption will disappear. Dogmatic group think will be a thing of the past. Violence will decrease, poverty will decrease, and we will all be better for it.
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Some counter data:

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PSsst... same map. Stop trying to fake the data mang!
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I for one and really glad that blemish free Democrats are more or less running the show nationally now. With Republicans out of the way the country will naturally get back on course and corruption will disappear. Dogmatic group think will be a thing of the past. Violence will decrease, poverty will decrease, and we will all be better for it.
I laughed awhile about this. Thanks for that.

When either party pulls this off... I expect flying pigs to migrate across the country pull 10g loop-d-loops.
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I have the answer to a questions raised a few pages back.

Why should the rich pay more? Because...

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Hey look, you can find correlating data between all these too:










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just imagine i posted pictures where the highest numbers of immigrants live. now what do you say about that data?
That's racist...

Is there any data that relates tax payers eligible to vote, and tax payers not eligible to vote in relation to the state/county of residence and the amount of government cheese in said state/county?
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That's racist..
Sort of, but only if you are interpeting the data and seeing what's happening.

Bob wants to try to correlate the states that vote red in 2012 with racism.

what he failed to post is this correlation:






It was Republicans who beat the racist demoncrats and ultimately ended segregation. Democrats like to rewrite history in order to keep their immigrants slaves as a voter base.

After Kennedy there was an interesting swing, Deomcrats used their favorite move: the race card. They painted Goldwater as a racist and the vote completely reversed.

After the New Deal was passed, blacks who almost always voted Republican, now were almost always voting democratic and loving life on the dull, becoming a slave to the Demoncratic party. Ever since 1964 they have yet to vote less than 80% for the democrat. The Demoncratic party has done a fantastic job keeping up the racist republican stereotype, and keeping blacks inpoverished for the last 48 years.

But yes, you are entirely correct with your Obamaphone response. Blacks will glady accept free gifts, continue to live impoverished, just by giving up their vote back to the Demoncrats. Their culture and lifestyle has completely gone downhill ever since; they enjoy the highest unemployement rates and highest out of wedlock birthrates and lowest wages than any other race in the US.
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