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Braineack 07-17-2013 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1032456)

Also if you're quoting NOFX, then:

You point your fuckin' finger
You racist, you bigot
But that's not the problem
Now is it?

phillyb 07-17-2013 10:11 AM

it's all about the money, political power...

but more importantly...

HOW DID THE CAT GET SO FAT?

Braineack 07-17-2013 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by phillyb (Post 1032965)
HOW DID THE CAT GET SO FAT?

Because no one has heard of this case, and/or really cares:

John Spooner trial: Darius Simmons's mother describes watching neighbour 'shoot dead her black son' | Mail Online

phillyb 07-17-2013 10:18 AM

poor mother

shuiend 07-17-2013 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1032967)

I am 100% ok with that guy being charged with murder for shooting the teen. He was not on the ground getting his head beat in.

Ryan_G 07-17-2013 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1033009)
I am 100% ok with that guy being charged with murder for shooting the teen. He was not on the ground getting his head beat in.

I agree. That case is pretty much cold blooded murder. People are really messed up.

phillyb 07-17-2013 11:37 AM

yeah, after reading that article that shit sucks...
also fuck an insanity plea. but that's another thread for another time.
dude straight up shot the kid from what seems like a pretty short range because the old fuck was suspicious the kid stole shit?

jesus, i have a fucking hunch that scott is stealing my cats. i confront him. he denies it. then i shoot him.

dafuq?

FRT_Fun 07-17-2013 01:21 PM

Well, scott probably did steal your cats.

Braineack 07-17-2013 01:30 PM

that's not all i stole.

Scrappy Jack 07-17-2013 02:05 PM

That Spooner trial seems almost completely unrelated to the Zimmerman case.
The shocking account came in the second day of Spooner's trial as jurors watched footage from the elderly man's own surveillance video, which showed him confronting Simmons on the sidewalk outside their houses, pointing a gun at the teen's chest and firing from just a few feet away.

[...]

In the surveillance footage, Spooner emerges from his house that morning and confronts Simmons.

He points a gun at the boy, who quickly moves backward a few steps. Both Spooner and the teen direct their attention toward a porch at Simmons' home, where Simmons' mother is standing.

Moments later, Spooner points the gun back at Simmons and fires, hitting him in the chest.

As the teen stumbles and runs away, Spooner fires a second shot that misses him.
Here, you have at least one eyewitness, surveillance video, and no physical confrontation. That is totally different.

Meanwhile, I like how the article throws this in:
Some have likened the shooting of Simmons as 'vigilantism and rogue police behavior' and similar to the killing in Florida of Trayvon Martin.

In both cases, an older man allegedly killed a black teen because the shooter believed they were suspicious.
WTF? No. In one case, a 76 year old man shot a 13 year old because he thought he stole something from him. In the other case, a 32 year old shot a 17 year old because the teen was on top of him, breaking his nose and hitting his skull on the concrete sidewalk.

I am now convinced that the first case is exactly what all of the "Justice Revenge for Trayvon" folks believe happened in the Zimmerman case.

phillyb 07-17-2013 02:30 PM

leave it to the media...

JasonC SBB 07-17-2013 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 1033089)
Meanwhile, I like how the article throws this in:
Some have likened the shooting of Simmons as 'vigilantism and rogue police behavior' and similar to the killing in Florida of Trayvon Martin.

In both cases, an older man allegedly killed a black teen because the shooter believed they were suspicious.
WTF? ... I am now convinced that the first case is exactly what all of the "Justice Revenge for Trayvon" folks believe happened in the Zimmerman case.

The various media editors-in-chief are doing this not because they have a personal agenda, but because it sells. </sarcasm>

JasonC SBB 07-17-2013 03:15 PM

These guys expose the liberal bias in the media:

NewsBusters | Exposing Liberal Media Bias

However, they don't bother to show Fox news lies and distortions. :rolleyes:

olderguy 07-17-2013 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1033120)

However, they don't bother to show Fox news lies and distortions. :rolleyes:

Would make some interesting reading. Link please.

shuiend 07-17-2013 07:37 PM


Opti 07-17-2013 08:12 PM

Who needs to follow laws and procedures in a court of law? Laws are just a bunch of bureaucratic red tape laid out by the white man to keep street law from being efficient as it can be.

Invisible hand

/sarcasm

JasonC SBB 07-17-2013 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 1033122)
Would make some interesting reading. Link please.

Well here are pro FOX articles:

Gallup: Fox Is America's Main Source For News | NewsBusters

Elisabeth Hasselbeck Leaving 'The View' for Fox News Channel | NewsBusters

Braineack 07-18-2013 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1033263)

That's funny, when i wrote this:


I love how Juan Williams wrote an op-ed about all the show-trial-racist stuff, then got pissed last night because there was no justice for Trayvon and the jury didn't use their hearts when deciding GZ's fate.
I was referring that interview, but I turned it off before I heard LT speak, I couldn't stand Juan's take on the verdict after reading his piece.

This is the piece I was talking about: 'Crackers,' a 'teenage mammy' -- the sorry truth about race and Zimmerman trial | Fox News

So, while he complains that the media doesn't give a "straight, objective coverage of any story," he also complains when a jury gives a straight, objective verdict based on law.

Braineack 07-18-2013 10:04 AM

another read:


...In the golden age of racial demagoguery, they came at a pace of about one a year. Al Sharpton was usually involved.

...

Whenever a much-celebrated claim of racism turned out to be false -- which was almost always -- you'd just stop hearing about it. There would never be a clippable story admitting that the media's harrumphing had been in error: Attention, readers! That story we've been howling about for several months turned out to be a complete fraud.

A little time would pass, and then we'd get an all-new, excited "America is still racist" media campaign. Journalists are incapable of learning that they should get all the facts before launching moral crusades.

As a result, the official record shows: A few hate crimes and some unverified hate crimes with no clear resolution one way or another. As long as the fraudulent hate crimes didn't get counted as strikeouts, liberals always looked like Ted Williams.

Since they didn't keep an accurate batting average, I did it for them in Mugged.

The case most like George Zimmerman's is the Edmund Perry case. In 1985, Perry, a black teenager from Harlem who had just graduated from Phillips Exeter Academy, mugged a guy who turned out to be an undercover cop. He got shot and a few hours later was dead.

Instead of waiting for the facts, the media rushed out with a story about Officer Lee Van Houten being a trigger-happy, racist cop. When that turned out to be false, The New York Times looked at its shoes. It was the kind of story the elites wanted to be true. It should be true. We had such high hopes for that one. Damn!

The initial news accounts stressed not only that Perry was a graduate of Exeter on his way to Stanford, but that he was unarmed. (In all white-on-black shootings, the media expect the white to have RoboCop-like superpowers to detect any weapons on the perp as well as his resume.)

A few weeks after the shooting, The New York Times called Perry "a prized symbol of hope." In a telling bit of obtuseness, The Times said that "all New Yorkers have extraordinary reasons to wish for the innocence of the young man who was killed." I doubt very much that the cop being accused of being a murderous racist hoped for that.

An article in The Village Voice explained: "[L]ike so many other victims in this city," Perry was "just too black for his own good."

Luckily for the policeman, Perry had mugged him in a well-lit hospital parking lot. Twenty-three witnesses backed the officer's story in testimony to the grand jury. (Unlike Zimmerman, Van Houten's case was at least presented to a grand jury.)

As I wrote in "Mugged": "God help Officer Van Houten if he had been mugged someplace other than a hospital parking lot with plenty of witnesses." Such as, for example, a dark pathway in The Retreat at Twin Lakes. There weren't 23 witnesses backing Zimmerman's story, only about a half-dozen. But, as with Van Houten, the evidence overwhelmingly corroborated Zimmerman's story.

In Van Houten's case, even after it was blindingly clear that Perry had mugged him, the truth was only revealed amid great sorrow. When the facts were unknown, the cop was a racist. When it turned out Perry had mugged the cop, it was no one's fault, but a problem of "violence," "confusion" and "two worlds" colliding.

Perhaps, someday, blacks will win the right to be treated like volitional human beings. But not yet.

As with Zimmerman's case this week, some journalists pretended to have missed the court proceedings that supported the self-defense story. Even after the grand jury's refusal to indict Van Houten, Dorothy J. Gaiter of the Miami Herald wrote about Perry in an article titled "To Be Black and Male Is Dangerous in U.S." She asked: "How do you teach a boy to be a man in a society where others may view him as a threat just because he is black?"

Van Houten said he was jumped, knocked to the ground, punched and kicked by Edmund Perry. Grand jury witnesses backed his story. Isn't it possible that Van Houten saw Perry as a threat for reasons other than "just because he is black"?

(And please stop talking about Martin's "hoodie"! Zimmerman wasn't worried about the hoodie; he was worried about being beaten to death.)

Instead of turning every story about a black person killed by a white person into an occasion to announce, "The simple fact is, America is a racist society," liberals might, one time, ask the question: Why do you suppose there would be a generalized fear of young black males? What might that be based on?

Throw us a bone. It's because a disproportionate number of criminals are young black males. It just happens that when Lee Van Houten and George Zimmerman were mugged by two of them, they survived the encounter.

olderguy 07-18-2013 10:52 AM

Never thought I would agree with Tavis Smiley, but I would add two words to his comment near the end of the interview; make that "arm every (law abiding) black man"........ and crime would trend down right away.

Tavis Smiley in the 'No Spin Zone' | Fox News Video

JasonC SBB 07-18-2013 11:52 AM

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Braineack 07-18-2013 12:05 PM

because racecar.

Joe Perez 07-18-2013 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1033502)
(why can't I place bounties on people, but the leader of a large and highly visible organization can?)

It's essentially a matter of scale, much like the famous observation "Kill one man, and you're a murderer. Kill a million, and you're a king."

Violence is legitimized by authority, or the perception of authority. In much the same vein, it would be illegal for me to construct drone weapons and use them to blow up buildings containing individuals who I deemed to be threats to national security. The President, by contrast, is rewarded with Nobel prizes for doing this exact same thing. Because we collectively agree that the President has authority, he is free to arbitrarily order assassinations.

olderguy 07-18-2013 12:38 PM

I was asking for any anti-fox factual articles;)

Scrappy Jack 07-18-2013 02:17 PM

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which won some acclaim for fighting for victims of hate crimes and winning victories against white supremacists, considers the New Black Panthers a hate group.

Erat 07-18-2013 07:08 PM

Police: Body recovered is missing Family Dollar employee - Fox 2 News Headlines

Were the victims black? No?

Okay, no major media news coverage. Oh but Detroit filing for chapter 9 is making all the headlines.

Serious all the major news channels could devote ALL their time to this city, and couldn't cover all the bullshit.


Edit* I've been in this thread since the beginning, but i like to just read and take in all the information from all the sides. I tell you, i get more useful facts that i would otherwise never see had i not been in this thread. Talk about the American persons being robbed.

mgeoffriau 07-18-2013 08:39 PM

You know, this is a rather small issue in the context of the case, but I have to say I'm tired of people describing the physical altercation as a "fistfight."

I would encourage anyone who feels tempted to describe it as a fistfight to have someone several inches taller and quite a bit stronger than they are to mount them MMA-style and drop a few punches from up top before grabbing their head and smacking it into a hard cement surface, and see if they would still describe that experience as a "fistfight."

JasonC SBB 07-18-2013 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1033782)
You know, this is a rather small issue in the context of the case, but I have to say I'm tired of people describing the physical altercation as a "fistfight."

I would encourage anyone who feels tempted to describe it as a fistfight to have someone several inches taller and quite a bit stronger than they are to mount them MMA-style and drop a few punches from up top before grabbing their head and smacking it into a hard cement surface, and see if they would still describe that experience as a "fistfight."

While choking on the blood draining into your throat from your broken nose, for 40 seconds.

cordycord 07-18-2013 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1033783)
While choking on the blood draining into your throat from your broken nose, for 40 seconds.

YES!!! Imagine not being able to breath while you were pummeled. Would you reach for your gun? Pepper spray? Box cutter? All of the above?

viperormiata 07-19-2013 01:50 AM

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18psi 07-19-2013 01:52 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 1033782)
You know, this is a rather small issue in the context of the case, but I have to say I'm tired of people describing the physical altercation as a "fistfight."

I would encourage anyone who feels tempted to describe it as a fistfight to have someone several inches taller and quite a bit stronger than they are to mount them MMA-style and drop a few punches from up top before grabbing their head and smacking it into a hard cement surface, and see if they would still describe that experience as a "fistfight."


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 1033783)
While choking on the blood draining into your throat from your broken nose, for 40 seconds.


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 1033795)
YES!!! Imagine not being able to breath while you were pummeled. Would you reach for your gun? Pepper spray? Box cutter? All of the above?

Its simple: you do nothing, and hope that he stops. If he doesn't, take one for the team and die. Anything else would be.....totally racist

:)

Braineack 07-19-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Erat (Post 1033754)
Okay, no major media news coverage. Oh but Detroit filing for chapter 9 is making all the headlines.

Detroit filing Chapter 9 is a big deal.

Or they could cover this sort of thing from Detroit:
Video Landing Page - Fox 2 News Headlines

I could post something like this daily.


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 1033795)
YES!!! Imagine not being able to breath while you were pummeled. Would you reach for your gun? Pepper spray? Box cutter? All of the above?

Typical trash piece of shit person putting themselves into the situation by acting like a fucking moron. If it weren't for the stupid fuck with his "I'll do what the fuck I want" attitude, he wouldn't have been beatdown. But no, he had to create a scene, leave his truck to an already tense scene, then exchange words with Trayvon...then have a gun with no restraint. No one to blame but the asshole himself.


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 1033882)

Thanks for posting that, it's really hard to keep up with whose movies/shows not to watch, this adds a bunch to the list.

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Braineack 07-19-2013 08:57 AM

Justice Department places 'hold' on Trayvon Martin trial evidence, including George Zimmerman's gun - which Florida law says must be returned to him | Mail Online


Sanford police confirmed on Thursday that the DOJ asked the agency not to return any pieces of evidence to their owners. Zimmerman was expected to get his firearm back by month's end.

The development is a sign that the criminal section of the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division is seriously investigating Zimmerman to determine if federal civil rights charges should be filed.

rleete 07-19-2013 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1033392)

Yeah, and in the article he states the following:

"Jeantel’s testimony set off a stupid debate, requiring total ignorance of slavery and legal segregation, about the equivalence of blacks using “cracker” to describe whites, versus whites using the word “nigger” to describe blacks."

Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. No person alive has ever been a slave in the US. No one alive has ever been a slave owner. Drop it already.

You want equity, you have to give it. Cracker=------, plain and simple. You can't be racist and expect everyone else to be colorblind.

Braineack 07-19-2013 09:13 AM

I'm sorry Chris, but I have no white-guilt. Unlike you, I sleep VERY well at night.

Chris Matthews To Black MSNBC Employee On Race: "I'm Speaking Now For All White People... I'm Sorry" | RealClearPolitics

I'd appreciate it if you'd stop speaking for me. Kthxbye.

Braineack 07-19-2013 10:06 AM

“We never endorsed that jury,” and, “If they had listened to the evidence and if they had followed the law, then George Zimmerman would have been convicted of murder,” were among the inflammatory statements Rand made about the jury.

Van Susteren then walked Rand through the purpose and responsibility of a jury in the U.S. criminal justice system. Rand responded by saying, “I have a greater duty beyond being an attorney and that’s to be a social engineer.

olderguy 07-19-2013 10:14 AM

Mark Levin: If Zimmerman Is Harmed, I Blame Holder, Sharpton And Obama | RealClearPolitics


"Mark Levin: If Zimmerman Is Harmed, I Blame Holder, Sharpton And Obama"

Obama and Holder, along with Sharpton and Jackson have done more to set back race relations in this country than any others in my lifetime. I am old and was never a racist, but........:sad2:

Braineack 07-19-2013 10:56 AM

http://danieljmitchell.files.wordpre...pg?w=500&h=565

http://danieljmitchell.files.wordpre...pg?w=500&h=531

FRT_Fun 07-19-2013 10:59 AM

I will never again live in a purple state.

Erat 07-19-2013 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1033913)
Detroit filing Chapter 9 is a big deal.

Or they could cover this sort of thing from Detroit:
Video Landing Page - Fox 2 News Headlines

I could post something like this daily.



That's exactly my point. Why the trayvon martin case was such a HUGE deal, when things like it happen daily in this city and hardly get reported on.

olderguy 07-19-2013 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1034001)

Might as well move NJ to "Right Denied"

Only 32000 CCW permits issued and 9 Million residents. And these were for security guards and the "well connected" politically.

Doppelgänger 07-19-2013 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1033913)



Typical trash piece of shit person putting themselves into the situation by acting like a fucking moron. If it weren't for the stupid fuck with his "I'll do what the fuck I want" attitude, he wouldn't have been beatdown. But no, he had to create a scene, leave his truck to an already tense scene, then exchange words with Trayvon...then have a gun with no restraint. No one to blame but the asshole himself.

Funny thing, replace Zimmerman with "man in car with dog" and Treyvon with "police" and the same story in your eyes is reversed. When the guy with the dog did the exact thing you say in your first two sentences, it's suddenly not his fault but the power-tripping cops fault.


The 3-Ring Circus Media has really skewed, chopped and edited so much of the information around everything it's really no wonder people can't see the bottom line of the whole thing. Not to mention the prosecution having poor judgement in picking the charge(s) they wanted to pursue. "Murder" by definition means Zimmerman was planning, to a degree, to kill. Clearly not the case as there is no indication that Zimmerman ever meant to draw and use his gun (though the fact that he had a gun bring in the speculation element of "did the gun give him a sense of power/protection"?). Even manslaughter would be a tough conviction given the known facts of the situation as it is a "heat of the moment" intent to kill and being the aggressor of the situation resulting in a death.

Clearly it takes a certain kind of mentality to want to step up and watch your community for crime and want to protect it. I know I would like to take a stand against the crap currently going on in my neighborhood, but it's not my personality type. That's we are not all police officers. So I don't think it is really fair to label him as someone "looking to be a hero" or going above and beyond what a concerned citizen should be doing to look out for the community....I have been around those kind of people (who do go too far), and sure as hell do not like that attitude.

Bottom line- It's a crappy situation. The media distorted the story, racist people sensationalized the story to be race-driven to try to convince others of it (those pulling the race card are the most racist of all....looking at you Sharpton & friends), media portrays a specific look/culture of criminals, and "artists" glorify/promote the hood/thug/criminal "look" to look cool. Now place someone in that culture into a gated neighborhood where that "look" is not part of the routine and where crime has been happening, put him in front of a guy who is adamant about taking a stand against what he sees around him...and don't really be surprised that his mentality is to label it suspicious and start taking action. There is nothing wrong with following or asking someone in your neighborhood what they are doing...that shouldn't be on the table...whoever touched the other person first is the ultimate cause for everything that happened....nothing else.

olderguy 07-19-2013 11:39 AM

Black America's Real Problem Isn't White Racism

Braineack 07-19-2013 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Doppelgänger (Post 1034018)
Funny thing, replace Zimmerman with "man in car with dog" and Treyvon with "police" and the same story in your eyes is reversed. When the guy with the dog did the exact thing you say in your first two sentences, it's suddenly not his fault but the power-tripping cops fault.


:giggle::giggle:

Braineack 07-19-2013 11:49 AM

Big words for a mob:

Protestors Post Signs, Letter At Mayor’s House « CBS Pittsburgh

http://cbspittsburgh.files.wordpress...sign.jpg?w=300

Doppelgänger 07-19-2013 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 1033986)
Mark Levin: If Zimmerman Is Harmed, I Blame Holder, Sharpton And Obama | RealClearPolitics


"Mark Levin: If Zimmerman Is Harmed, I Blame Holder, Sharpton And Obama"

Obama and Holder, along with Sharpton and Jackson have done more to set back race relations in this country than any others in my lifetime. I am old and was never a racist, but........:sad2:

It is perfectly OK to dislike specific sections of any culture or color and not be "racist".

Braineack 07-19-2013 02:23 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the White African-American President of the U.S.:

Setup: President calls for 'soul-searching' and 'national conversation' -- but warns politicians to butt out...

"Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago" he says...

"I don't want us to lose sight of the fact that things are getting better" he says...

"If Trayvon Martin was of age and he was armed, could he have 'stood his ground' on that sidewalk?" he says...

"If a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different." he says...

"It doesn't mean we're in a post-racial society or that racism has been eliminated" he says...

yeah, surely he's butting out.



also, he's bringing this back up:

"there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws" but that is another story in itself.



and just because:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/Z6...d1B7gcnGQfwZSV

olderguy 07-19-2013 05:20 PM

Thank You POTUS for proving my point

Braineack 07-22-2013 09:15 AM

For blacks, empathy with Obama trumps his economic record - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com


For the vast bulk of the African-American political class, the sense of identification and empathy with the nation’s first black president has almost always taken primacy over whatever disappointments they have with his record.

Braineack 07-22-2013 09:15 AM

Gingrich: Gangs Have Increased By 40 Percent Since Obama Was Elected | RealClearPolitics


You have a congressman who represents the most violent city in America. You have a congressman who represents the city in which over 500 people were killed last year, 74 percent of them African-American. You have a congressman who represents the city which is 80 percent of the killings, according to police, are by gangs. Gangs have increased -- let me finish. Gangs have increased by 40 percent since this president was elected. There is no federal program to stop it. No one wants to have an honest conversation about it. And so you have a congressman whose own district is bleeding, who puts on a hoodie as a symbolic act, but he doesn't do anything about the gangs in his own district.

Braineack 07-22-2013 01:54 PM

George Zimmerman Emerged From Hiding to Rescue Family Trapped in SUV - ABC News

Scrappy Jack 07-22-2013 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by ABC News Story
Meanwhile, a woman in Winter Park, Fla., has been on the receiving end of death threats meant for George Zimmerman ever since he was acquitted.

Lori Tankel told ABCNews.com that someone had incorrectly posted her cell phone number online thinking it was Zimmerman's. She said she started receiving threatening calls within an hour after the jury had reached a verdict on July 13.

"They were saying things like, 'Zimmerman? Is this George? We're going to get you, we're going to kill you,'" she said.

Her cell phone number is only one digit off from Zimmerman's, she said.

Tankel said she received at least 80 phone calls within one day of the jury's not guilty verdict. While the threats died down during the week, she said they ramped right back up again on Friday and continued through the weekend.

"Those phone calls were extremely malicious," she said. "I think at that point, they kind of knew it wasn't George Zimmerman's number, but they were still going to harass me."

:sad2:

cordycord 07-22-2013 02:56 PM


Skittles + Arizona Watermelon Ice Tea + prescription cough syrup = "Lean Purple"

Opti 07-22-2013 08:51 PM

Props. I wish it would go viral

FRT_Fun 07-22-2013 10:01 PM

Good vid. Hard to argue facts.

Braineack 07-23-2013 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 1035453)
Good vid. Hard to argue facts.

facts are only speedbumps on the road of the liberal agenda.

Braineack 07-23-2013 10:01 AM

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Braineack 07-23-2013 11:04 AM

Sanford county turned over all the GZ evidence over to the DOJ:


olderguy 07-23-2013 01:00 PM

I am in AC at the moment, looking for a "I am George Zimmerman" T shirt.

Braineack 07-23-2013 01:05 PM

Bruce, you're not hispanic and have a black grandparent...


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