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gearhead_318 03-29-2012 04:35 PM

Trayvon Martin: What say y'all?
 
I'm kinda surprised that nobody made this thread yet.

Braineack 03-29-2012 04:35 PM

cause nobody gives a ----. we aren't the liberal media trying to create a baseless story here.

mgeoffriau 03-29-2012 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 855868)
cause nobody gives a ----. we aren't the liberal media trying to create a baseless story here.

Pretty much.

I don't know what happened on that day; why waste time speculating over it?

Scrappy Jack 03-29-2012 05:15 PM

This is how some youth opt to show their solidarity: by ransacking a Walgreens.

I am really curious if Sharpton and Jackson get paid for their appearances at the events they speak at, such as the rallies held for Martin / against Zimmerman.

hustler 03-29-2012 05:26 PM

Luckily Representative Hank Johnson came to his rescue on Capitol Hill:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...-capitol-hill/

Here is one of his previous forays into intellectualism, where he considered the implications of "overloading" Guam with the threat of capsizing the island, lol.

Braineack 03-29-2012 05:54 PM

One whole minute to explain 24 miles long 7 miles wide. who cares about the rest of his retardedness.

TNTUBA 03-29-2012 06:43 PM

Who's that? does he own a Miata?

gearhead_318 03-29-2012 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by TNTUBA (Post 855921)
Who's that? does he own a Miata?

I donno, maybe.

EO2K 03-29-2012 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 855931)
I donno, maybe.

If he did, ACLU would be helping out. Why? Because :riaa:

elesjuan 03-29-2012 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 855868)
cause nobody gives a ----. we aren't the liberal media trying to create a baseless story here.

This.

Sucks the man lost his life, but I don't think he was quite as innocent as liberal media plays him out to be. I personally love how they continue to call him a boy and show pictures of Mr Martin when he was 13 years old.. Don't know how Florida treats things, but here in "Gods country" at 17 you're not a "boy" or a "child" any longer.

Not saying I don't care, but I almost don't. Hundreds upon hundreds of innocent people are murdered in gang shootings, some white and some black.. Some of the gunmen are white, some are black. Where is Al Fukcing Sharptons outrage at that? Fact of the matter is if you weren't there and you're not a law enforcement offical then it shouldn't concern you. You don't know the facts by watching liberal media, you don't know the facts by watching conservative media. Personally not in the business to convict someone of a crime without knowing any of the actual real facts.

Anyone else feel this is being blown way out of proportion by the left to yet again distract our country from the REAL issues??

gearhead_318 03-29-2012 07:11 PM

^ Yes.

flounder 03-29-2012 07:12 PM

Cover up for the obamaCare debacle. :brain:

xturner 03-29-2012 07:24 PM

It's like "Bonfire of the Vanities" - I read it, you probably shouldn't since it wasn't that good.
Young black kid unfortunately killed while trying to act gangsta. Everybody who can jumps on the incident to try to squeeze out some fame/money/sex/whatever - sensational journalists, politicians, DA, etc. Dead kid ends up portrayed as Jesus 2.0, everybody else makes money. Not a single good guy in the mix.

gearhead_318 03-29-2012 08:18 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...st_read_module

Hummm...

chpmnsws6 03-29-2012 08:34 PM

Isn't Zimmerman Hispanic? Or does he just have a real nice tan?

Spike Lee can plow himself.

Al Sharpton needs to pull his head out of his arse.

Let the courts determine who was in the wrong. Its all sounded biased from the getgo, but I might be biased being a poor working class male cracker..... Wait, isn't Zimmerman Hispanic?

gearhead_318 03-29-2012 08:39 PM

Yeah, his dad is white and his mom is latino.

RattleTrap 03-29-2012 09:44 PM

Thanks.
I have to live with this crap. I haven't turned the tv on for days. It's everywhere.

Only good thing outta this mess is that all the 'bandwagoneers' are being seen for what they really are. Opportunists. And people will know that 'Sanford' exists. FWTW.

Florida. We get everything; Casey Anthony, Rush Limbaugh/Sandra Fluke, Travon/Zimmerman, so many others I've forgotten. No wonder we're broke.
What'd we do? Is it the Florida Tourism Council trying to drum up interest and keep Fl in the news? C'mon down and see where Kaylee was found, where Trav was shot and the Windover site. (Rush's career is there.)
Naw'lins took away our claim-to-fame for hurricane damage. Hell, they only had one. It took us four in a row. We were proud of that accomplishment too.
Maybe it's all the drugs trafficked through here. That ain't pollen in the air. No wonder we're all bat----- crazy.

18psi 03-29-2012 10:04 PM

I love the old pictures where he looks like a young little saint, and not a punk ass hood rat vs a picture of Zimmerman where he looks like he just got out doing 20 for rape and murder.

ELL OH ELL

gearhead_318 03-29-2012 10:06 PM


Joe Perez 03-30-2012 12:14 AM

1 Attachment(s)
"Rev Al Sharpton gave city leaders a petition with 2 million signatures of people calling for Zimmerman to be locked up."

"the New Black Panther Party, has offered a $10,000 reward for his 'capture.'"

There's no justice like angry mob justice. :D

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1333080873





Originally Posted by RattleTrap (Post 856003)
I have to live with this crap. I haven't turned the tv on for days. It's everywhere.

Step 1: Disconnect TV.
Step 2:(???)
Step 3: Profit.

gearhead_318 03-30-2012 12:33 AM


Apparently he is a Lt. Colonel.
FYI, the New Black Panther Party is considerate a hate group.

18psi 03-30-2012 12:52 AM

:laugh: umad bro?

gearhead_318 03-30-2012 01:01 AM

1 Attachment(s)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1333083718

elesjuan 03-30-2012 01:31 AM


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 856061)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLiJ4k5QPNs

Apparently he is a Lt. Colonel.
FYI, the New Black Panther Party is considerate a hate group.

I consider them a hate group, but I'm white so I automatically hate black and hispanic people, apparently.

bbundy 03-30-2012 01:56 AM

Seems to me the stand your ground law has some serious flaws. I’ll just post some thoughts.

One guy went to the store to score some skittles and a Tea and have a phone conversation with his girlfriend evidence is there to support this. The other guy is patrolling the neighborhood with a gun looking for trouble anticipating the adrenaline rush of confrontation and the chance to enforce authority evidence to support this. Which one is likely to start some ----?

Another what if: What if Trevor was packing his own weapon and shot the big thug looking un-uniformed guy trying to confront him and chasing him down for his own self-defense. Most definitely he felt threatened and obviously he in fact was for his life. Do you think he would walk with no charges or further investigation on the basis of the stand your ground law as it worked for Zimmerman if this were the case?

Murder appears fully legal in Florida. Just have to make it look like you felt threat and it is your story against a dead mans story. Scary thought.

Bob

gearhead_318 03-30-2012 02:02 AM

Good point. Martin could have shot Zimmerman in self defense if Zimmerman had pulled a gun under this law.
If everyone in Florida had a gun and went to the same place, and one person pulled his/her gun and everyone pulled a gun on that person then everybody could legally shoot everyone else until there was nobody holding a gun left. Thats how to get rid of all those Floridians. Genus.

bbundy 03-30-2012 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 856089)
Good point. Martin could have shot Zimmerman in self defense if Zimmerman had pulled a gun under this law.
If everyone in Florida had a gun and went to the same place, and one person pulled his/her gun and everyone pulled a gun on that person then everybody could legally shoot everyone else until there was nobody holding a gun left. Thats how to get rid of all those Floridians. Genus.

The world would be a better place if we could get rid of some Flridians actually if they took a lot of the south with them it would help too.

Bob

viperormiata 03-30-2012 02:34 AM

I never heard about this- http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...ire-tv-station

18psi 03-30-2012 02:41 AM

because he's not black.

gearhead_318 03-30-2012 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 856093)
The world would be a better place if we could get rid of some Flridians actually if they took a lot of the south with them it would help too.

Bob

The south can be a beautiful place. I was born and raised in the south myself. Born in Maryland, raised in Kentucky.
But, there is an ugliness too. I was raised not an hours drive from the "headquarters" of the Imperial Clans of America, which is pretty much just a few dozen rednecks with guns these days.

Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 856094)

Try them as adults for attempted murder or manslaughter. Doesn't hate crime = double time or something like that?

RattleTrap 03-30-2012 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 856050)


Step 1: Disconnect TV.
Step 2:(???)
Step 3: Profit.

Step 2: Turn off radio. 'Cause all the radio dudes are talkin' 'bout it too.

It's the internet or ipod for me these days. But nothing stops people from asking about it. Like I know. I wasn't there. :rofl: I just live here...


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 856011)

LOL! Thx, quite apropos...


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 856089)
...then everybody could legally shoot everyone else until there was nobody holding a gun left. Thats how to get rid of all those Floridians. Genus.

Truth is, most here are not from here. They're all a buncha crazed northerners who were apparently heat-stroked and decided to move here.
In the 70's we had bumper stickers that read: 'You've seen our beaches, you've spent your money, Now GO HOME!'
Nobody listens...

Scrappy Jack 03-30-2012 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 856086)
Seems to me the stand your ground law has some serious flaws. I’ll just post some thoughts.

Your story skips over the current working assumption that Martin was on top of Zimmerman after having decked him (striking first), apparently corroborated by at least one witness. Yes, if Zimmerman had attacked Martin and was on top of him and Martin used a legally possessed firearm carried with a current and legal permit, I would absolutely expect the same or similar results.


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 856086)
Murder appears fully legal in Florida. Just have to make it look like you felt threat and it is your story against a dead mans story. Scary thought.

Self-defense is legal in Florida, unlike some other states where you are expected to flee for your life - at all costs - and be a victim. If it is proven, through the application of the criminal system, that this was murder then Zimmerman should be locked up.

The people who are rising up to defend Martin want a lynching, not justice.


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 856093)
The world would be a better place if we could get rid of some Flridians actually if they took a lot of the south with them it would help too.

That's hate speech, Bob.

Scrappy Jack 03-30-2012 06:48 AM

Agreed that you won't be able to know all the facts of the case by reading media reports, inclusive of all the perceived bias. We may never know the actual events as even eyewitness testimony is notoriously dodgy.

The truth, as is most often, probably lies somewhere in between Zimmerman and Martin both being saints. I would not be surprised if Zimmerman was overzealous and "hoping for trouble" (and then surprised when it started kicking his ass) and I would not be surprised if Martin embraced the "thug life" (and then was surprised when the pudgy light-skinned guy whose ass he was kicking shot him).

Multiple lives have been destroyed between the events and the shitshow that followed, including people completely unrelated to the events - like the couple that received death threats after Spike Lee and others tweeted their address, mistaking it for Zimmerman's.


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 855940)
Anyone else feel this is being blown way out of proportion by the left to yet again distract our country from the REAL issues??

I don't know how much of it is "the left" and how much of it is the Black Grievance, Inc. groups.

Braineack 03-30-2012 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by chpmnsws6 (Post 855982)
Isn't Zimmerman Hispanic?


No, he's white hispanic.


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 856061)
FYI, the New Black Panther Party is considerate a hate group.


Too bad Holder is a member, else they'd be arrested for this sort of stunt otherwise.


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 856140)
I don't know how much of it is "the left" and how much of it is the Black Grievance, Inc. groups.

When the liberal news invents "white hispanic," so they can have and eat cake, it's not the grievance squad.

When the liberal media has a panel discussion on Joe Oliver because he spoke in defense of Zimmerman and suggested maybe the media has jumped to a conclusion, it's not the grievence squad.

When ABC revels survelance tape that prooves nothing but continually says it shows he wasn't injured and therefore the police report is falsified, it's not the grievence squad.

When CNN plays a muffled audio tape, after an expert "audio guy" cleaned it up, and you cannot hear anything at all, but before playing the tape, Gary Tuchman first announced what the slur was supposed to be "f-----g coon," (suggesting the answer in advance), and then wraps up by saying "You know, it sounds like this allegation could be accurate, but I wouldn't swear to it in court. That's what it sounds like to me," it's not the grievence squad.

hustler 03-30-2012 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 856061)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLiJ4k5QPNs

Apparently he is a Lt. Colonel.
FYI, the New Black Panther Party is considerate a hate group.

^
Not a hate group, lol. No, seriously, most "hate crime" legislation is written as "injury to minorities, women, and gays" so no one can legally hate the white male. BTW, this is "thought crime". Don't let your thoughts indict you as a criminal. Be sure to turn yourself into authorities if you ever think in general.

Braineack 03-30-2012 09:56 AM

look up the stats on black on black murders. then lol at everything he says in the video.

hustler 03-30-2012 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 856188)
blackz, I hate them

Lol at this white-devil propagandist media -----. Been to a cross burning recently?

Braineack 03-30-2012 10:25 AM

I only go to the gym to be able to lift crosses.

Stein 03-30-2012 10:28 AM

I give zero fu_ks.

samnavy 03-30-2012 11:34 AM

I've listened to the 911 calls, read the witness statements, read every article that's been posted on several sites I frequent, and tried to wade through this entire mess. I have a Florida CCW and claim residency there... probably intend to retire there, so I try to keep up on politics and whatnot.

If the disposition from whatever law enforcement agency ends up having final say results in Zimmerman not being charged with a crime, it's going to be bad... like Rodney King bad, and it will be entirely due to media handling of this incident.

Based on everything that I've learned and considering Florida law, I don't see that Zimmerman ever committed a crime. It will probably show that Martin started the fight and was the aggressor, and that Zimmerman did his best to get away from Martin prior to resorting to deadly force. Zimmerman will not be charged, and Martin will end up being martyr for what ensues. That's what I think will happen.

Oh yeah... and I'm leaving for El Salvador in a couple hours... will be gone the whole month of April, so good luck.

Faeflora 03-30-2012 11:57 AM

I think this "string 'em up" BS is BS.

Why give a crap about one lousy murder in particular. gay.

18psi 03-30-2012 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 856188)
look up the stats on black on black murders. then lol at everything he says in the video.

exactly what I did:giggle:

Originally Posted by hustler (Post 856197)
Lol at this white-devil propagandist media -----. Been to a cross burning recently?


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 856210)
I only go to the gym to be able to lift crosses.

:laugh:

jeff_man 03-30-2012 12:46 PM

tl;dr

Will bet money 95% of people that think he just shot black kid for being black think he's a white guy. Hell i didn't even realize he was a hispanic tell i decided to stop and read some facts.

Also love how MLK Jr. own relatives are saying Jackson and Sharpton are ------- it up for black people, making them look bad and need to stfu.

Scrappy Jack 03-30-2012 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by bbundy (Post 856093)
The world would be a better place if we could get rid of some Flridians actually if they took a lot of the south with them it would help too.

Bob


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 856139)
That's hate speech, Bob.


I have determined that Bob is a racist against non-whites. How did I come to this conclusion? Well, according to US demographic information, Florida has a higher percentage of its population that is non-white versus Washington state* (Bob's apparent state of preference). Therefore, he wants to "get rid of" (code for drag behind a pickup truck) "some Floridians" (code for non-whites).


I have a call in to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson to address this hate speech.


*See page 18

Braineack 03-30-2012 01:03 PM

I thought they were called Canadians.

Braineack 03-30-2012 01:06 PM

Meanwhile in real news:

"For years, American manufacturers have faced one of the highest tax rates in the world. We want to reduce that by over 20%. We want to drop the rate, particularly, for high-tech manufacturers like you, Mr. President, even further than the 20%," Vice President Joe Biden said at a manufacturing plant in Davenport, Iowa this week.

"We want to create a global minimum tax, because American taxpayers shouldn't be providing a larger subsidy for investing abroad than investing at home," Biden said at a campaign event.

gearhead_318 03-30-2012 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 856234)
Oh yeah... and I'm leaving for El Salvador in a couple hours... will be gone the whole month of April, so good luck.

Good luck Sam, have fun in El Salvador.
Talk to yeah in July or September.

blaen99 03-30-2012 01:28 PM

Props to you, Scrappy.

Asfor my 2c on this:

Both sides want to get outraged. As an example, you see conservatives dredging up that Trayvon got suspended from school for having a bag with traces of Marijuana years ago - wtf does that have to do with being shot?

Counter-example: BLAAAACCK OUUTTRAAAGE, RACIIISSSMMM! from the other side.

Dude who shot Trayvon needs to have something more than just the token investigation because his story doesn't match up with the physical evidence nor witness testimony. People are getting their panties in a bunch because they want to get their panties in a bunch over something though - and this goes for both sides.

Braineack 03-30-2012 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 856321)
because his story doesn't match up with the physical evidence nor witness testimony.


but it does...

blaen99 03-30-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 856327)
but it does...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...at-do-we-know/

Impartial sources disagree with you, Brainy.

I'm not really up for arguing on this though Brainy. It's full of stupid. People who want to get outraged on both sides are just getting outraged over it when this sort of ---- happens all the time.

Joe Perez 03-30-2012 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 856304)
[I]"We want to create a global minimum tax"

I chuckled.

I understand what he meant, but I initially interpreted "global" to mean, well "global." As in "applied globally", where "global", as defined by Webster, means "of, relating to, or involving the entire world."

Meaning Biden wants to tax the entire world. And actually, I'm cool with that.

This is, amusingly, exactly what the author of "Nuke the Moon: A Realistic Plan for World Peace" proposed in order to fund a massive increase in US military expenditure. Specifically, an "other country tax," described as a tax for being a country other than the U.S.

chpmnsws6 03-30-2012 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 856333)
It's full of stupid. People who want to get outraged on both sides are just getting outraged over it when this sort of ---- happens all the time.


I think for the first time ever, I agree with you on this part quoted above.

Now back to killing Santorum for wanting to kill my porn....

Stein 03-30-2012 02:18 PM

I did hear the other day that for the third time ever in their history the New York Post referred to the shooter by using the phrase "white-Hispanic" WTF?

Had he just won the Nobel peace price I'm going to go out on a limb but they would refer to him as a Hispanic, no mention of the "white" part.

Scrappy Jack 03-30-2012 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 856333)
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...at-do-we-know/

Impartial sources disagree with you, Brainy.

I'm not really up for arguing on this though Brainy.

Maybe I am missing something or misunderstanding Zimmerman's side of the story, but I don't see anything in that link that shows an impartial source disagreeing with Zimmerman's version.

Braineack 03-30-2012 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 856333)
Impartial sources disagree with you, Brainy.


because they don't want to get murdered themselves...

:brain:

blaen99 03-30-2012 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 856370)
Maybe I am missing something or misunderstanding Zimmerman's side of the story, but I don't see anything in that link that shows an impartial source disagreeing with Zimmerman's version.

Video documenting no head injuries on Zimmerman?

Funeral home staff stating Martin had no injuries from any kind of scuffle?

Braineack 03-30-2012 03:03 PM

oh blaen, the voice of reason! case closed. Zimmerman hates people who eat skittles and makes sure they pay for their sins.

blaen99 03-30-2012 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 856321)
Props to you, Scrappy.

Asfor my 2c on this:

Both sides want to get outraged. As an example, you see conservatives dredging up that Trayvon got suspended from school for having a bag with traces of Marijuana years ago - wtf does that have to do with being shot?

Counter-example: BLAAAACCK OUUTTRAAAGE, RACIIISSSMMM! from the other side.

Dude who shot Trayvon needs to have something more than just the token investigation because his story doesn't match up with the physical evidence nor witness testimony. People are getting their panties in a bunch because they want to get their panties in a bunch over something though - and this goes for both sides.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 856403)
oh blaen, the voice of reason! case closed. Zimmerman hates people who eat skittles and makes sure htey are pay for their sins.

:squint: Yes Brainy, whatever you say Brainy.

NA6C-Guy 03-30-2012 08:23 PM

I have nothing to say about this "story". Just one of those stories the media jumped on, and everyone followed them on the bandwagon. I bet you could find similar stories happening several times a day in this country.

kaisersoze 03-31-2012 01:35 PM

So let me get this straight.
As a private citizen I can follow you on a public street.(even when instructed by LE not to) because you look like you are "up to no good".
Initiate a confrontation that leads to a scuffle and then kill you because I felt threatened? Riiight the kid was a UFC fighter you say? That effectively means I can start a fight with you then shoot you because I felt threatened.
I'm not interested in the racial element of this story but you better believe if you shot my son in my neighbors front yard and all he was carrying was a bag of skittles, you would not be seeing too many more sunrises.

Sharpton, Jesse Jackson et all are annoying but the gun rights nuts who are defending this guy just because he used a gun are just as annoying


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