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Braineack 04-03-2012 10:17 AM

the police report I linked notes zimmerman was bleeding from his nose and the back of his head when the officer arrived. It also notes he overheard zimmerman telling the emt team that he was yelling for help but no one came to his rescue.

It was Zimmerman's father and/or brother that reported the broken nose the next day. And then the media over the next few weeks that just leaked tons of trash and half-truths that blaen accepts as gospel.

Braineack 04-03-2012 10:41 AM

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Bias?

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1333464107

Prepare to hear the chilling 911 tapes frm #Trayvon Martin shooting. Neighborhood watchman stalks him shoots him down. Screams help! On @GMA

Petition for arrest of neighborhood watch "captain" who stalked, shot dead #Trayvon Martin now 200K. @ABC found police bungle investigation.




no. Blaen Gospel.

Scrappy Jack 04-03-2012 01:46 PM

If that Twitter info from the Good Morning America host is accurate and legitimate... Wow.


For less heinous coverage, here are links to two reasonably objective stories/articles:
Trayvon Martin’s shooting case draws partisan battle lines

Trayvon Martin investigation: What we don't know

blaen99 04-03-2012 11:44 PM

:yawn: Time to link the article I've been sitting on for awhile.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222930.ece

Sadly, no matter what happened, it's extremely likely that Zimmerman has nothing happen to him.

/End of thread? Who knows. But it's extremely unlikely that Zimmerman will lose the protection of the stand your ground law considering some of the outrageous past precedent.

Stein 04-04-2012 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 858564)
Sadly, no matter what happened, it's extremely likely that Zimmerman has nothing happen to him.

As it should be.

Braineack 04-04-2012 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 858564)


:yawn:

http://www.wiscnews.com/news/local/a...9bb2963f4.html

Scrappy Jack 04-04-2012 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by blaen99 (Post 858564)
:yawn: Time to link the article I've been sitting on for awhile.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...cle1222930.ece

Sadly, no matter what happened, it's extremely likely that Zimmerman has nothing happen to him.

/End of thread? Who knows. But it's extremely unlikely that Zimmerman will lose the protection of the stand your ground law considering some of the outrageous past precedent.

My problem with the narrative of that link regarding the Martin/Zimmerman case is the discussion of the "pursuit." Based on the 911 call, Zimmerman initially got out of his vehicle and chased Martin.

When the 911 operator told him to stop, he stopped. In fact, at one point, it seems that Zimmerman opted not to give the 911 operator his home address because he was concerned Martin was lurking in the shadows or darkness somewhere and might overhear it.


My understanding is that it is after Zimmerman appears to stop any pursuit and is waiting for the police to arrive that the alleged altercation happens.

While nuanced, I think that is distinctly different from the scenario being painted by many media outlets in which Zimmerman is supposed to have chased down and caught Martin.


All that said, I would agree that the "Stand Your Ground Law" is imperfect - but possibly less so than the "Duty to Retreat" laws that prosecute victims of violent crime. It would be curious but almost impossible to compare the two results.

Braineack 04-04-2012 09:25 AM

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no bias at all:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1333545931

hustler 04-04-2012 09:39 AM

"There is a non-white in my neighborhood, should I execute him?"
-Zimmerman

mgeoffriau 04-04-2012 09:45 AM

I'm surprised that this hasn't been blamed on the Jews yet, what with his name.

hustler 04-04-2012 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 858735)
I'm surprised that this hasn't been blamed on the Jews yet, what with his name.

I'm pretty sure I stated "XYZ zionist propaganda" earlier. Its my standard reply.

Braineack 04-04-2012 09:59 AM

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Braineack 04-04-2012 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 858735)
I'm surprised that this hasn't been blamed on the Jews yet, what with his name.


here's a nice blog comment for you:


http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/cb35c9f...6%3Fs%3D40&r=G
Alex March 30, 2012 at 10:39 pm
The leadership representing the family of Travon Martin, as well as the black people from media seemed to have already fallen for a major and consequential TRICK. They have been induced into focusing their attention on whether or not there was a fight between Travon and that JEW and whether that JEW was injured or not. This is a big mistake. The fact is, even if there was a fight, which it probably was, this would convey the STAND YOUR GROUND protection to Travon. He was the one being stalked by a stranger in the dark. He was the one confronted by a stranger in the dark. Remember, this law as written gives the right to any citizen to defend themselves from anyone who is attacking or threatening them with harm. The law does not allow for the departure of a safe area, only to go and STALK or CHASE after someone. The 911 recording makes it abundantly clear that Jew STALKED, PURSUED and ultimately CORNERED Travon. Question, WHY won’t these representatives refer to ZIMMERMAN,ZIMMERMAN,ZIMMERMAN as the JEW HE IS?

hustler 04-04-2012 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 858751)

lol @ 12-year old boy.

hustler 04-04-2012 10:11 AM

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I love this one:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1333548716
I really want a convicted felon representing, marketing, and perpetuating racism in response to media-charged bullshit.

The real crim in all of this will be the acquital and his subsequent murder. I can't wait for his retaliation killing to be over-looked by NBC, Sharpton, and Jackson.

Scrappy Jack 04-04-2012 10:30 AM

Hustler - You really should read through those tweets. My favorite is the one in which he explains to a young woman acquaintence the most probable reason for her recent break up.

+1 to Braineack if he can find and post a screenshot of the tweet in question.

Braineack 04-04-2012 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 858775)
+1 to Braineack if he can find and post a screenshot of the tweet in question.


https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1333550120

Scrappy Jack 04-04-2012 10:49 AM

That brings me to another subject...

Has there been any reasonable discussion in this case about the glorification of a lifestyle, attitude and style of dress that is inspired by prison culture and criminals? Or is that too much "blaming the victim?"

"Thug life."

thug
noun

1. a cruel or vicious ruffian, robber, or murderer.

2. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) one of a former group of professional robbers and murderers in India who strangled their victims.
"Gangsta"
gang·ster
noun

a member of a gang of criminals, especially a racketeer.

Imagine if a white guy with a shaved head, jeans, a white tank top and black Doc Martins with white laces was walking through a neighborhood at night. Would people negatively judge him on his clothes and appearance?

Braineack 04-04-2012 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 858788)
Or is that too much "blaming the victim?"

Pregnancy is a pre-exisiting condition.



How about: Where is the outrage for the 50 year old man beaten, in the same FL city, to a pulp with a hammer by two of Obama's sons?

hustler 04-04-2012 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 858775)
Hustler - You really should read through those tweets. My favorite is the one in which he explains to a young woman acquaintence the most probable reason for her recent break up.

+1 to Braineack if he can find and post a screenshot of the tweet in question.

I just read that Spike Lee and Rosanne Barr tweeted the address of the Zimmerman family. I suppose they want to be accessories to a murder.

I should also note that Spike Lee decided to tweet a random Zimmerman family name address, an incorrect one. Then, a bunch of uruly bastards went to that address and harassed the family to the extent they had to run away for safety.

Where the hell is law enforcement? Where are all the god damned tanks DHS buys for local law enforcement again?

Braineack 04-04-2012 10:53 AM

Spike Lee settled with the family of the wrong address he supplied. They are rich and happy now.

hustler 04-04-2012 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 858791)
Spike Lee settled with the family of the wrong address he supplied. They are rich and happy now.

This doesn't change the issue in regard to "intent" of Spike Lee. I'm sure that getting George Zimmerman's family killed will right the wrong of what happened to the 12-year old, innocent boy who was savagely murdered by a white supremacist.

Braineack 04-04-2012 11:05 AM

the DOJ would drop that case faster than you can you zip up your pedobear custome.

hustler 04-04-2012 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 858810)
the DOJ would drop that case faster than you can you zip up your pedobear custome.

Eric Holder would never, ever drop charges of ethnicly-driven inpropriety.

Braineack 04-04-2012 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 858814)
Eric Holder would never, ever drop charges of ethnicly-driven inpropriety.


thanks for the laugh.

Stein 04-04-2012 11:18 AM

So, would a hoodie with " I would kill for some Skittles right now" be a big seller?

Braineack 04-04-2012 11:20 AM

too soon.

blaen99 04-04-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 858790)
Where the hell is law enforcement? Where are all the god damned tanks DHS buys for local law enforcement again?

That isn't for us common rabble Hustly, don't you know?

viperormiata 04-04-2012 12:47 PM

So is there any evidence that what Zimmerman did was wrong?

Braineack 04-04-2012 12:49 PM

ask blaen.

gearhead_318 04-04-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 858788)
Imagine if a white guy with a shaved head, jeans, a white tank top and black Doc Martins with white laces was walking through a neighborhood at night. Would people negatively judge him on his clothes and appearance?

I would. Its not that I would necessarily think some guy dressed like that is a bad dude, but that manor of dress defiantly points to a cretin lifestyle.


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 858826)
So, would a hoodie with " I would kill for some Skittles right now" be a big seller?

The time is right, have some made and make some cash.


Originally Posted by viperormiata (Post 858882)
So is there any evidence that what Zimmerman did was wrong?

He might have had some bruises or lacerations on his head. Look at this pic:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1333559123

He might have a naturally messed up looking dome or maybe his hair is casting shadows or he has injuries. Hard to say for sure.

Braineack 04-04-2012 01:06 PM

who needs evidence when you have the lynch mob. southern VA justice baby.

MartinezA92 04-04-2012 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 858805)
This doesn't change the issue in regard to "intent" of Spike Lee. I'm sure that getting George Zimmerman's family killed will right the wrong of what happened to the 12-year old, innocent boy who was savagely murdered by a white supremacist.

When I heard about this I got ------- mad. And if anything had actually happened to Zimmerman's family, I would love to see Spike Lee sitting in jail.

The amount of ignorance surrounding this whole situation is mind boggling.

RattleTrap 04-05-2012 02:53 AM

Well. Apparently Rosie O'Donnel also 're-tweeted' Spike Lee's other Zimmerman's address.
Don't anybody screw up our chance to get rid o' her...



Originally Posted by MartinezA92 (Post 858904)
I would love to see Spike Lee sitting in jail.

The amount of ignorance surrounding this whole situation is mind boggling.

Couldn't

Agree

more.

hustler 04-05-2012 08:55 AM

Are things starting to came full circle in the media and is there new support for Zimmerman? I wonder if this could turn into a race war us Aryamehr could win?

Braineack 04-05-2012 08:57 AM

we dont have to worry about that, they'll kill themselves all off first and just blame us for the demise :)

Braineack 04-05-2012 10:04 AM

meida bias?


click these links and lets see---

benchmark:
http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid...w=1353&bih=743

About 158,000 results.


Now the test:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&a...pe=&as_rights=

http://find.politico.com/index.cfm?a...ers=&sort=date

http://find.politico.com/index.cfm?a...ers=&sort=date

http://find.politico.com/index.cfm?a...ers=&sort=date


One result: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...ff-119337.html


hmmmmm.....

Braineack 04-05-2012 10:11 AM

media bias?

News "report": What you are about to hear is strong language. Send your kids out of the room. You're about to hear a racist cold-blooded murder yell "------- coon" as he kills a 12 year old black kid in cold blood.

viewer discretion advised.






oh wait, he just said "cold."


our bad.

hustler 04-05-2012 10:39 AM

I like the idea that "coon" is supposedly more offensive than "----".

Braineack 04-05-2012 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 858814)
Eric Holder would never, ever drop charges of ethnicly-driven inpropriety.


did you ever read about this: http://abc.daytonsnewssource.com/sha...vid_6103.shtml

hustler 04-05-2012 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 859365)

Its nice to see the White House bring America together. Why isn't the NAACP outraged? I'm not black so I don't have a dog in the fight, but this is pretty offensive to blacks and if I were black I'd be really tempted to call the media for a press conference. If I were black I'd also be better at basketball since I'd have extra muscles in my legs.

Braineack 04-05-2012 11:42 AM

you didnt read :)


“The NAACP does not support individuals failing a test and then having the opportunity to be gainfully employed,” agreed Dayton NAACP President Derrick Foward.

hustler 04-05-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 859374)
you didnt read :)

uh...X?
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1333641075

Braineack 04-06-2012 11:28 AM

I give Piers props on this interview:


Opti 04-06-2012 11:54 PM

Liked the video, but its obvious the white dude is racist, otherwise he would never argue against the fact that trayvon was brutally murdered. /sarcasm

18psi 04-07-2012 02:42 AM

http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/g...aa685773bd.gif

RattleTrap 04-07-2012 05:11 PM

Michael Mann is a racist. The first crew-member killed in the bank robbery scene in 'Heat' was black.
Coincidence? I think not!

jeff_man 04-09-2012 01:54 PM

http://www.hulu.com/watch/347584/the...acist-time-out

shuiend 04-11-2012 07:17 AM

Found this quote on GS Elevator Gossip.

#1: My son doesn't look like George Zimmerman or Trayvon Martin. He looks like a kid in a Ralph Lauren ad.

Braineack 04-11-2012 01:07 PM

found this today:


Attorney General Eric Holder spoke at the annual convention of the National Action Network, the civil rights organization founded by Rev. Al Sharpton. He promised a fair and independent review of the Trayvon Martin case and action if necessary.
"the DOJ will conduct a thorough and independent review of the evideince. I can assure you, we will examine the facts and the law. if we find evidence of a potential federal civil rights crime, we will take action."




what's the opposite of cricital race theory?

gearhead_318 04-11-2012 01:11 PM

Y'all hear about the police car that got shot up in Zimmerman's neighborhood?

And that Zimmerman's attorneys left him?

Braineack 04-11-2012 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by Shearhead_3:16 (Post 862695)
Y'all hear about the police car that got shot up in Zimmerman's neighborhood?

And that Zimmerman's attorneys left him?


yes, and also zimmerman is MIA.

gearhead_318 04-11-2012 01:14 PM

I thought somebody spoke to him recently? Think somebody did vigilante justice-ing?

Braineack 04-11-2012 01:16 PM

and if so, will the DOJ investigate it?

hustler 04-11-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 862701)
and if so, will the DOJ investigate it?

Brb, calling Farakahn.

hustler 04-11-2012 01:28 PM

http://m.cbsnews.com/storysynopsis.r...catid=57412307

Lol @ calling a man with a bounty on his head, aired on national television, and celebrities posting you home address, with no law enforcement protection a "flight risk". Yeah, no ----. "Hey George, everyone on Earth wants to kill you, make sure and stay at home and don't leave. We wouldn't want someone like a bounty hundreds or a 'leaky' law enforcement agency to know your location."

Braineack 04-11-2012 01:42 PM

stop race-baiting.

Vashthestampede 04-11-2012 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 862719)
stop race-baiting.

......and the word of the day is!!??

I havent followed the story, mainly cause I dont give a ----, but I'm also way more interested in the story with the white guy that got the mob treatment.

Thats one of the things about computers and SOCIAL GARBAGE now a days. Even if you DO THE RIGHT THING, haters gonna hate. Some hate just a little more than others, thus, potentially going through lengths to hunt you the ---- down. Scary world I think.

Braineack 04-11-2012 03:14 PM

well, if the economy was a minority, Obama's white half would be guilty of a hate crime for the things he's done to it.

remember Obama is white blackican.

Braineack 04-11-2012 03:48 PM


Florida special prosecutor Angela Corey plans to announce as early as Wednesday afternoon that she is charging neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, according to a law enforcement official close to the investigation.

It was not immediately clear what charge Zimmerman will face.

Martin, 17 and unarmed, was shot and killed Feb. 26 by Zimmerman, who said he was acting in self-defense. Police in Sanford, Fla., where the shooting took place, did not charge Zimmerman, citing the state’s “stand your ground” law.

Corey told reporters Tuesday night that she would hold a news conference about the case within 72 hours. A news release from her office said the event will be held in Sanford or Jacksonville, Fla.

Benjamin Crump, who is representing the Martin family, said this week that Corey’s office had asked where Trayvon’s parents would be each day this week. They arrived Wednesday in Washington for a civil rights conference organized by the Rev. Al Sharpton, where they are scheduled to speak.

The announcement of a charge against Zimmerman would come a day after Zimmerman’s attorneys withdrew from the case, citing their inability to contact Zimmerman.

Lawyers Craig Sonner and Hal Uhrig on Tuesday expressed concern about Zimmerman’s emotional and physical well-being, saying he has taken actions without consulting them. They also said they do not know where Zimmerman is.

“You can stop looking in Florida,” Uhrig told reporters. “Look much further away than that.”
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