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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 01:12 PM
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I think we can all agree that turbo size and wheel design doesn't matter, because 20psi = 20psi no matter what turbo you run
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 01:15 PM
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thenuge26
I think we can all agree that turbo size and wheel design doesn't matter, because 20psi = 20psi no matter what turbo you run
I just threw my mouse across my cube.
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by thenuge26
I think we can all agree that turbo size and wheel design doesn't matter, because 20psi = 20psi no matter what turbo you run
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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well, obviously that's the case. The difference between the 2560 and EFR could be attributed to a little more humidity or a little lower ambient temperature on the two different dyno days.


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Is it possible the e cool wasn't working on the EFR run?
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 02:23 PM
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T-shirt idea:

20psi 20psi
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by stratosteve
Is it possible the e cool wasn't working on the EFR run?
impossibruuuu

otherwise they'd have to use inferior cooling, like an air/air intecooler
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 02:46 PM
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Paint the e cool injector(s) black for even more........wait, wrong thread.
Old Jun 18, 2014 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thenuge26
I think we can all agree that turbo size and wheel design doesn't matter, because 20psi = 20psi no matter what turbo you run
Originally Posted by Leafy
I just threw my mouse across my cube.
spit my coffee everywhere.
Old Jun 19, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by soviet
dude I made almost identical TQ and HP on same turbo (he is using 6258, and so was I, 2 years ago)

his:
http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/...9.jpg~original


Sure, my point/questions though:

1) Why aren't the 6258 cars romping on this particular 2560 car?

2) Why isn't the record breaking 2560 car mopping the floor with the 6258 cars now that is has a magical 6758?



Or did thenuge24 answer it?
Old Jun 19, 2014 | 05:48 PM
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Then there's this, just to **** everything up even more.

I don't even know what's real anymore.

https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...9/#post1141624


Originally Posted by 99mx5
I have an Artech ramhorm manifold with my EFR 6258. I made 315WHP @ 12PSI and 323WHP @ 14PSI on a Mustang dyno in El Paso, TX (approx 4000' elevation). I also have a 3" exhaust and 2.75" intercooler pipes with a Precision 600 intercooler. This a a mild steel manifold, not SS.

315WHP and 251TQ at around 12PSI (179kPa)


323WHP / 262WTQ @ 14 PSI


There was a problem with my manual boost controller in the second dyno. I could have made more power. I'm now running EBC.

Moar pics of manifold










Old Jun 19, 2014 | 09:19 PM
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Is that an axial flow compressor?
Old Aug 29, 2014 | 10:59 AM
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Maybe what he thought was a GT2560 was actually a GT2860?
Old Sep 1, 2014 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
Maybe what he thought was a GT2560 was actually a GT2860?
Or it could be the larger 2560, I believe I have one in my garage.
Old Sep 2, 2014 | 08:51 PM
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Well, this car is back to try to make m0ar power out of the EFR. We'll see. I am hopeful for the car's owner because I want nothing but success for him.
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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This just in: FM doesn't know how to read a compressor map. Whoa this 2560 makes just as much power as this other, better turbo when it's outside of it's efficiency range. WHOA
Old Sep 5, 2014 | 02:40 PM
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Well the EFR car came back with a new external gate (internal gate was sealed) and a 4" exhaust. It didn't make any more power than last time and still makes less power than the 2560 did.

The car's owner is going to go back through the motor and look for anything that can explain it.
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Old Sep 5, 2014 | 02:51 PM
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Can we see the new chart?
Old Sep 5, 2014 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben
Well the EFR car came back with a new external gate (internal gate was sealed) and a 4" exhaust. It didn't make any more power than last time and still makes less power than the 2560 did.

The car's owner is going to go back through the motor and look for anything that can explain it.
He didn't change anything other upgrading from a 2560?

LOL @ upgrading to 4" exhaust without first measuring backpressures.



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