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Old 08-29-2006, 02:11 PM   #41
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Oil feed: Follow the dipstick tube down the block. You'll notice two bolts in the block. the one that is lower and closer to the back of the engine is the oil feed. It is M10X1.5, you can use a metric to AN fitting or a banjo fitting and proper bolt.

BOV: If you don't have Cruise there is an unused vacuum fitting on the intake manifold, right at the throttle body. If you have crusie, you can use a vacuum TEE to get "signal" from anywhere on the INTAKE side.

Look around for people's greddy installs, this will answer most of your questions.
DOES this apply to the 1.8 as well, or do you haft to find another source for the oil feed on the 1.8
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As far as I know this doesn't apply on the 1.8 (maybe early 1.8) and a 1.6 crate engine.

For the 1.8 you have to Tee off the pressure sender on the opposite side of the engine.
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As far as I know this doesn't apply on the 1.8 (maybe early 1.8) and a 1.6 crate engine.

For the 1.8 you have to Tee off the pressure sender on the opposite side of the engine.
I have a 94, so the dip stick trick most likly would not apply to this. no
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Take a look and you'll see for sure. It's pretty obvious if you know where to look. I just used the dipstick as a point of refrence, there really is no trick to it.

This stuff is really well documented. If you are undertaking a turbo install you might want to do more research, and if you don't understand something come and ask. I don't think anyone is going to write a turbo install for dummies type deal, and really if you need that you might not want to take this on.
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No I don't need that...This is my first project that Im doing myself , so im just asking as many ?'s as I can Just so I can do everything right the first time...I just get a lil confused somtimes about certain things so I ask, As far as me as a miata owner Im first time owner, Im learning more and more about the car as I go along with the install, I have manuals and books on turbochargers and custom set-ups as well. If they had a book on how to turbocharge your miata that would be sweet and very helpful, but since they don't I can Only go on example so If I sound ignorent at times , bare with me
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Corky Bells book pretty much shows all the steps to install an Aerodyne kit on a miata. Or get some BEGi or FM install instructions.
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Old 08-29-2006, 03:27 PM   #47
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This stuff is really well documented. If you are undertaking a turbo install you might want to do more research, and if you don't understand something come and ask. I don't think anyone is going to write a turbo install for dummies type deal, and really if you need that you might not want to take this on.
Don't worry Rican... we'll keep asking dumb questions that have been asked before if we want. With 400 views and 45 posts in three days, I think Jay is probably the only person on the board who thinks we should quit now and throw in the towell. What a crap thing to write.

In fact, I think this entire thread is turning into a kind of "Install for Dummies". Just about the only thing I haven't asked or talked about yet is the tuning. And I will probably ask every single beginner dumb question about that as well even thought I've thoroughly researched... just to make sure I've got it right. In fact, maybe Philip will sticky this as the 180RWHP Install for Dummies.

Now lets knock this off and get back to how go fast.
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I can help with a 171hp for dummies, I can't seem to get past there!
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Corky Bells book pretty much shows all the steps to install an Aerodyne kit on a miata. Or get some BEGi or FM install instructions.
Oh really , what book is that If you don't mind me asking,He has more than one book does he not?
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Don't worry Rican... we'll keep asking dumb questions that have been asked before if we want. With 400 views and 45 posts in three days, I think Jay is probably the only person on the board who thinks we should quit now and throw in the towell. What a crap thing to write.

In fact, I think this entire thread is turning into a kind of "Install for Dummies". Just about the only thing I haven't asked or talked about yet is the tuning. And I will probably ask every single beginner dumb question about that as well even thought I've thoroughly researched... just to make sure I've got it right. In fact, maybe Philip will sticky this as the 180RWHP Install for Dummies.

Now lets knock this off and get back to how go fast.

Although We most Like-ly won't reach 180hp Right off the bat, but with a lil patience we can overcome that, we are two people (I know I am) that are actually falling through with our projects and starting them...there's probly alot of people in this and other forums claiming that they are starting a turbo project, asking ?'s And getting ansewers...but after that its rare that we hear from these people again and thats why the people that answer the ?'s are anoyed at times becuase they most likly have ansewerd the same ?'s more than once, I actually want ,(really want) To go through with this project..thats I why Im trying to update every now and then On progress. Always persue your goals, If you don't they are just simply meaningless thoughts!
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No I don't need that...This is my first project that Im doing myself , so im just asking as many ?'s as I can Just so I can do everything right the first time...I just get a lil confused somtimes about certain things so I ask, As far as me as a miata owner Im first time owner, Im learning more and more about the car as I go along with the install, I have manuals and books on turbochargers and custom set-ups as well. If they had a book on how to turbocharge your miata that would be sweet and very helpful, but since they don't I can Only go on example so If I sound ignorent at times , bare with me
Asking questions is good. But doing your own leg work is even better. That way you'll have a much larger information base to form your own conclusions.

When I decided to turbo my car I started reading like crazy. First Corky's book. Then I read EVERY thread here. Every thread that showed up searching for "greddy" on miata.net. Read the old greddy faqs, the information on that Jim guy's site. I didn't feel I could even start to under take installing FI on my car until I got as much info as possible. When I started I didn't really know the function of a wastegate or BOV and how they were different.

And I still came here and asked basic questions. But what I didn't do was ask people to do the leg work for me. Most of what you need to know is posted right here, all you have to do is read and read and read. You'll be able to ask better questions once you've done that.

I wasn't saying that anyone should give up on their project, but part of your project should be to learn as much as you can digest.
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WATER LINES:

there is a factory water line that FM?BEGI used on their kits on the 1.6.

looking at the front of the engine, specifically at the thermostat neck, there is a ~3/8" rubber line that runs from the right side of the neck to the block or waterpump. remove that line and run 3/8" coolant line to one coolant fitting on the turbo, run the other from the turbo to the other nipple the OEM line once spanned. that's it. the direction doesn't matter much (on the turbo). the only issue i had was the tight space between the BEGI mani and the left side of the turbo (looking from the front). ATP sells a banjo fitting that worked great. i couldn't get an -AN fitting to fit in there with the required adapter. look at the pictures of my turbo. the SR20 turbo will be configured in a VERY similar manner.

download these turbo pics to your computer.

now, the way i dressed my turbo is a little overkill, but the water fittings will need to be similar (you can use simple NPT brass hose barb fittings).
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Old 08-29-2006, 04:13 PM   #53
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Asking questions is good. But doing your own leg work is even better. That way you'll have a much larger information base to form your own conclusions.

When I decided to turbo my car I started reading like crazy. First Corky's book. Then I read EVERY thread here. Every thread that showed up searching for "greddy" on miata.net. Read the old greddy faqs, the information on that Jim guy's site. I didn't feel I could even start to under take installing FI on my car until I got as much info as possible. When I started I didn't really know the function of a wastegate or BOV and how they were different.

And I still came here and asked basic questions. But what I didn't do was ask people to do the leg work for me. Most of what you need to know is posted right here, all you have to do is read and read and read. You'll be able to ask better questions once you've done that.

I wasn't saying that anyone should give up on their project, but part of your project should be to learn as much as you can digest.
Hands on Is a very important part, I ask not for people the do the work for me, Instead I seek advice From those who have actually turbocharged their mazdas. I don't ask for decisions to be made for me, I seek information that will help in later decisions, In the end it's my time,blood,sweat,money, that will be going Into the build of my car, as it was for anyone else at a time where they were starting there own project...
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sam,

this might help a little. with a BEGI mani and downpipe, this is how a t25 would look from its mounted postion looking down from the top.
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Old 08-29-2006, 04:37 PM   #55
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found a turbo for good price If you are still intreasted in A SR turbo...check it out.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T25-T...23695004QQrdZ1
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KFJ, that is an awesome pic, I remember seeing it before. I searched through your past posts and can't find a pic of your complete install. How do you manage the compressor outlet as it points straight up into the hood? Wouldn't clocking it down like I want to do be easier to route to the IC?
Also, the routing of the water line was a concept I didn't grasp. For water TO/FROM the turbo, you simply splice the turbo into an existing line one-way line, not two lines. I now understand why the flow of the water doesn't matter.

I just looked through the garage trying to find a engine bay pic that really shows all the seperate lines and how they hook up. Check out sBrians engine bay here: https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/vb...do=view&id=678

I can clearly see how every line hooks up. The small red device attached to the front of the Valve Cover is the MBC, right?
The only lines I can't see are the oil and water lines to the turbo... but I can see the water lines here: on stripes car: https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/vb...do=view&id=370
I know there are enough good shots of the oil lines out there... back to searching.

Rican, I emailed that guy from the eBay link this morning to get him to email me additional pictures. I might end up buying that one. Thanks!

And with that, I reach my 50th post!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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doN'T worry about the Outlet pointing to the hood, there's plenty of room in the engine bay to get away with that, Im planing to run a u-bend of the inlet to the itercooler...should work.
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Samnavy,

Here is a bosch BOV on ebay. Should be able to snag this on the cheap. There is a blue one way check valve that you can JB weld to the outlet to prevent a leak at idle.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-VO...QQcmdZViewItem

Link to how to add the one way check valve: http://www.geocities.com/kilruf/bov.html

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Nice catch Brgracer
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Old 08-29-2006, 11:00 PM   #60
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Gredd...26868219QQrdZ1

Bid bid bid , try to win it...it's worth it, don't lose out on this discontinued bv , sam I would start bidding asap. and stay on top of it or you'll lose it
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