Told ya so?

 

I had the same problem with needing to recalibrate. If you connected the lc-1 to a computer and logged I bet you a dollar you would see a timing error. Upgrading to an alpha firmware that can be found with google fixed the issue for me.

 

Thanks for the tip, I'm gonna look it up now

 

Indeed the install looks bad. Run a direct 12 volt from the battery to the lc1.

 

Oh lordy I didn't get the wire to plug the lc1 to a computer. That's another missing item, and $12 :/

 

I'd rather not have him start posting about why his battery can't hold a charge.

 

Wrong. You want the power coming from the same E&H field as the ECU, with its inherent ground offset.

 

... and another thread no doubt.

 

 

LC-1 and 2 have this annoying feature where when they don't get 12v while warming up they freeze. Innovate says to run a relay to the battery to get the cleanest and most stable power possible. Ground to the ECU for a clean signal.

 

Never had that issue with my LC-1. Or maybe my **** just doesn't drop below 12v when cranking? (Unlikely.)

 

I get where you're coming from, however it's more important to do it right than what some idiot wrote as an app note.

 

voltage drops to like 9v when cranking. it doesn't matter if youre running a relay directly off the battery.

if you dont have at least 12v when warming up, then you have bigger issues than with your WBo2 wiring.

 

You might just be lucky. I found quite a few threads about it and it was an almost daily problem for me. Relay from the fuse box fixed it and I haven't had it since.

I had it wired off the ECU. And ran into issues.

 

You probably had it into a circuit that cut power entirely when cranking.

I can actually see my AFRs while cranking.

The AEM stepper motor boost gauges will never work right unless you have them into a source that doesn't cut during cranking.

 

the white/red wire is active during cranking [that would be silly if the ECU cut out during cranking]. but again, it drops below 10v during cranking on most cars.

the LC1 cuts out at 11.5v and below.

therefore: no afrs while cranking.

 

Yet another reason to avoid Innovate's widebands

 

I'd rather sacrifice being able to log AFRs on startup to get a full 7.35-24:1 AFR range in a full 5v sweep vs the coveted 10-18AFR range in only a 4.25v sweep and whose actual readings don't even match the published outputs which requires a lot effort just to get matching values in your EMS all on a big ugly integrated gauge with a refresh rate so slow it makes it hard to read.

A 10-18AFR range is especially useful for those running e85...

 

Is this where MT swings back to loving Innovate after the 12 months or so where MT officially loved the UEGOs?

****'s confusing to keep track of.

 

it never stopped loving it; we just have rogue members.