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Old 03-07-2016, 08:50 AM   #21
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Did anyone ever put together a ZM-DE in a Miata? I can find a few threads about it that are a few years old, but no closure.
I know ViperorMiata talked about it a bit. I have never seen it done though.
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:57 AM   #22
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Did anyone ever put together a ZM-DE in a Miata? I can find a few threads about it that are a few years old, but no closure.
IIRC it was Techsalvager who was bringing up the idea, so nuff said.
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IIRC it was Techsalvager who was bringing up the idea, so nuff said.
https://www.miataturbo.net/build-thr...e-build-62722/
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I knew I'd seen that thread. I just couldn't find it.
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you know what's easier?

miata 2001 engine | eBay
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last post from him in 2012. just wait guyths, he will deliver


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it revs too slow tho
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I have 2 of those in my garage. Of course it's easier.
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last post from him in 2012. just wait guyths, he will deliver




it revs too slow tho
The VVT actuator on the cam is added rotational mass. Means it accelerates slower.
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deal breaker: too much torque
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Grabbed this screenshot yesterday. His long comment at the bottom makes my brain hurt.


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megans: quality suspension broz
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That 600+ rwhp stock motor shop is also claiming the secret sauce is that they swap the engine management and harness to DSM eclipse/Talon and run DSMLink.

According to a local friend....
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Its been done before, but in no way would change your ability to make power safely.
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it's the jdm dsm secret sauce bro

it basically transforms into a 4BP63
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I don't really follow why you guys are hating on "BP Performance Specialty" so bad. Seems like they're doing some innovative stuff, and making crazy power on cheap builds. Everything they do is really interesting and impressive to me.

They share a lot of information about the builds, post a ton of dyno numbers, drag times/videos, pictures of exploded blocks, and cracked stock pistons. They're actively defining the limits of stock engine components and when they find those limits they upgrade the part that broke and do it again. I'm just not sure what we're supposed to be so butthurt about?
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I have no idea who/what you're talking about

But can you post up said dyno plots and track times?
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I have no idea who/what you're talking about

But can you post up said dyno plots and track times?
Didn't have much time (at work) but grabbed a few. All their videos are posted on facebook and I don't think you can link them outside facebook.
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Right click on video->view video url->copy video url->post video url->submit post
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Really, I hadn't heard. What size engine did the 2001 Miata come with?



In all seriousness, the ZM peaked my interest a few years ago for use in a NASA PT or SCCA STL application. It's 1.6l displacement but (apparently) with the VVT and port shapes of the later head. Sort of a neat frankenstein. Obviously garbage for street FI builds, but it (potentially) has its place.
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I don't really follow why you guys are hating on "BP Performance Specialty" so bad. Seems like they're doing some innovative stuff, and making crazy power on cheap builds. Everything they do is really interesting and impressive to me.

They share a lot of information about the builds, post a ton of dyno numbers, drag times/videos, pictures of exploded blocks, and cracked stock pistons. They're actively defining the limits of stock engine components and when they find those limits they upgrade the part that broke and do it again. I'm just not sure what we're supposed to be so butthurt about?
I dont think anybody is butthurt, if they're REALLY doing these things then God bless them. My thread was here to find the truth in the matter, and only made me more excited because I'm fully built from the valvetrain to the rotating assembly. As for reliability? Who knows man. I was reading stickies about how a high revving motor such as mine will be considered "reliable" if I get 100 race hours out of it. Considering it will be as road car more often than not, seeing people claiming 650 hp on stock motors makes me optimistic and skeptical at the same time.

Either way it doesn't make me regret having the motor built and scrapping the MSM 6spd idea.
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