Reverse Rice-ology (SlickAuto.net APR GTC-200 inside)
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At 30, it does nothing. Car acts as normal. At 80, it's a HUGE difference. There is one corner at Streets of Willow where my car would oversteer in 4th gear every lap. Adding the wing changed that oversteer into horrible understeer, to the point where all I did all day was reduce the wing angle to try and compensate.
Gompers, I have considered canards. They add a lot of drag for the downforce they produce, though. I am going to try an adjustable splitter, first 4" of lip, then 6" of lip, and see if I still want more.
Johnwag, I track on the 6ULs. I don't want to tear up the tires on the Advans.
I want to get a set of fresh NT-01s and a splitter and go back to try it. I ran 3 sessions and my best time all day was a 1:28.4, which I really wasn't happy with. I corded one of my RA-1s very badly, so I had to borrow two near-dead NT-01s from bellwilliam, who had taken them off because he had flatspotted them. In ONE lap, with two fresh tires on only the front, I dropped from that 1:28.4 to a 1:26.9. With 4 fresh tires and an undertray, I have no doubt my car could drop into the low 1:25 range, possibly 1:24s. The lap record right now for Miatas is 1:25.5, IIRC.
Gompers, I have considered canards. They add a lot of drag for the downforce they produce, though. I am going to try an adjustable splitter, first 4" of lip, then 6" of lip, and see if I still want more.
Johnwag, I track on the 6ULs. I don't want to tear up the tires on the Advans.
I want to get a set of fresh NT-01s and a splitter and go back to try it. I ran 3 sessions and my best time all day was a 1:28.4, which I really wasn't happy with. I corded one of my RA-1s very badly, so I had to borrow two near-dead NT-01s from bellwilliam, who had taken them off because he had flatspotted them. In ONE lap, with two fresh tires on only the front, I dropped from that 1:28.4 to a 1:26.9. With 4 fresh tires and an undertray, I have no doubt my car could drop into the low 1:25 range, possibly 1:24s. The lap record right now for Miatas is 1:25.5, IIRC.
I like it. Before Rappadan traded his car, I was trying to get him to give me his trunk lid with a huge spoiler bolted to it, so i could use for trackdays, much like i'll use my extractor hood.
i like it too. if it was only cheaper i'd probably get it lol
why not mount it to the rear quarter panels just next to the trunk lid? wouldn't that be more solid than to the trunk lid itself? (someone said something about stability of the wing on the trunk lid)
why not mount it to the rear quarter panels just next to the trunk lid? wouldn't that be more solid than to the trunk lid itself? (someone said something about stability of the wing on the trunk lid)
Yes... as long as you don't need to get into the trunk it should be a hassle. 
I think it would ok as mounted in the photo above as long as the decklid was solidly mounted (compressed) say with some hood pins.

I think it would ok as mounted in the photo above as long as the decklid was solidly mounted (compressed) say with some hood pins.
IIRC, I remember rappadan saying he had to reinforce the inside of his trunk lid as after track time it start warping the **** out of it due to sheer force on teh wing....probably could use some turnbuckles or something.
something like this: Longacre Racing Online -- Online Catalog
something like this: Longacre Racing Online -- Online Catalog
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why do I have a funny feeling that before all of this **** is over, I'm going to have a 2554 instead of the tater, a wing, and a bunch of other **** I swore off a long time ago?
Well, maybe that big turbo will be nice on the bigger tracks. If I get this job I just made the interview list for, my daily miata is about to become a stripper turbo-race car because I'll have the track membership to use it.
Well, maybe that big turbo will be nice on the bigger tracks. If I get this job I just made the interview list for, my daily miata is about to become a stripper turbo-race car because I'll have the track membership to use it.
why do I have a funny feeling that before all of this **** is over, I'm going to have a 2554 instead of the tater, a wing, and a bunch of other **** I swore off a long time ago?
Well, maybe that big turbo will be nice on the bigger tracks. If I get this job I just made the interview list for, my daily miata is about to become a stripper turbo-race car because I'll have the track membership to use it.
Well, maybe that big turbo will be nice on the bigger tracks. If I get this job I just made the interview list for, my daily miata is about to become a stripper turbo-race car because I'll have the track membership to use it.
Savington,
What company makes that monster huge low front dam for Miata's. It's a track piece. Huge thing they tested very well at the track. It was always pictured in primer gray on the car. Can't find it on the search but it had a thread maybe 6-8 months ago. Seems to me it was $200-300. Immediately thought of that one to compliment the wing. I should find a trunk to swap out for track days to run something like that too. Couldn't run it on the street without laughing at myself.
What company makes that monster huge low front dam for Miata's. It's a track piece. Huge thing they tested very well at the track. It was always pictured in primer gray on the car. Can't find it on the search but it had a thread maybe 6-8 months ago. Seems to me it was $200-300. Immediately thought of that one to compliment the wing. I should find a trunk to swap out for track days to run something like that too. Couldn't run it on the street without laughing at myself.
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Found these on cr.net. I know i was drooling for more pics of sav's car, especially in action.



note: these arent my pics, the thread i linked them from is ClubRoadster.net • View topic - Roadster Challenge Rd. 2 and Misc track day pix. [ Guest ]
Looking great sav, but +1 on a front splitter.



note: these arent my pics, the thread i linked them from is ClubRoadster.net • View topic - Roadster Challenge Rd. 2 and Misc track day pix. [ Guest ]
Looking great sav, but +1 on a front splitter.
yeah- that ISC piece would be easy to add a splitter too. And it's kicksass as-is. We saw a 3mph speed coming out of T1 at Rd. Atl. thanks to the immense amount of front end grip it added. But don't go off track with it or it'll take the front bumper with it.
Hustler FTW! That's the dam. $225 for a functional part isn't bad. Might help counter some of that new understeer from that godawful new wing.
Hustler, big wing, functional dam, 2860rs and your car will be a Monster at the track. With your built motor and a 2554, when you get tired of 250hp you will hate yourself. Stay 2860 and when you want more power you've got the breathing room. Man up and join the 300hp club! (I'm not a member but I'd sure like to be there)
Hustler, big wing, functional dam, 2860rs and your car will be a Monster at the track. With your built motor and a 2554, when you get tired of 250hp you will hate yourself. Stay 2860 and when you want more power you've got the breathing room. Man up and join the 300hp club! (I'm not a member but I'd sure like to be there)
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Yeah, I'd love to add the ISC air dam. Mabye. I need tires before my next track day so maybe I'll wait on the splitter until I have the ISC dam as well.
edit: lol, in the 2nd photo if you look really closely you can see how badly my left front tire is corded. There is a huge patch of metal cord in the middle of it.
edit: lol, in the 2nd photo if you look really closely you can see how badly my left front tire is corded. There is a huge patch of metal cord in the middle of it.







