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Old 05-17-2013, 05:28 PM   #241
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But dude...partials.
I didnt use the limits... i have them set as a low limit in case i cant lift it without a spotter. You see that's what limits are made for.. not for you to set the weight and take a rest between each rep. They are there as a safety feature in case you cant lift it. On a normal set you're suppose to get close to them but not set the weight on them. Your 3/4ths rack pull example is invalid.

The limits are set at 1" above my chest.

I edited my post since i thought by partials you were referring to the limiting braces, not "partial" as in a partial rep because of range.

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Partials as in partial reps. You're still way high off your chest.
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Partials as in partial reps. You're still way high off your chest.
Less than 2" look at the angle on my arm.
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It's more than 2" and still incomplete.
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It's more than 2" and still incomplete.
The rack limits are set at 1" and on one or two reps i bumped the limits on one end. Most noticeable on the 2nd rep of the first set.

Seeing that my elbows are at less than 90 degrees i'd say thats plenty of range.
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Old 05-17-2013, 06:28 PM   #246
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Josh - Relax. Consider the angle of the video. And the fact that Atanas was there. And the fact that he's had some pretty impressive relative (to his starting points) accomplishments.

At worst, it's a partial of 300+ pounds with a ~170lb body weight. Can you partial (in that general range of motion) 450+ pounds at a ~250lb body weight? I sure as **** can't partial 280+. I'd be lucky to get it off the rack.
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Consider the angle of the video.
The angle shows a huge gap between the bar and his chest. I'm not sure what you were trying to convey here.

I have no idea what I can partial. I do complete lifts with count-offs from chest to lock out. Full repetitions. I wasn't saying it's not impressive, just that I don't count it as a complete lift. The bar might as well be a mile high off his chest. Good job, tripple88a. Find a spotter next time, do a full repetition with a count-off and see what your PR is.

This is my 4 years of competitive lifting talking. Scrutinizing everything from arch to bench height, ankle movement, bar speed, leg drive, etc... It's been beaten into me and I can't stop seeing these things. It's like seeing a Ferrari with a scratch, lol.

Edit: Just don't ever post a c&j/****** video unless you really want to see me foam at the mouth.

Edit2: Atanas, what do you squat and deadlift? You could easily be competitive in events at your body weight. A quick google'n says there are tons of meets in Chicago.

Edit3: I think my PMS is being fueled by a recent day at the gym where I witnessed a guy "bounce" the bar off his chest, had help at the end, no lock out and got up and shouted "345 *****!"
The ******* bounce, noodle legs, uneven bar height, no bar speed, huge arch, *** off the bench, no lock out...****

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I dead lift 2-3 plates per side 15-18 going down to 12 reps by the 5-6 set.. I stopped doing heavy legs a while ago and i focus more on reps. For squats i do only 2 plates again 15-18 times. As of recent month and a half or two i started adding a lot of running.

I dont do this for a competition even though i use competition form here and there, i do it for my self for fun however since you mentioned competitions, for bench most competitions use 1 to 2 boards which are an inch thick, bounce from the chest is unacceptable.

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Any of you guys work with an ab wheel? Picked one up at the sporting goods store last night for $8, not really knowing what to expect.

Turns out that standing rollouts are frickin' difficult. Couldn't do one rep. Could barely maintain form just on the negative half. Will be working on kneeling rollouts for a while and then working up to a standing rollout.
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What? I already have bigger legs than most guys hitting the squat rack at the gym. I normally do throw calfs in on whatever my short work out day ends up being. And I've tried pretty much any combo of workouts you can think out for them, they balloon and start to get cut. If I could stop the ballooning, keep these tree stumps the size they are, and get cut in the thigh region I'd think about it.
Are you wearing skinny jeans?

Whats the circumference half way up your thigh?
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Are you wearing skinny jeans?

Whats the circumference half way up your thigh?

I can agree with him actually. Straight pants don't fit me if i buy the correct waist. I'm at a 31 exactly. 30 is tight, 32 is loose on the waist. 32 straight pants get very tight around my hamstrings and quads. :/

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Any of you guys work with an ab wheel? Picked one up at the sporting goods store last night for $8, not really knowing what to expect.

Turns out that standing rollouts are frickin' difficult. Couldn't do one rep. Could barely maintain form just on the negative half. Will be working on kneeling rollouts for a while and then working up to a standing rollout.
Last time i tried it i hated it. Not enough burn on the abs but too much on the arms. You know that **** where you lay on your back and put the weight back and then pull it forward over your head with your arms straight? Tends to work chest and some lats? Yeah the wheel is too much of that.

For abs i've been doing crunches with a rubber band.

Stick ur legs under something. Tie the rubberband to something behind you. Now take the rubber band and hold it on your shoulder and when you curl up you'll be stretching the rubber band. This way you get more pressure as you're crunching. Keep in mind this is OPPOSITE of using weight tucked to your chest. The difference is with weights, you get tons of resistance while u're laying back and then the weights actually help you once you get straight. The rubber band is opposite, low resistance when you're straight and then tons of resistance when you're curled.

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Are you wearing skinny jeans?

Whats the circumference half way up your thigh?
I wear loose fit. Single thigh circumference based is 25". It doesnt help pant fit that I have huge glutes.
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I can agree with him actually. Straight pants don't fit me if i buy the correct waist. I'm at a 31 exactly. 30 is tight, 32 is loose on the waist. 32 straight pants get very tight around my hamstrings and quads. :/



Last time i tried it i hated it. Not enough burn on the abs but too much on the arms. You know that **** where you lay on your back and put the weight back and then pull it forward over your head with your arms straight? Tends to work chest and some lats? Yeah the wheel is too much of that.

For abs i've been doing crunches with a rubber band.

Stick ur legs under something. Tie the rubberband to something behind you. Now take the rubber band and hold it on your shoulder and when you curl up you'll be stretching the rubber band. This way you get more pressure as you're crunching. Keep in mind this is OPPOSITE of using weight tucked to your chest. The difference is with weights, you get tons of resistance while u're laying back and then the weights actually help you once you get straight. The rubber band is opposite, low resistance when you're straight and then tons of resistance when you're curled.
What kind if stupid ab workout is that? Sorry not trying to put you down, but really find a better core workout.
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Ha did I seriously get negative props because I don't see a point in bodybuilding.
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Last time i tried it i hated it. Not enough burn on the abs but too much on the arms. You know that **** where you lay on your back and put the weight back and then pull it forward over your head with your arms straight? Tends to work chest and some lats? Yeah the wheel is too much of that.

For abs i've been doing crunches with a rubber band.
Meh, I'm not concerned about "targeting" any areas. I like compound exercises; that's the kind of stuff you do in real life.

For what it's worth, the rollouts got my abs and shoulders -- nothing noticeable for my arms.
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If you don't get a work out from an ab wheel, then you're doing it wrong. Seriously.

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Ha did I seriously get negative props because I don't see a point in bodybuilding.
You shouldn't have. I hate body building, personally. But it's a great way to help fix skin issues and add mass where you need it. Preferences for people.
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What kind if stupid ab workout is that? Sorry not trying to put you down, but really find a better core workout.
People like you are pretty funny. People that have never tried something but call it stupid just because they have no clue how it works. I used to do regular crunches and crunches with the ball and the plates and what not... So far this is a lot better than the alternatives. You see unless you do crunches with your feet vertically in the air you'll never get the same burn because ordinary crunches REMOVE weight when you're all the way up.
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What kind if stupid ab workout is that? Sorry not trying to put you down, but really find a better core workout.
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Ha did I seriously get negative props because I don't see a point in bodybuilding.
While I didn't give any props one way or the other, maybe it was because you were being a non-helpful, negative douche. If you are going to be critical, at least be more specific and suggest some alternatives that you think are better and what makes them better.
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I was going to try to explain it but its complicated, but Ill give it a shot.

Picture a v sit, except you keep your legs and back as close to the ground as you can without touching the ground. I then put a 15lb weight between my ankles. Well I rest it on top of them. I then will get a 20lb kettle bell and hold it with both my hands over my chest. From there I twist and extend the kettle bell as far to the right as I can. Basically extend it till your harms are straight. When you extend it you want to have it as close to the ground as you can, but don't touch the ground. Then bring it back to your chest. Do both sides like that.

I like it because I can up the weight easily and stick to my 5 reps. I also feel that it works my whole core and not just my upper abs. Also it's not one of those ab workouts that you have to do 20+ reps to feel anything.

The ab wheel seems cool, and I don't know how hard it is on knees, but I feel it would either be way to hard to even preform 1 rep or too easy that you end up doing high reps.

I see too many people doing 20+ rep ab workouts and I don't see why they are training their abs for a marathon. When I was picturing using the band, I was picturing it to still be fairly easy. I pictured it to still be a high rep workout. If not well that's great but I also feel it would only work a small portion of your core.

Now I hope that's clear, and hope my spelling and grammar didn't suck too bad.
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where the **** you people buy pants? JC Penney?

go get some real denim and get it fitted and tailored so you don't look like your mother.
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