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Old 11-18-2018, 08:49 AM
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Says it runs through two jets. But yea, no jet is going to go any faster than 120 or so.
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But I don't see where it's connected. Either way it's an abomination and totally worthy of this thread.

and since we're way off topic.
This is a proper turbine jet boat.
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Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
Says it runs through two jets. But yea, no jet is going to go any faster than 120 or so.
There's no way he actually hooked up a jet engine that big to the actual jet pumps in the boat. I don't know much about T-58's, but 1500shp sounds about right, which is why I know it's not hooked up to the 100'ish HP capable factory pumps. So for just the added thrust, maybe 1000lbs or so, should be a nice boost... something to talk about at the bar if you live through it.
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Yeah, see the absolutely awesome and massive roost in the video above at 2:45. That's a proper setup.
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https://chico.craigslist.org/cto/d/m...754201580.html






"91 Miata has 2014 tages but all fees are paid for have paperwork for proof just needs smog has jdm 1.6 smog legal greddy turbo chipped and tuned with mega squirt ecu clean title has 3 inch exhaust running off header but have full exhaust 3 inch pipe with cat for smog runs and drives pulls hard has boost leak from the header being cracked call or text for more info 5307647825"

This thing sounds like a pos, but if the tune doesn't look totally stupid and it doesn't seem blown up it might be worth offering like $2300 for. Even that might be a bit much I dunno. They've been trying to sell it for a month now for $3000. But uh, getting this thing smogged in California with that "smog legal greddy turbo kit" would be impossible unless you know somebody. Just by looking at that engine bay pic I can see 2-3 things that would make it fail.

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Originally Posted by pccd26
Just by looking at that engine bay pic I can see 2-3 things that would make it fail.
Having owned a turbo Miata in California, I see nothing at all under that hood which wouldn't make it fail.

The days of "knowing a guy" had already come to an end when I lived there, and my understanding is that it's gotten even more strict since then.

Pro tip: in California, the seller of a vehicle is required by law to provide the buyer with a valid smog inspection certificate dated within the past 90 days.

If someone is selling a car in CA, and they do not already have a certificate in hand, that's a pretty good clue the car is going to be unregisterable.
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that thing is barely worth $500. looks like it has extensive frame damage as well.
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Yeah it looks like it has been crashed into all kinds of stuff. That front end being a much brighter shade of white really makes you go hmmmmmmmm. Also what's going on with that roll-bar? Is cutting through the rear deck like that normal? But yeah I used to be a smog tech and if this thing rolled into the bay I'd just laugh, show the other mechanics, close the hood and back it out. Once a early 90's sentra se-r with a equally sketchy turbo setup rolled into the bay and that's exactly what we did. It was pretty quick though. And yeah the days of knowing somebody is basically over. A year ago when I was still smogging I heard a shop down in Redding would pass anything for like $250. No idea if they're still around, but probably not. The BAR is awfully good at finding out about stuff like that. Anyway this thing has just about every red flag ever. Probably would be a hoot to mess around with if you could get it for like, free, though.
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Not sure about how Cali does things but I heard that in VA they send your smog data directly to DMV and if it fails your registration is suspended. Don't quote me on that though. I'm in South Carolina where we dont have emissions. Catalytic converters? Is that one of them liberal mufflers y'all?
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You couldn't pay me to take that car.

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Originally Posted by L337TurboZ
Not sure about how Cali does things but I heard that in VA they send your smog data directly to DMV and if it fails your registration is suspended.
When I lived there, a failure didn't result in automatic suspension (you could repair and then re-test for so long as you still had time left on your current registration), but the computer at the shop did send its data directly to the BMV.

When I had the turbo '92 in San Diego, I basically returned the setup to stock for inspection. Not naturally-aspirated, but what a stock Greddy kit looks like. Had the CARB EO sticker on the firewall, and even had the RRFPR installed, albeit I'd gutted the internals so that it was just a pass-through. Removed the MBC, the intercooler, all of the bits that aren't on the EO paperwork. I did leave the nice 2.5" downpipe in place, as there was nothing remarkable-looking about it. Stock ignition coil as well.

I then took the car to a small, one-bay shop in a less-nice part of town, run by an old man who had a bunch of motorcycles parked in and around the shop. No funny-business (I didn't attempt to bribe him or anything), just scouted around until I found a shop that looked like it was run by a friendly car-guy.


That white monstrosity, by comparison... There's just no way in the world that is ever going to pass a CA visual inspection. I have to wonder if the kid knew this while he was in the process of building it.


And, yeah. Even if I lived in a state with no emissions inspections, I would not take that car if it was free and included a case of beer.
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Every now and then, I peruse AutoTrader to look at the market value of NDs in my area. Not that I have any immediate plans to replace my current car, more out of a sense of curiosity and the knowledge that it will inevitably die.

This past week, I found two postings (both from used-car dealers) which were just utterly baffling:


The first, a '93 automatic, listed at $2,900


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=499467948

Two things are stunning here.

First, they actually did the usual interior detail, sprayed shiny stuff on the top & tire sidewalls, exterior wash & wax (including under-hood), and generally all of the typical things that a dealer would do to a used car to make it look less horrible.

Except, of course, making even a token attempt to repair the crash damage. (I honestly wonder how / why this car ever found its way into the used-car auction system at all.)


The second was a bit further down the page, where it links you to "Similar Vehicles from this Dealer"




Ah, yes. A Porsche 911 is very similar to a Mazda Miata. I mean, they both have four wheels, right?

(Also, $50k? So far as I am aware, marijuana is still illegal in Illinois.)







Then there's this fine piece of work, listed at $3,500:


https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=500693924


Have I mentioned that this is in Chicago, not the backwoods of southern Georgia? I don't mean for that to sound insulting to Georgians (by birth, I am one of you), merely pointing out that we don't have a lot of swamps or mud trails here in the city.

With that kind of brutish stance, it's gotta be packing some serious heat, right?



Nope.

See the color of that radiator upper tank? Yeah, the first pebble which strikes the lower is gonna end the ride for that day.

(Also, I love how you can see the car with the broken wheel at the upper-left.)




Serious question: how the hell do vehicles like this wind up in the inventory of actual, licensed car dealers?



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Just a broken hubcap...
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...97203080922949


A quick google showed no similar astro van conversions. They were cut off after the door and looked like crap
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No ad here, because I already bought the item. Now Im Just here to brag.
in all its glory, an authentic, 1970 Bridgeport vice. I painted it retro gold with g2 epoxy paint.


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Lol, check out this ******' guy

https://chico.craigslist.org/cto/d/c...779834701.html

1987 Mercedes Benz 190D
VIN: WDBDB28D1HF350503
condition: good
cylinders: 5 cylinders
drive: rwd
fuel: diesel
odometer: 357890
size: mid-size
title status: clean
transmission: automatic
type: sedan












First, if you clicked here after searching for the words "turbo" and "diesel" and then expected to pick up something cheap that you could use to "roll coal" do us both a favor and hit the little back button in your browser.

What I have here for sale is a 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190D Turbodiesel, in taupe. It's the W201 "Compact Executive Chassis" and is equipped with the legendary 2.5 liter 5 cylinder OM602 diesel engine. This engine with the turbo was ONLY available in the W201 for one year (1987) and chances are you'll never see one again. A quick way to identify an 190D Turbo is the unique and fully functional cold air intake vent located in the passenger side fender, right behind the headlight. She's got a lot of miles, but if you know anything about Mercedes-Benz diesels this shouldn't deter you from this vehicle. If you would like to know a bit more about the W201 or the OM602, I've provided links at the bottom of this post for additional reading.

To get you in the proper headspace for a vehicle this epic, and to understand a bit more about design philosophy that surrounds this car, I'll refer you to this 1987 Mercedes-Benz documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3SFr7_LCIg Don't forget to watch part 2 as well!

No expense was spared during its production and that shows today in the quality of the materials and workmanship, even some 30+ years and 357,000+ miles down the road. Designed before finite element analysts and "value engineering" this car was not designed to be a disposable commodity, but to be a premium transportation option for discerning consumers. If your still reading and paying attention, then this car may be for you.

Initially purchased in Kansas in 1987, it stayed there until purchased by the second owner in 1991. As the owners family grew and moved around, it spent time in Montana, Arizona and finally Northern California. It changed hands several times after that stayed in that family until I purchased the car in August of this year. The previous owners used the car as a daily driver for quite a number of years, and later in its life to commute to and from Paradise (and later Chico) down to Oroville and back. The owners were very diligent and consistent about maintenance, and almost all work was done by local Ernst Mercedes Specialist in Paradise using genuine Mercedes OEM parts when available. For example, they had the oil changed like clockwork every 6 months, approximately 5,000 miles. How do I know this? Not because they told me, but because I have receipts. For literally everything. Thanks to the diligent efforts of said previous owner and family I have literally DECADES of maintenance receipts in a big folder.

Highlights from the maintenance history include:

243,535 - Transmission replaced (2008)
314,973 - Head gasket (2014)
319,739 - Timing chain & tensioner (2014)
325,191 - New tires, valve stems, balance & alignment (2015)
333,506 - New water pump (2016)
350,702 - New battery (2017)
357,600 - New heater core, heater valve, HVAC vacuum servos, cooling system flush & fill (2018)

I purchased this vehicle from the previous owners after the heater core split and dumped the contents of the cooling system into the interior as the previous owner was headed to work. The vehicle didn't overheat but it was one heck of a mess. Replacement of said heater core involved removing the entire dash and heater system, a process that I believe books at something like 14 hours of shop time, and that doesn't include cleaning coolant out of the carpet, underpad and dash. With current labor rates, the previous owners were looking at a substantial repair bill, one that did not make sense for a 30 year old car.

I had a friend who wanted it so I purchased the car, bypassed the leaking heater core, flushed the cooling system, changed the oil. then my friend changed their mind and bought a Honda. /sigh. Not knowing what else to do with this car, I proceeded to solo drive it 3,400 miles for an event called the 2018 Monterey Car Weeeeak Lemons Rally, because that seemed like a great idea! The Lemons Rally is not a race per se, but more a gathering of like minded car enthusiasts traveling in small groups along back roads and highways, competing against each other earning points for visiting unique predetermined locations set by the organizers. Think of it more like a poker run or a British gentleman's car tour rather than a cars flying through the air offroad rally. This event sent us from Seaside to San Pedro, then down to San Diego before two days in the desert via Yuma Arizona and the absolute middle of nowhere. The Rally then ran back to Santa Cruz and Seaside to close the loop in conjunction with the Concours d'Lemons Monterey. Even through insane 120°+ Death Valley temperatures and a grueling driving schedule, the car never overheated and never skipped a beat. I finished 18th in the Rally not due to lack of effort, but because my vehicle of choice was TOO nice, and TOO reliable. You don't earn points at this event for surviving the day unscathed and getting to your destination on time. You can read more about the Lemons Rally in the link provided below.

Post rally I disassembled the entire interior of the car, replaced the heater core and several other HVAC components, cleaned EVERYTHING, lubed as appropriate and reassembled it. I spent literally months of free time on this project, and I documented it all on the Instagram account @klienbraunerbenz that I set up for the rally. There you will find tons of addition pics, silly photos, and even a 47° cold start video. Flipping through that album you will start to get some idea of the work I put into cleaning this thing up. Link of course also provided below.

Vital statistics:
Ultra reliable Mercedes-Benz 2.5 liter 5 cylinder OM602 Turbodiesel engine
Automatic transmission
Power windows
Cruise control
Sunroof (stuck closed)
Massive trunk
40+ MPG highway
5 way power adjustable seats
Tinted windows
Kenwood single CD player w/removable face
Recently cleaned and conditioned leather seats
Antilock brakes
Airbags
Spare high security key
Registration good through October 2019 (a $160 value!)
NO SMOG EVER!
I have the stuff to do an oil and filter change, and I'll try to get it done before its sold.


Cons
Like many things in this world, the car is not perfect. It's exterior is starting to show its age with door dings, some fading, and many tiny rock chips. The sun roof doesn't open (but it also does not leak) and the power antenna is stuck. Cold starts are a bit rough until the glow plugs kick on, but I've never had a failure to start or stop. The vacuum operated door locks that worked perfectly throughout the summer have become somewhat hinky now that winter is upon us, and while the air conditioner works, it baaaaarely works. It was not enough to keep up with the extreme desert heat during the rally this summer and probably just needs a can of R-12, but good luck finding one. The seats are pretty firm and very "German" so are a little different that what you may be used to, unless of course you have a history with 80s Mercedes and BMWs.

I've enjoyed my time with this car, but I just don't drive it enough to justify another car. I had a friend who wanted it but then changed their mind at the last minute, so now you get a chance! This car needs a patient, adult owner who understands the peculiarities of older diesel engines, cold war era German cars, and is willing to put in the time and effort to keep it clean and well maintained. This is not a car that you leap into and drive away in the morning like everyone seems to do with modern fuel injected gasoline powered vehicles. You need to be willing to chill out for a solid 3-4 minutes in the morning while she warms up and sings you the song of her people. For example, this would not be good first car for an impatient teenager. This car does its best work cruising on the highway, and eats up miles like a chubby kid at pizza party. It does fine around town, but its geared to cruise rather than sit in stop and go traffic. She glides down the highway like a magnificent taupe shark.

The heater blows hot, the interior no longer smells like coolant, and the car is ready to find a new home. She's got good tires with plenty of tread left, doesn't leak fluids, has no rust, brakes feel good, and plenty enough power to get you where you need to go. I've got a clean title in my name, and registration is paid up to the end of October 2019.

If you think your up to the challenge of owning this type of vehicle, feel free to contact me and we can work out a time where you can experience its majesty yourself. I'm free pretty much all day every day up until January 2nd when I return to work from the holidays, and then I'm only free after 5pm. You can email, text or call but if I don't answer, please leave a voicemail message and I'll get back to you when I'm able. Please speak slowly and distinctly when repeating your call back number!


Additional reading:
https://www.instagram.com/klienbraunerbenz/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W201
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merced...z_OM602_engine
https://24hoursoflemons.com/lemons-rally/
2018 Monterey Car Weeeeeak Lemons Rally: The Winners! - Roadkill
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/wasapp/FeeCal...VehicleForm.do
I mean, who is this guy tryin' to fool?
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Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit
Now Im Just here to brag.
**** the vice, I'm jealous of the mill!
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Someone should definitely buy that benz^
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Why buy a brand new ND, when for the same money you could own a brand new 1.6 NA?

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1990 Mazda Miata Mx-5
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Even has the stock license plate bracket to destroy your paint! Sweet!
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