^This makes me feel way under informed but better now. Might be the new car for the wife in a year or 2. Or whenever they actually hits showrooms. Now to look up release dates. Need another toy like I need an STD tho

 

Ugly.

I hate this design **** (on a lot of new cars) with 48" tall doors with 6" of window. The ratio is all wrong and it makes it look like a ******* billboard.
I'm also past sick of this design cue of the "hidden" bumper look...you know, painting a large piece of it black to blen in with the front opening. It's terrible.

 

It looks like an RX-8 raped a 350Z in the shower.

 

When Your Powers Combine:

 

WANT

Haters gon hate, I think it looks great and to have a somewhat lightweight (compared to the rest of the lineup that is) rwd option in the subaru lineup is going to be pretty nice.

Also this competition with hyundai, nissan, etc over rwd "somewhat affordable sports cars" has the potential to end up with epicness for us. Hyundai is already uppping the power output of both their genesis models for next revision.

 

Last I heard Scion version was 197hp, 2877lbs which sounds a bit heavy to me.

I believe the Toyota and Subaru versions are basically identical outside of sheetmetal and bumpers, so I doubt the Subaru version would be 170lbs lighter.

Overall I think DO WANT, but the base Subaru version, not the faux STI version shown above. Sounds like the STI version for this car will be like the Mugen Si, all fluff no performance increase...

 

If the regular version looks identical I completely agree. No turbo no care, gimme the regular version.

 

I do believe the STI motor is drop in for the Toyota model also...

Same mounts all around.

 

I am a little disappointed that subaru and toyota didnt put more effort into differentiating between the two cars. Atleast make the subie turbo'd or something...its like rebadge engineering all over again, with different color options and a big spoiler on the back.

 

Aww, a baby GTR, how cute.

 

I'm not saying I don't want it. But it'll definitely need a tiny turbo for me to want one over a turbo genesis with the track pack. I think it's a good step in the right direction. People may actually start to realize that a good chassis and less power is better than a fwd car that has a million hp, shitty brakes, and no business in a corner.

 

I honestly think the Forte Koupe looks better...too bad it's FWFail.

 

which fwd car are you talking about? because the ms3 and the newer-ish cobalt ss had a million hp, really good brakes, and plenty of business in corners.

 

I'll take the scion with a boxer motor, plz. Not this confused mess of lines.

 

What everyone's feeling on the Abarth? Wrong wheel drive and all but, small, tossable, boosted, hatch. I know I'm not the only one that doesn't want or need a 4 door wagon. I like the Mazdaspeed 3 and so does the wife. If it was a 2 door I'd have one.

 

The Abarths we call sneezing meatballs here. The tip over quite easily when using the curbs a little...
Too tall and too small for my liking (even the lowered race versions). Mazda2 feels huge in comparison (that's a better hatch IMHO).

 

Don't get me wrong- the overall concept is refreshing. I just find it specifically annoying that this Joker-smile front grille design is becoming more and more common among what would otherwise be described as beautiful cars.

It'd be like giving Grace Park a Joan Rivers-style facelift.

 

Some people were suggesting that I wait and get one of these after a deer killed my wrx. They're pretty cool, and I could see myself driving one, but I ended up choosing a Miata because it made more sense for what I'll be doing with it.

On Nasioc, owning a Miata is almost a prerequisite for being a moderator.

 

Not sure about nazicock, but every other forester owner on sf.org has a miata lulz
gay roadster+lesbian wagon= thuper all around

 

I think the front end looks more like the LFA(unsurprising as toyota did the styling I think?) The rear with the quad tailpipes does look more GTR ish than STI.