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falcon 11-30-2011 11:32 AM

Pretty sure it started out with the FD RX7 back in 92 ^^

I had one and my head was barely above the door.

http://image.importtuner.com/f/27758...+side_view.jpg

9671111 11-30-2011 01:50 PM

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falcon 11-30-2011 01:55 PM

Without the wing, lowered on wide 16's would look boss I think.

mgeoffriau 11-30-2011 02:08 PM

Don't love the look, it's certainly not beautiful, but it works well enough.

Consider:

FD RX-7 -- 11.2 lbs/hp (2830 lbs/252 bhp)

BRZ -- 13.4 lbs/hp (2689 lbs/200 bhp)

So we have a sports car that weighs less than an FD, with not quite as much oomph, but also won't blow up at 60k miles, either.

Not convinced yet?

In 1993 the RX-7 had a base price of $32,900, which adjusted for inflation would cost you around $49,000 today. The BRZ is expected to hit the market around $25,000.

90% of a stock FD's performance, with a motor that doesn't blow up, for half the cost? Yes please.

gearhead_318 11-30-2011 02:09 PM

In for LSx swap.

Efini~FC3S 11-30-2011 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 800824)
In for LSx swap.

HAHA, not sure if it will fit. I mean of course it will, they always do. But that would ruin the low center of gravity. Did we mention it has low center of gravity. Boxer engine placed low in engine bay makes for low center of gravity.

Gravity

Center

is

Low

(go read the press release...)

I think 245s on 17x9" wheels will look and fit just right on this.

You think the bolt pattern is stupid 5x100? Or did they man up and use 5x114?

chpmnsws6 11-30-2011 05:22 PM

LS ruins nothing. If the LS doesn't fit, the chassis was built incorrectly.

End of story.

Vashthestampede 11-30-2011 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by rccote (Post 800810)
Honestly, it's not that bad looking. It's growing on me now that I see how miata-like it is. Looks like they took a miata, made the styling more aggressive and gave it a fastback. Then threw in a boxer motor because well shit, who wouldn't think that's neat.

I feel like I'm going to need one of these one day.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1322679010

Pretty much took the words out of my mouth.

I think this is something I'm going to work extra hard for. I want one of these, but I agree it needs some aftermarket help. Great updated platform to work with though, I think.

Seefo 11-30-2011 06:25 PM

I am hesitant, perhaps its just because I can't get the Scion image out of my head. or perhaps because neither of these companies are well known for making great handling cars (some STi gens. are an exception), but I can't really make any claims until I get into it and drive it.

At this point, the styling is really disappointing from the concept. The whole car is angular and shapely, then they changed the concept lights to these rounded funky things that came out of an 04 STi and it messed it all up for me.

Faeflora 11-30-2011 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by chpmnsws6 (Post 800890)
LS ruins nothing. If the LS doesn't fit, the chassis was built incorrectly.

End of story.

Hahaha

Now that I see it's the size of a NC I like it. Yay.

gearhead_318 11-30-2011 10:03 PM

I'll have to see what the after market brings for this car, but right now I don't know if I'd go for a BRZ over an NC or not.

New "Spy" shots of the FR-S:

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/as...539681ddcc.jpg

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets...b4c572d702.jpg

I like it more then I thought I would.

chpmnsws6 11-30-2011 11:10 PM

The back of that FR-S looks like a cheap Aston Martin.

gearhead_318 12-01-2011 12:18 AM

^Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

The several houndred million dollar question is, would you buy one new over one of these?
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2531/4...8ac_z.jpg?zz=1

viperormiata 12-01-2011 01:19 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 800822)
Not convinced yet?

No. The car is ugly as fuck.

cardriverx 12-01-2011 01:46 AM

http://jalopnik.com/5864045/scion-fr...os-and-details

This will be for sale right before I get out of college... wooo

gearhead_318 12-01-2011 02:53 AM

Blue or Black BRZ = Want


Skip to 2:25 and you can hear the exhaust.

Scrappy Jack 12-01-2011 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Gearhead_318 (Post 801024)
The several houndred million dollar question is, would you buy one new over one of these?

Because you think Miatas are "gay."
Because you want to carry your tools and track wheels/tires in the car without dealing with a trailer.
Because you don't like convertibles.
Because an NC PRHT can push $30k.

Those are a few reasons off the top of my head why people might make that choice. :)

Efini~FC3S 12-01-2011 08:18 AM

Because boxer motor enables low center of gravity
Because it has a lower center of gravity than a Ferrari

BECAUSE RACECAR

falcon 12-01-2011 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack (Post 801060)
Because you think Miatas are "gay."
Because you want to carry your tools and track wheels/tires in the car without dealing with a trailer.
Because you don't like convertibles.
Because an NC PRHT can push $30k.

Those are a few reasons off the top of my head why people might make that choice. :)

Pretty sure you're still going to have problems bring wheels in the car, based on it's comparable size to the NC.

I think this car would be really fun on the track too with a build N/A flat 6 :giggle:

falcon 12-01-2011 09:41 AM

Food for though....


S2000: 237hp, 162tq, 2864lbs = 12.08 lbs per hp
ITR: 195hp, 130tq, 2639lbs = 13.53
RSX-S: 201hp, 140tq, 2840lbs = 14.13
Civic SI: 201hp, 170tq, 2877lbs = 14.31
GT86/BRZ: 197hp, 151tq, 2822lbs = 14.32
NC MX5: 167hp, 140tq, 2511lbs = 15.04
NB MX5: 142hp, 125tq, 2441lbs = 17.19
NA MX5: 133hp, 114tq, 2293lbs = 17.24


I'm more interested at this point learning what kind of suspension design it utilizes. Here's hoping for double wishbone all around...


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