yesss!!!! +25hp!!!!

 

Initial reports say AT LEAST 40

 

I saw a few at Coffee and Cars two weeks ago. Def smaller that most modern cars but I just dont see what the big huff is all about. Maybe I just dont get it. Or maybe it is just all the fanboys around the car.

I'm more interested in the new ford focus ST or even a mazda 2.

 

focus ST is on my to buy list.

 

20 years from now, right?

 

in the next 6months or so they'll be either a ford st, ms3, or wrx in my driveway.

 

so you are going to finally unass some of that money you've been saving?

 

You don't get it for the same reason I don't get a Focus ST or Mazda 2? Just different priorities and that's okay.

 

I've been thinking about this for a day or so. I think, if the price was decent, I'd get one. It all comes down to what 18psi said about it being small, light and RWD.

I had a 1981 Toyota Celica. ST model notchback. It was small, had a 4 banger (the famous 22R) and a 5 speed. If you looked at the numbers, it was nothing special. Not great in any area. But, if you flogged it, it was really a fun car. You had to beat the hell out of it, but it was built so rugedly, that it took it with no issues. I regularly ran circles around friend's "better" cars. I kept up with cars that should have been able to lose me in the dust, but I could take that car right to the edge and stick with them. It was predictable as hell, so you knew exacly where the limits were. Acceleration, beaking and skidpad numbers were all pretty middle of the road, but as a package, it worked well.

If this car is anything at all like that one, it will be the same thing. I'd buy that Celica in a heartbeat. I'm hoping that this, if not the same, inspires other makers to get back into small, fun RWD cars.

 

Saw the white BRZ at mid ohio a couple of weekends ago.

I thought the car looked much better in person than internetz photos. Actually, I thought it looked pretty good in person.

I have trouble understanding all of the hate these cars are illiciting. Good straight line speed or not, it seems like the automotive enthusiast world as a whole should be happy OEMs are willing to make a car like this.

If I were going to buy a brand new car for $25k I would very seriously consider the BRZ. Then again, you can get a v10 M5 for similar moniez...

 

If the miata didn't exist, I'd totally rock one. But now, I do own a turbo miata, no need for a BRZ.

 

Maybe that is why I am not all excited about this car. I've had something like this for the past 13/14 years.

 

+1

Fair enough, I'll give you this much.

 

would want if they got more power out of it. same thing as the scion fr-s

 

then again, they did make a 600hp drift version, and though im not much for drift it certainly shows the potential. bad to the bone. i think that was just the scion fr-s platform though (again, same thing though)

 

The drift car had a different engine.

 

Focus ST is the only decent choice for the wife. She plans on being a private chef. Needs the space and power. Well the power is for her lead foot. Grown to not like the Smiley face MS3.

 

Focus st is a fail... Same with the ms3.... Awd is mandatory if you aren't rwd....

New Taurus sho looks interesting though....

But yeah the price is steep for all of those cars IMO.

 

Saw a BRZ run at an autox this weekend. It ran in STX with some 17x8 RPF1s and 235 Z1s. It looked pretty good out there and put up a reasonable time. No idea on the driver but he seemed decent, mid-pack maybe? The car was running mid-pack all stock with some tires.

I want one :-\

 

it would be a daily driver for me...what do i need rwd for? I have to deal with snow and rain here, so I need something that can drive year round when the miata is parked. Of course I'd prefer the AWD of the wrx, but the subbie is at least 5K more for older/more mileage options compared to the ms3. Plus if the Ford ST gets the gas mileage they say it will get, then it's a no brainer compared to the MS3.

we are talking 18/23 (wrx and ms3) vs possibly 30/40.

Plus as a women's clothing designer, I need the extra space to put all my designs in when I go to shows.