That looks like the first lap of the Spanish GP but without the flip.

Wow, epic ND cup fail at Watkins. What license is required for that series again?

Woooowwww that silver and orange one... What the hell was he thinking?? Pretended like he was the only one on track.

god its like the assholes in the fast line in the highway, you give them one little love tap and they swerve all over the damn road...

There is some horrendous driving in this race. Like, who gave these DE3 comp licenses type of driving.

go to 1.04:37 in video 1, link is being annoying
start at 24:57
start at 54:14

Pretty sure the entry criteria for this series is money. Most series are that way really.

crazy. they must have money if they are blocking so hard they take themselves out of a race...

No doubt money can get you where you want to go- even if it's a pro racing license. You'd think some of that money would be spent on an improved video potato.
Like this one- better in every way.

wooowww they're pushing soooo soo hard. That first video was impressive, then so frustrating and stupid. Wow. Dirtiest racing this side of mudbogging.

RE micras:

talk about threading a needle.

Or perhaps just a smidgeon of editing... why is there 20 minutes of video of him parked in the paddock?
Also, what is the purpose of the 30 minutes of warmup before the race actually started? (from the editing perspective but I also don't know why so much driving before racing...)

p.p.s. did that video just go private while I was writing this?

This video makes my head hurt too.

Maybe if he'd had better headlamps, he could have seen that wall coming:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463632033

Lol that video is of guys that are local to me... they've totaled so many Miatas like that between their little group of people.

@hi_im_sean see if you can figure it out.

Drifting* from the track-only theme for a moment.

Seriously? Six months plus probation for killing 5 people?


* = pun wasn't originally noticed until after I wrote that.

Afluenza is a hell of a sickness.

Wow. Just wow.

Joe, I don't know how it is in NY, but in SC and Ga, motorists who kill cyclist (not while drifitng or drag racing, I'll admit) typically are charged with Driving too fast for conditions, and get zero jail time. If driver is drunk, more serious charges are filed.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463779494

In NYC, it depends upon the circumstances. And it's important to understand that there's a sort of hierarchy here in the Court of Public Opinion.

At the very top are pedestrians. Despite the fact that nobody in NYC pays any attention to things like crosswalks or "do not walk" signs, most New Yorkers do not drive, and thus, hold pedestrians to be faultless and above reproach. If a driver hits a pedestrian and kills them (which happens often), then they're going to have a bad time.

Next are ordinary drivers. Not much to say here. Hit a pedestrian? Sucks for you. Hit another car? Sucks for them- move along.

Then you have cyclists. Despite the fact that there are tons of us, the fact that cyclists hold the same respect for things like red lights and "one way" signs that ultra-liberal politicians hold for the constitution means that most New Yorkers hate bikes. (I think there's also an element of jealously- bikes are, by far, the fastest and most efficient way of getting around the city.) Unless the cyclist was clearly riding in a marked bike lane and obeying traffic laws, it's a bit of a toss-up. If there's strong evidence that the driver was doing something idiotic, then they'll face retribution. Otherwise, there's simply an understanding that when you get on a bike, you're entering the Thunderdome. You're gonna get doored from time to time, and you just hope that you ride away from it intact.

Truck drivers come next. They're not evil per se, they just don't care. And yet they are a necessary devil to embrace. People get that.

Then, at the very bottom rung, are cab drivers. Everyone hates cab drivers, including bicyclists. The penalty for a cab driver doing pretty much anything is death, followed by the public desecration of the corpse.


Municipal drivers (busses, street-sweepers, police cars, trains which share right-of-way with traffic, etc) fall outside of the continuum, as a result of strong union protection. The city pays a judgement, and life goes on for the people who are still alive.

lololololol

Those fuking guys. When I bought my driveshaft from them, they had an NA with a supercharger and an FMU, installed in ricer fashion. No intercooler, wires everywhere, stock everything, just a mess. Anyway, they had it strapped to a palm tree by its pushed in core support with a tow strap, rolling it back and forth.

This is Brandon's current ride-
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1463845941

#driftarmy

Accurate summary. As a NYC bicyclist, I fucking hate NYC bicyclists. I put a couple thousand miles on my bike last year going to work and grad school. Many close calls with taxis, especially those turning left to cross protected bike lanes. The only time I was actually ejected from my bike though, was when another cyclist ran a red light trying to cross 1st Ave in the east village and I T-Boned him. Fucking bikes... *puts on helmet*. (Actually, been riding my SV more often these days.)

Video from my friend at TNiA on friday.



Passed without a point by, after the passing zone.

What a doucher :squint:

Car had a rental barcode on the top of the windshield.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464026035

Hahahahaha!!!!

I have confirmed it is a rental car from a license plate search. No company info though. lololol.

And a story that I sadly did not video. Same track night.

Porsche Caymn GT4 with an Asian who got off the boat yesterday. Got black flagged and pulled over to track right on the front straight and stopped. Everyone at the point was screaming and yelling for him to keep going. After many hand gestures he starts going again. Black flag shows for him the next time around. Slows to a stop...IN THE RUNOUT OF TURN 12 AGAINST THE WALL. They couldn't get him off the track. Everytime he got black flagged he would just stop on track. They had to let him finish the session. And then he was asked to leave.

What a tool. So funny to see his car disassemble itself and the battery go flying and everything.

I like how he looks to blame the guy in front. As if he were responsible for not tightening the lug nuts...or the battery. Who the hell is running the tech inspection at these events?

Other drifters.

Popped up on Facebook today. Best rollbar I've seen yet. Fail in every aspect.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464886271

^^ You'd think that after saving all that money he would have spent on a proper rollbar he could have at least afforded some padding. :facepalm:



https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1464973208

Airborne Miata during qualifying at Watkins Glen. I'm told that the car was being rented. My take is that the Miata driver knew of the bimmer close to him, and gave him room on inside to pass. Then realized that the car actually went to the outside, got spooked, and steered inside, completely unaware that there was another car coming up behind him. It's a dicey pass attempt by the camera car, but poor driving by the Miata driver in general. That's my take anyway, I'm happy to hear other people's thoughts.

herd he suffered a broken pelvis.

He got "launched" by the curbing, as he was already airborne when he hit the safety barrier.

Same thing happened to me at Rd. ATL T12. Guy went backwards into the wall just past the starter stand. Later came up to me and explained that he was once a newb too and understood my mistake. wtf :cjerk: Then went on to explain he'd just repaired his car from a crash last race.

Deciding to go three wide in a high speed corner. Not only three wide, but two faster cars overtaking a slower one in the center. Not smart driving IMO The camera car knew damn well that the Miata probably had no idea he was closing in. I've learned on a motorcycle, that passing has risk. Rushing a pass in an unsafe area often has consequences.

that miata was heading into the curbing regardless; camera car slowed him down.

I think your right. You can see a puff of smoke from the tires. He was losing it.

I agree, mid corner is not the time to assert your claim to the inside of the track. I learned that lesson last year at Barber in the big sweeper when I was following two cars racing. One car steps off line so I decided to stick my nose in only to get chopped down on. Luckily it was only minor contact and we both continued on. Now I just try to be patient and let events unfold in front or find a safer place to pass.

^ That's just retarded. No other way to put it.

Here we catch a rare glimpse at the mating dance of the endangered spotted Porsche:

click to play

Camaro dragstrip crash ~ 200 mph
 

He claims he hit the brakes and it swerved.

It looked to me that he was holding the steering wheels loosely, and if he'd stopped the wheel turning right he wouldn't have crashed (3rd vid):

Here's What Happens When Your Camaro Gets Sideways At 195 MPH

you know we have a thread for bad driving videos right?

limp-wristed the steering, not enough room to actually slow down, not enough safety equipment for how fast that car was.

he lifts and hits the brakes at 200mph and takes his hand off the wheel and looks like he even shifts (another very poor shift) and completely upsets the balance of the car that cant even do straight well.

chutes are for pussies.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...2f29aa5692.jpg

Car steered violently when passenger passed out? ;)
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ac00e4b89b.jpg

Well, I'm going to be generous and assume the driver was still delirious when he got out of the car, because he made zero effort to rescue, or at least oversee, the rescue of his passenger. Under his own power, he just walks away from the car, still on his own feet, and makes no attempt, let alone gesture, to return to aide his "buddy for life". It just defies my every instinct. :facepalm:

.02

These guys decided to go with G-Force (budget) harnesses, improper mounting for those harnesses (the seats without pass through holes for the harnesses), no full cage (a shitty thin tubed half cage at that) and NO FUCKING HANS?!?!?!?!?!!

It's a miracle these fools didn't lose their lives.

Land speed cars going slower speeds over longer distance have better safety equipment than this car. Hell our Chump Car that doesn't see over 115 has to have a full cage. Shiiiit boys, lets go 70% faster will nothing but crappily installed harnesses and a roll bar.

Please elaborate on this. I work in the textile industry, testing in particular. I've only held a couple different belts in my hands, and haven't done any in depth research as to the construction and materials used. US made mill spec materials always test better than others, with the exception of one European manufacturer. Nylon is the preferred webb material. Good strength to weight ratio, but need expensive chemical treatments to resist UV rays. They all use what I think is an incorrect stitch pattern. Metal components have the same susceptibilites as the textile webbing.

What difference have you guys seen or know of, regarding the quality difference in the various manufacturers belts? I might need to dig way into this...

If anyone has old belts they would like to donate to science, I can test for things like stretch, cycle load and ultimate strength.

I have an old Y shouldered harness I can send you Ryan.

G-force may be well and good, I can't say as I don't have experience with their belts. In their defense, they do hold certification.

That being said, you would like a car with this much power and this much money put into it would be utilizing a professional race tested belt, such as Schroth or Sabelt. Sabelt was used in one of the most demanding racing classed, F1, for quite a long time. That for me allows me to put a lot of trust in the manufacturer. I would rather crash in my 200mph+ car with a manufacturer with race heritage rather than a budget belt, even with FIA certification.


On another note, second video this week (after the Camaro) that a stupidly fast car is pathetically under equipped with safety equipment. This idiot is running a 200+mph car with stock safety stuff and what looks like no roll cage whatsoever.

http://jalopnik.com/this-is-what-it-...t-r-1784524970

So you aren't actually speaking from any personal knowledge, inspection or testing. Thank you for this. Opinions are like, well, you know...

F1 racing, isn't it rife with money infused politics? I could be wrong.

Every form of racing seems to have a following of certain brands. Coming from off road racing, you don't see Sabelt often, if ever. Can't imagine many other motorsports where the vehicle runs on the brink of disaster at 150mph. For hours at a time.

I was looking for actual proof and or experience. I have the ability to test said budget and high end pieces, but not the money to buy the specimens.

So the question after installing all the go fast goodies and safety equipment (whatever that may be) and before atempting to drive at 200+ mph is: does this car produse lift or downforse at that speed and how much... A quick google search say that an ss camaro produces 200 lbs of lift at 150mph, it apears that this car could not keep traction at full throttle at near 200 mph over ondulations of the runway etc. it seems like a pretty basic thing to ask your self

Well that's pretty insightful, and sadly, I'm not sure I would have thought of that. Today Miata Turbo.net made me more esmart. Thank you for that.

Dont feel bad about it, look at what hapened At Le Mans a few years ago, aero is a big thing at speed, i worked at a wind tunel testing cars for Ford and it was a always a fineline between drag and downforce

The Mercedes CLR also had terrible backflip issues as well in the 1999 LM. I believe multiple of these cars flipped during Lemans to the point the Merc had to pull the cars.