Wanted to try a new shortcut.

Didn't work.

Also, see the shifter falling out lol.

yeah i saw that. :)

Trackside fix.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1459662664

That looked pretty normal to me (i.e., I do that at least once a day at the track -- you don't get faster if you don't experiment). But stopping in the grass? Nah, keep it rolling if you can. In the dry season, that equals fire.

What made your shifter come out? Strange.

Couldn't get it in gear with the shifter, thats why I stopped.

Bolts were too short and stripped the threads out.

Are these stripped bolts from the miataroadster kit?

Not sure. I got the kit second hand. But I would encourage anyone who has one to check.

Coming up: some poor track driving, and red mist driving on my behalf. Also poor filming (and shitty vertical video) because I had the camera mounted sideways to my helmet.

Asshole.

Yes, I realize now why the M4 was so slow to give the point by, since the 911 should have given him the point by much sooner. I was still mad at the M4. I should have pitted and asked for space.

I did approach the 911 driver after this session and asked him if he saw the passing flag. He said he never saw it... It was waved at him at least 4 times. At that point I did go to the organizer simply because it's one thing if you're just being a dick and not giving point by's... it's another thing entirely if you're completely oblivious to the flaggers.

Fun starts around 5:30.

You know I have one of those steering column covers from a MSM...

this is when i honk and flash lights.

Yup. Ed got the point by for one reason, he filled his mirrors. I know the M4 owner. That car would walk over all of ours with the right driver, however the owner is a decent driver albeit a little timid. He was staying way too far back.

Was that directed at me?

Old video but good ilustration of what i do, I get close or next to them, turn on the head lights and that usually works. I also let slightly slower guys with less hp (better drivers than me in the spec miata) pass me to learn their lines and break points, its like having an instructor ryding along
Check out this video on YouTube:

I was flashing my brights at them coming out of every corner onto passing straights. For multiple consecutive laps.

Got to move to the advanced group, looks like the Porsche guy was on sensory overload LOL

I did intermediate that day because it was my first time that direction at ORP. But from here on out, if I've done a day at the track before and Advanced is still point-by passing only, I'll do advanced. Not ready for open passing.

We don't have good lane dicipline in the US, people just don't look in the mirror much and often sit in the fast lane for miles on the higway and the same goes for the track , i run the Nürburging for 1.5 hrs last summer and only got hang up once by a biker, the bad drivers at the ring just crash LOL

My biggest issue with filling mirrors is a lot of these people can be very inconsistent on track. Braking too early, at different places every turn, random braking because they don't know where to go. When I'm on someones ass I have no idea if they are about to slam on the brakes. Ed drives way closer than I feel comfortable driving behind someone.

If someone is behind you for more than a few corners let them by.

Separate question: What is people's opinions on point by's when in line. I was in a line of 5 cars all waiting to get pointed by. There was a BMW on my tail, who was faster than me on the straights, but we were still stuck in a line.

I didn't point him by until I cleared the line, and then let him by. After the session he passive aggressively walked by me and said if someone is behind you for 4 laps let him by. I responded with the correct amount of vulgar insults and we went on our way. Was I in the wrong for not letting him by while I was also waiting to be let by?

I agree 100% that if someone is behind you for more than a few corners that you need to let them by. I practice this zealously. But others don't and need a bit more pressure.

Also, at least in the case of the BMW I was watching him and didn't feel like he was driving erraticly, so I was comfortable getting closer. For the Porsche... he was erratic, but I wanted to run him off the road, so......... Red mist.

I agree, i have had ocations when the driver ahead hits the brakes when i was expecting them to get on the gas.
If i find myself at the tail end of a long line of cars i just slow down for a lap and let them go until i can get a few hot plaps before catching them, and hope it clears out by the time i get back to them.

I agree the BMW was way too far back to ever get a point by. If someone is that far back on me I will assume they are watching my line and aren't going to get a timely point by. If you aren't comfortable filling someone's mirrors, then stay out of the advanced group.

Depends on the circumstance. Sometimes I'll give them the point hoping they can clear the jam quickly and maybe even clue some drivers into the fact there are others behind them. Other times they stay behind until we clear the jam and then they get a point on the very first opportunity.

If I'm on a fast track like Road Atlanta and a vette is in my mirror, he gets a point by and can go deal with the traffic in front. Often he will move quickly through the jam and be free. A spec Miata in the same situation can wait in line just like me, and I'll do my best to make sure that after we clear traffic he is in front before we hit the tightest sections of the track.

A lot of it will come down to how much of your car I've seen that weekend and how fast I think you are. And especially if I think your car is aggressive enough looking/sounding to help break apart the jam.

Some of the most enjoyable track experiences have been playing follow the leader with another car turning similar lap times, switching off on the leader position every couple laps. Did that last year with a LS powered RX7 at Gateway. He'd leave me behind on the banked oval and main straight, I'd leave him behind on the infield. If your newfound friend is a Miata on Hoosiers and you have RC1s, just make sure you don't try to take the same line at the same speed. Unless you like trimming grass that is. Not that I've ever done that or anything :giggle:

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Also, here's the video you were attempting to post:

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it was basically this:

Oooohh! I remember that. It almost looked like the wheels ejected. Amazingly consistent design/manufacturing to get that result.

My past 2 vintage weekends I've had contact with other cars, which neither were really my fault, but still, quite frowned upon.



In my pops Mini, guy in 113 didn't see me coming up inside on T1 and turned into me, he later apologized. Didn't matter anyways, catastrophic engine failure on lap 4. Ventilated engine block.



3:10 I was impatient after 3 corner stations had given him the blue/yellow. Luckily no damage done to the cars.

Probably over aggressive driving by me, and bad awareness on their part, hence me making this post for this thread.

I love the grass driving at the start.

Meh. I think both are racing incidents. Personally, I would have backed off and practiced car-conservation in the TWS incident. That's just a really hairy part of the track and the other driver was sandwiched. I would have done exactly the same thing at Hallett though. It looked perfectly fine to me, just surprised at the lack of awareness from the other driver.

Really enjoyed watching you drive that Formula Ford. Nice, smooth edge-of-grip driving.

That guy in the old FA was really good at the straight bits!

Here's a couple of things. Can fast forward to 2:05 if you don't want to see my awesome record lap. lol.

Worst driveway parker ever?
DASH CAM FAIL: Maybe the worst driveway park in history | Tweed Daily News

Nope, not even close.


This is supposed to be for track driving though!

except the title only says bad driving. not bad track driving...

Wow, the roll cage did its job.

And indeed I forgot about the thread title change, ha. Oops.

Sorry, no video, but I thought the asshattery of this story should be sufficient:

Camaro driver clocked at 171 miles per hour

google map:



Camaro clocked at 171 mph on Highway 61
By John Myers on Apr 11, 2016 at 7:13 p.m.
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What is it about the Duluth-Two Harbors expressway?

In February it was a Nissan Sentra doing 137 mph. And on Friday night a jet-black 2016 Chevrolet Camaro 1SS was clocked at 171 mph on that stretch of Minnesota Highway 61.

Hermantown Police Department Deputy Chief Shawn Padden was on loan as part of a Minnesota State Patrol "Toward Zero Deaths" DWI saturation effort Friday night when the radar in his Dodge Charger squad car started screaming.

"I had just come off (McQuade Road) heading toward Duluth, right by the Sinclair gas station," Padden said. "He was going north, or east, toward Two Harbors. ... The first speed that came up was 171, then 168 and then 143. When he went by me it was a blur. You get used to seeing people going 65 or 70 and what that looks like. But I've never seen anything like this. It's like a rocket on wheels at that point."

Padden happened to be right at a crossover and made a hurried U-turn heading for Two Harbors. It was 6:50 p.m.

"I hit the lights and siren and called it in to the State Patrol. ... I had to get my car up to 135 just to get close enough for him to see my lights on," Padden said.

The driver, a 36-year-old Lakeside man, pulled over quickly "which is good because we'd probably be in Canada right now," Padden joked.

When asked, of course, the man said he didn't know how fast he was going. An unidentified woman was in the passenger seat.

Padden said he wrote the driver a "coupon" for misdemeanor careless driving, a step above the usual petty misdemeanor traffic ticket.

A guilty finding or plea on a careless driving charge can bring up to a $1,000 fine and 90 days in jail and, for cases involving speeds of more than 100 mph, can result in revocation of driver's license under Minnesota law.

"If he hits anything at that speed, a deer or whatever, it's going to end badly for the people in that car and maybe for someone else. There is no reaction time at that speed," Padden said. "That's the fastest I've ever seen" on radar.

The Camaro 1SS has a 455 horsepower, 6.2 liter V-8 engine. Car and Driver magazine says the car will do 0-60 mph in 4.3 seconds, 0-100 mph in 9.3 seconds and has a top speed of about 160 mph.



Also, it sounds like Chevy may be underrating the top speed on the SS. :giggle:

Teen Being Sued After Crashing Car While Allegedly Using Snapchat?s ?Speed? Filter in Atlanta | KTLA

"McGee wanted to post an image of herself going fast. She argued that she was, 'Just trying to get the car to 100 miles per hour to post it on Snapchat.'" the victim's lawyers say. A passenger in McGee's car said she had hit 113 mph on the Snapchat filter, they added. When the cars hit, the speed was 107 mph, according to the complaint. The speed limit was 55.

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UNBELIEVABLE! Notice how this stupid C@%$ was able to update everyone with another snap as she was being taken away in the ambulance. After all the mayhem she had just caused, she still didn't get. I think she should be locked up for many, many years . . . and WITHOUT access to social media!

You jus jelly she got more views than you.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1461868448

She's just a copycat. MT was first!

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Channel 5, represent!

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Amazingly the driver (reportedly) survived that. Broken leg, a couple broken ribs and 2nd degree burns over 40% of his body.

I would have guessed a much, much worse outcome...

Bike was going pretty slow but I still no reason for that shit. :hatecat:

what was that biker doing?!

Many of the corners at the ring are blind, but you can spot slow drivers ahead and avoid the mid corner blunder like this miata guy, i drove the ring for about an hour and half last sumer and witneses a few crashes from guys that think that Grand Turismo and the real thing are the same🙄
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1462725327

Why would they allow a bike with touring bags on the track? Looked like he was site seeing and a danger to the entire course.

Because public road would be my guess.

Is the ring a public roadway??? Serious question.

It's a bit of a grey area. Technically, it is operated as a toll highway. But, in short, it's open to any road-legal motor vehicle.

I saw 3 guys in vespas that had ryden from GB ryding there, pretty scarry but they had no issues doing it.
The miata surely got a tiket for the crash, a repair bill for the guard rail and the tow truck.

The miata looked to be hot into the corner to begin with.

Yes, that's one of the biggest dangers with the ring. You can be flying and come up on someone just toodling along, sightseeing. It'd be like holding the main HPDE time AND parade laps on a course simultaneously.

Sounds like fun :likecat:

:nono:

I really don't pull video from the dash cam often enough. But these both happened in the same day, today. I had to post.


If you look close at the second one, you can see the truck signaling right when he made the left turn.

:party:

You rushed through the stop sign to try to get out in front of him. It didn't work. Truck wins.

Reminds me of an industrial area by one of the highway entrances that I frequently use. For trucks, it takes them forever to get through the intersection, so two or even three cars can usually sneak through while the truck is turning the same way.

What are you talking about? That's a single-lane road where he rolls up on the stop sign. They both turned the same way from the same lane. In direct rebuttal to your assertion, it looks like the truck never even tried to stop.

yeah looks like the truck straight up just drove through the intersection. youre lucky he didnt run into you...

I was in a line of cars rolling up to the stop sign. He was behind me patiently waiting for his turn, or so I thought.
Because I saw he had his right blinker on, when he went wide I thought maybe he was doing the wide turn thing and really nail me. There was a car behind the truck too, when i went to check my signal they pointed at me and laughed.

Get off my line.