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Old 04-02-2008, 11:15 AM   #61
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^I learn something new every day. Thanks guys.
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Old 04-02-2008, 11:52 AM   #62
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You know, my hydra map is 90% the same as FM's base hydra map for a "2001 with big turbo". I added no more than 3-4 degrees anywhere.

Jeremy's less conservative with the hydra maps than FM's previous stuff. maybe he'll post about it.
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:08 PM   #63
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I'll add something to the title to help provoke them to look at the thread then.
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:24 PM   #64
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hey andrew, whats your spark table looking like? im curious as i just modeled off teh DIY maps, but i was curious about adding a little more timing on the lower end as the car feels somewhat sluggish at the low end.
If you access the secret dialog box in MegaTune, and type in "produce me the shittiest, most conservative timing map possible" you will magically get what I run.

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Seriously, though, I think there's something more than just my bad gas going on here. My car used to ping on the stock ECU pre-turbo with 15 degrees of advance and 91 octane, so I am going to check whether my pulley is seriously off the mark or something. After looking at all these maps, the 2 octane points shouldn't make that big of a difference.

By the way, I still detonate every so often on that map.
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Old 04-02-2008, 03:38 PM   #65
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You G this playah wantz youz to pick the map that is da bomb quit wid all this whack maps and post da best too much **** its crazee my homeyz tired of loding all da maps for me yo.
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Old 04-03-2008, 10:25 AM   #66
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I made the spark table with help from Turbo Tim. kinda copied his spark table up top but left my DIY PNP rows down in vacuum
And my ignition map started as AEM's default map for the B16 Honda with 440cc injectors. My fuel map I carried over from the Link. But that was years ago when I ran the 1.6 and I'm sure it changed a lot since. I know from the dyno days with the old setup that adding a few degrees didn't change torque or hp at all so I backed it back down to what I gave paul. My new setup is a lot more lazy so I'm going to compare my entire map to Y8S' and try to get some more midrange.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:15 AM   #67
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This thread is awesome.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:37 AM   #68
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...After looking at all these maps, the 2 octane points shouldn't make that big of a difference.

By the way, I still detonate every so often on that map.
Time for WI?
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:14 PM   #69
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Gosh, I've got lots to learn! My MS should be in the car in a couple of weeks, hopefully I understand half of this by then.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:04 PM   #70
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The best part of all of this is that as much as everyone preaches getting on a dyno, no one has a dyno tuned spark map. I mean actually sat on a steady state dyno and tuned the entire map. Should be interesting when someone finally has one.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:05 PM   #71
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uhm. I do.
Mine was done on a dynapack by Jerry Hoffman (Foundsoul-white shirt) and Scott Sigel (SigelRacing-black shirt). DIY now has that same dyno in house.

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But where is the screenshot of your timing map? Is that private information?
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:21 PM   #73
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hes posted it before....get with it!!!! and i sat with y8s for two hours as he steady state tuned his maps.....i planned on doing it this month on my last car before i killed it.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure I've seen it, but that was like 3k posts ago though man I'm aging or something. Guess i could go look for bens map for the heck of it.
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Old 04-03-2008, 02:33 PM   #75
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hes posted it before....get with it!!!! and i sat with y8s for two hours as he steady state tuned his maps.....i planned on doing it this month on my last car before i killed it.
true. but i mostly did fuel. in retrospect I should have left fuel alone and just done timing. hard though. no car likes to sit at 6500 rpm and 10 psi with no airflow for a minute or two while you **** around.
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I'm using one of Pauls Hybrid N/A spark maps on my setup, while it needs a lot of fuel adjustments, the car does pull very nicely to redline in all gears without any knock I can hear. Needs more turbo.
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You NE dyno day guys should stop by and pick up the 5 gallon drum of Torco I have and mess around with it on the dyno. See how much more timing and boost you can get out of adding 16-32 oz to the tank.

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Time for WI?
I still feel like I should be able to run more without WI. I am definitely planning a WI setup, probably with 25% meth, but I'd rather solve the problem for real vs. just throwing more octane at it.
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Old 04-03-2008, 07:20 PM   #79
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Plugged in a modded version of Pauls map today (thanks). Seems to run good. Cant tell much yet, roads wet.
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:33 PM   #80
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This is my sparkmap, and it will be the 2nd and final time I post it. This is the result of careful tuning on a load based dyno by competent personnel. It's specific to my car, my mods, and my local fuel. It's also aggressive as ****, and is the key to why my car makes so much power. I whole heartedly do not like sharing maps because I'm afraid of what a will do with it. Use extreme caution!!! Don't blow your **** up. This map is shown for informative and comparative purposes only. I'm also running a tad bit rich under boost.
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