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Old 02-16-2007, 06:07 PM   #221
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Ok if the A/F is correct, can anyone explain how it is possible? I think everyone would agree that better breathing exhaust should mean more air into the engine. More air should be leaner right?

I just don't get it.

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I'm really not sure. It's pretty opposite what was expected in the AFR department. If there was AFR reading error, I would have to assume that it was on the base run as there was no wideband on the car itself for comparison. I put the wideband in after the new DP was on the car. Not really sure whats going on. At least now BRG will be able to play around with it and see whats happening and get it dialed in.
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Old 02-16-2007, 06:10 PM   #222
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I know after seeing the results I won't be trading my 2.5" Bell Mouth DP in on the BEGI piece. I don't think the dyno proves one way or another which design is better, sure we can say it SHOULD because of the design ... but that's just a WAG.
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I'm really not sure. It's pretty opposite what was expected in the AFR department. If there was AFR reading error, I would have to assume that it was on the base run as there was no wideband on the car itself for comparison. I put the wideband in after the new DP was on the car. Not really sure whats going on. At least now BRG will be able to play around with it and see whats happening and get it dialed in.
I agree, I think the base line numbers for AFR are borked. I can't imagine him driving the thing that lean with out it making all sorts of bad noises and causing damage.
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Old 02-16-2007, 07:23 PM   #224
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I agree, I think the base line numbers for AFR are borked. I can't imagine him driving the thing that lean with out it making all sorts of bad noises and causing damage.
I intend to pick up the car tomorrow, God willing. I will be by passing the Greddy Fuel Pressure Regulator and install the O2 clamp. Hopefully I will start tuning the Emanage (blue) this coming week before work each day (working the 4-midnight shift). If I can tune (rough) the car without Greddy FPR, then I am going to install Greddy pressure sensor and start tuning (rough) again. Hopefully I will be done playing with car in 1 week. Does anyone know of Dyno shop in the Houston area?
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did these die? i don't see them on the site anymore.
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did these die? i don't see them on the site anymore.
According to their website, they still have them.
http://www.bellengineering.net/Pages...ata_parts.html
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ahhh, i was looking for the in shop pics. coolness.
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ahhh, i was looking for the in shop pics. coolness.
Not the Greddy downpipe, but my Greddy downpipe sort of resembles this one. Picture of downpipe attached to turbo is the Greddy downpipe. Hope that helps. http://www.bellengineering.net/Pages...peupgrade.html
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i know what it looks like, i was just curious, i wasn't specfically looking at the price list, and still looking at the production pictures they had. i already got me a BEGi downpipe, for my T3....
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i know what it looks like, i was just curious, i wasn't specfically looking at the price list, and still looking at the production pictures they had. i already got me a BEGi downpipe, for my T3....
Only pic I have.
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They are still available. I dont think there is any made sitting on the shelf, but give stephanie a call if anyone wants to order one. I would really like to see some more experiences with it. Hows your car doing BRG? Tuning going ok?
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yes i know several in the houston area. get in touch with me

I think there is even a dyno day coming up in the Houston area in like a week or two
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Sucks this thread kinda died off, has anyone gotten any good results out of this pipe?
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On a "get around to it" basis, I'm going to compare the BEGi pipe to the TurboTony pipe.

I've got a Tony pipe finally....
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I am ready to buy a down pipe. But I want it to be 2.5" with a 2.5" cat. I also would like to keep the transmission tunnel cool. I am thinking about getting the ceramic coated model.
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The begi is 2.5" after the wastegate diversion and the turbine outlet combine. You will be fine with this dp and the 2.5" cat.
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1991BRG will allow use of his car for Bell to mock up a downpipe. In case you didn't know, Bell's downpipe is larger than TurboTony's (2.75" vs 2.5") and has divorced wastegate gas entry. That translates to more power. And it's roughly the same cost. I'm going to talk to Corky and/or Stephanie later today, but wanted to see if any others were interested.

Final cost may differ, but BEGi's website lists the mild steel pipe at $265. Tony's pipe is $250

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http://www.bellengineering.net/Image...2%20copyLG.jpg

I ordered this exact downpipe and mine was a 2 1/2 inch dp. How many of you guys measured the I.D. of your pipes? Im trying to figure out how i got the wrong one and am being told that BEGI does not make a 2.75 inch dp for the greddy kit.
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I ordered this exact downpipe and mine was a 2 1/2 inch dp. How many of you guys measured the I.D. of your pipes? Im trying to figure out how i got the wrong one and am being told that BEGI does not make a 2.75 inch dp for the greddy kit.
It's apparent that you did not take the time to read any of this thread other than the initial post. BEGi stated that their pipe was going to be a 2.5" outlet.

Please stop pissing and moaning.
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I still have a stock exhaust on my car.....So who wants to sell me their old setup once you go BIG????

I have a Racing Beat cat back and a FM high flow cat I could put on but something tells me I need a turbo down pipe.....What do you guys say....shoot me a PM if you are interested
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I just saw this picture of the pipe on the site:



It makes me sad that the wastegate flow re-enters the pipe at a 90 angle. Perhaps this is why the results thus far have been less than ideal.
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