The Better Bilstein Ebay Coilover Thread
#661
Those look exactly like the Allstar sleeves and perches mentioned elsewhere in the thread, and you can get them for around $30 if you buy them separately without that top spring mount. Unless they're some funky Bilstein, they should fit the same 46mm shocks as the fleabay ones and you'll probably still have fitment issues.
#663
Those look exactly like the Allstar sleeves and perches mentioned elsewhere in the thread, and you can get them for around $30 if you buy them separately without that top spring mount. Unless they're some funky Bilstein, they should fit the same 46mm shocks as the fleabay ones and you'll probably still have fitment issues.
#668
Ok so how does this shopping list look like. trying to get all from 1 place as i have to pay import duty.
Car will be daily driver with allot of spirited driving
4 x Allstar Performance ALL64162 - Allstar Performance Coil-Over Sleeves
4 x Allstar Performance ALL64180 - Allstar Performance Coil-Over Adjusting Nut
4 x RideTech 70010828 - RideTech Delrin Spring Washers
1 x Energy Suspension 9-6103G - Energy Suspension Coil Spring Isolators (why only 2?)
2 x Coil Over Spring, 350 lbs./in. Rate, 7 in. Length, 2.5 in.
2 x Coil-Over Spring, 550 lbs./in. Rate, 7 in. Length, 2.5 in
Car will be daily driver with allot of spirited driving
4 x Allstar Performance ALL64162 - Allstar Performance Coil-Over Sleeves
4 x Allstar Performance ALL64180 - Allstar Performance Coil-Over Adjusting Nut
4 x RideTech 70010828 - RideTech Delrin Spring Washers
1 x Energy Suspension 9-6103G - Energy Suspension Coil Spring Isolators (why only 2?)
2 x Coil Over Spring, 350 lbs./in. Rate, 7 in. Length, 2.5 in.
2 x Coil-Over Spring, 550 lbs./in. Rate, 7 in. Length, 2.5 in
#670
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Got all my hardware. Allstar sleeves and 7" summit springs at 550/350. Cut Honda bumpstops. Everything is disassembled. '99 with sport Bilsteins. Looking to lower by about 1" to 1.5". Car is used for some track, some Auto-X and a little bit of road duty.
I just assembled the new struts and I think in order to reach my target height I would have three options:
1. have zero tension on the springs at full droop. Probably even need to have maybe 0.5" to 1" or so of slop.
2. Extend the tophats
3. Add helper/tender springs
How bad is it to have the springs just rattle around loosely at full droop?
If I'm extending the tophats, how much is recommended, considering my goals stated above? Earleier in this thread I read 1" front, 1.5" rear. Does that make sense?
On a different subject: My bumpstops in the rear were completely disintegrated. A reddish-brownish mush inside the rubber protectors thingies. Looked like they were chemically dissolved, not mechanically destroyed. The front ones looked perfect- no damage at all. Has anybody seen anything like this before?
I just assembled the new struts and I think in order to reach my target height I would have three options:
1. have zero tension on the springs at full droop. Probably even need to have maybe 0.5" to 1" or so of slop.
2. Extend the tophats
3. Add helper/tender springs
How bad is it to have the springs just rattle around loosely at full droop?
If I'm extending the tophats, how much is recommended, considering my goals stated above? Earleier in this thread I read 1" front, 1.5" rear. Does that make sense?
On a different subject: My bumpstops in the rear were completely disintegrated. A reddish-brownish mush inside the rubber protectors thingies. Looked like they were chemically dissolved, not mechanically destroyed. The front ones looked perfect- no damage at all. Has anybody seen anything like this before?
#672
Got all my hardware. Allstar sleeves and 7" summit springs at 550/350. Cut Honda bumpstops. Everything is disassembled. '99 with sport Bilsteins. Looking to lower by about 1" to 1.5". Car is used for some track, some Auto-X and a little bit of road duty.
I just assembled the new struts and I think in order to reach my target height I would have three options:
1. have zero tension on the springs at full droop. Probably even need to have maybe 0.5" to 1" or so of slop.
2. Extend the tophats
3. Add helper/tender springs
How bad is it to have the springs just rattle around loosely at full droop?
If I'm extending the tophats, how much is recommended, considering my goals stated above? Earleier in this thread I read 1" front, 1.5" rear. Does that make sense?
On a different subject: My bumpstops in the rear were completely disintegrated. A reddish-brownish mush inside the rubber protectors thingies. Looked like they were chemically dissolved, not mechanically destroyed. The front ones looked perfect- no damage at all. Has anybody seen anything like this before?
I just assembled the new struts and I think in order to reach my target height I would have three options:
1. have zero tension on the springs at full droop. Probably even need to have maybe 0.5" to 1" or so of slop.
2. Extend the tophats
3. Add helper/tender springs
How bad is it to have the springs just rattle around loosely at full droop?
If I'm extending the tophats, how much is recommended, considering my goals stated above? Earleier in this thread I read 1" front, 1.5" rear. Does that make sense?
On a different subject: My bumpstops in the rear were completely disintegrated. A reddish-brownish mush inside the rubber protectors thingies. Looked like they were chemically dissolved, not mechanically destroyed. The front ones looked perfect- no damage at all. Has anybody seen anything like this before?
I have zero tension at droop as well, Just glue your isolators to the upper perch so they dont get pinched weird if the spring unloads (has happed to me).
Those shock bodies are a bit long too, I ended up running 1" F 1.5" r ISC hats. If I were to do it again, I would run .5" front and 1" rear hats. I ended up with more bump travel than I can use (tire hits body).
Also, the rear bumpstops evaporating is pretty common from what I've seen. The guy I got my shocks from had the same thing happen.
Edit: I had a brain fart, I'm on 10AE Hard s shocks... On the tail end of a 14 hr shift....
Last edited by soot; 02-07-2016 at 10:14 PM. Reason: Brain fart
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Thanks for the advice!
Springs are cheap. I'll try my 550/350 for now and see how that works. Sounds like I'll go with the 1"/1,5" extended tophats. Really want to make full use of all the bump-travel I can get. I need to pull and roll the fenders anyway to fit my new 10" 6ULs that should be coming end of this month. Eventually I hope to run this suspension on my future Salvagewon Eliminator. At 700lbs or so less, 550/350 should be plenty.
Springs are cheap. I'll try my 550/350 for now and see how that works. Sounds like I'll go with the 1"/1,5" extended tophats. Really want to make full use of all the bump-travel I can get. I need to pull and roll the fenders anyway to fit my new 10" 6ULs that should be coming end of this month. Eventually I hope to run this suspension on my future Salvagewon Eliminator. At 700lbs or so less, 550/350 should be plenty.
#680
So I'm in the position of being able to choose a complete Hard-S suspension for $100 less than brand new Bilstein HD's. Good deal or go for the brand new HD's?
If I go down the HD route, I should search for HD's for an NA Miata and just use them with NB top hats to install them on my NB correct? A quick search seems to show that they'll work.
If I go down the HD route, I should search for HD's for an NA Miata and just use them with NB top hats to install them on my NB correct? A quick search seems to show that they'll work.