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Old 02-10-2011, 03:54 PM   #81
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His smokescreen will clear up sooner or later. If they dont get out soon the forums will shut him down completely..
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Perhaps I should offer to datalog a set for him? I could put them through the F Prod wringer.
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Old 02-10-2011, 04:03 PM   #83
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I recently discussed some shock dyno antics where my buddy can make two shocks give an identical shock dyno, yet perform worlds apart. He said something like "A shock dyno won't tell you if a shock is 'great' but it can tell you if it's a bad shock".
Didn't I just say that?
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Hey, I even offered to have them sent to Bearne before installation and have a real Guru give his blessings.

Like I said, I was more than willing...
LOL. Look at what he replied at mnet about you 5 minutes ago:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...2&postcount=40



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Old 02-10-2011, 04:23 PM   #85
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LOL. Look at what he replied at mnet about you 5 minutes ago:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...2&postcount=40


Hey Brain…you gonna take that from him?!!?…why I'd…LOL...
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Old 02-10-2011, 05:13 PM   #86
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Hey Brain…you gonna take that from him?!!?…why I'd…LOL...
fairly certain you followed that post with calling brain "merely prominent"!
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Old 02-10-2011, 05:17 PM   #87
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I just don't care anymore. Even if I were to get the product for free, I'd rather just slap on my teins and be done with it at this point.
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Old 02-10-2011, 05:20 PM   #88
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I'm a no name, thats consistently 2+ seconds under the spec miata record for my track. I'm currently on ancient kyb agx with first gen fm springs, and wouldn't test these DGRs if they were free.
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Someone should tell these poor folks at my350z that the ChaseAero user is DGR aka Russ hyping his own product:

http://my350z.com/forum/suspension/5...coilovers.html
That was posted January 26th.

The day before, Joe posts he had taken over the account.

http://my350z.com/forum/8916487-post9.html

Unless that's Russ till using the Chaser account. Most of his M.net stuff was posted well before that. His first DGR account posts on M.net started on Jan 30th.
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Old 02-10-2011, 07:42 PM   #90
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Yeah, a lot of talk...not much substance. I love that the color mimics the Xidas....how hard is it to come up with your own branding???
They look more like Stance

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His smokescreen will clear up sooner or later. If they dont get out soon the forums will shut him down completely..
maybe....He is def a dumbass. 2 or 3 times he's talked in circles.

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I'm a no name, thats consistently 2+ seconds under the spec miata record for my track. I'm currently on ancient kyb agx with first gen fm springs, and wouldn't test these DGRs if they were free.
lower your standards and be a parts *****
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lower your standards and be a parts *****


Been down that road, I don't take free parts unless there's an openly disclosed paycheck involved.
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Old 02-10-2011, 11:36 PM   #92
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fairly certain you followed that post with calling brain "merely prominent"!
I'll have to go back and check..but that's not my recollection or intent.

My understanding is that the guy wants to have some others look into and evaluate his product. Having some hellaflusher who might be prominent on CR try things out is not the same as having someone like Stewart or a racer with a clue doing the same. I know that Brain races and…has a really huge Brain. For one thing, at least some dynos done by Koni will be available soon, that will help get a sense of things as it did with Raceland. Besides that, I'd prefer to see a few sets dynoed to get a sense of consistency. Hopefully they'll at least do 2 fronts and 2 rears at a minimum.

Appy-polly-loggies Brain if y8s's reaction or concern was yours too.
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Old 02-11-2011, 08:12 AM   #93
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I'm almost tempted to see if he'd send me a set to compare to my Ohlins
I don't think I'd take the Ohlins off my car, but install them on my GF's MSM and use her car for AutoX and compare them to how my car feels. Should I ?
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Old 02-12-2011, 11:02 PM   #94
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Shock dynos have been posted:

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=409010

Surprise! They're chinadampers so the adjusters don't do ****.
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Old 02-13-2011, 02:23 AM   #95
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Quick and dirty comparison with everyone's favorite damper, the racelands:

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Old 02-13-2011, 10:58 AM   #96
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Full-stiff DGR looks pretty good, time for a heavy spring. This guy might have a decent shock for poor people.
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What is the bad news about chaser aero?
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:28 AM   #98
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From the pointy board.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=409010

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Guys, I got some updates for you...

As you know, I had a set of shocks dynoed recently. I wanted to pass these along to you. I've talked to a technical guy here, so I know exactlywhat I'm looking at.

First thing I want to point you to is the Damper vs. Rebound. As you can see (below 0 line) the main rate of change comes from the rebound side. Not a ton of adjustment on the damper side. The one thing you'll see is the shock is erring towards the side of comfort and matched pretty well to the spring rate.

Jason at Koni said this shock is definitely going to work well for a guy that daily drives his Miata, but likes to do spirited driving. If you are building a track car and you need to shave 0.010 seconds off your lap time, you'll be disappointed.

BUT it doesn't end there. I want to improve the track set up. I've sent over some information to my factory and told them the R&D guys need to take this back and play with this more. Seeing 0-20-25-30 as the adjustment points. Just a 4-way adjustment. Unless 1-19 give a drastic change, those points are useless. Its going to take me some time to get a true track ready system. I wont accept the factory getting this done in 1 month. I want a shock, test it, change it, rinse, lather, repeat. I'm not going to release it until it's right.

In closing, I'm not trying to push a revolutionary new product that's going to set the world on fire. My goal is to help you improve the feel of your street car, with out breaking the bank.

Let's discuss, let's please keep it civil. I'd like for this discussion to keep this technical and see how we can make this better for the track guys. I'm here to help...

I'm going to add some content as we go, as needed...
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Quick and dirty comparison with everyone's favorite damper, the racelands:

next time keep all the compression and rebound colors the same per application.
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Old 02-13-2011, 11:42 AM   #100
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Full-stiff DGR looks pretty good, time for a heavy spring. This guy might have a decent shock for poor people.

Or buy Megans or Stance or BC Racing...whichever is on sale.
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