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Old 02-09-2011, 01:22 AM   #61
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Poor m.netters who are falling for this garbage...I need to find a way to extort money from them with some smoke and mirrors product too.
I'd look to make cash elsewhere as the m.netters are delivering Russ a drubbing the likes of which I haven't seen in quite some time. They had to mercy kill the thread. It almost makes me feel sorry for the poor bastard; almost.
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I bet I could call Taiwan with $10k and become a vendor too.

this is taiwan we are talking about. Try $5k.
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LOL. Now the DGR Tawain company is directly selling on ebay to USA for a cheaper price than Russ:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DGR-S...Q5fAccessories


So much for Russ being the exclusive distributor for USA ..... LOL
Or being an exclusive distributor was just another lie of his?



To be fair that seller has 1 feedback and it's negative. He hasn't sold ****.
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I'd look to make cash elsewhere as the m.netters are delivering Russ a drubbing the likes of which I haven't seen in quite some time. They had to mercy kill the thread. It almost makes me feel sorry for the poor bastard; almost.
Just read that. Too bad as soon as a little truth gets posted, Sir Liberal Jew Chickenfucker closes the thread where it will fall into oblivion only for a new thread to pop up and more suckers to get their hopes up. If all goes well, the truth will follow him around OR he will actually deliver product and the magical shock dynos that he has been promising for over a month...that were to only take a week

For that kinda money, I'd get Stance suspension....though it seems not much is being said about them lately...but for awhile it was everywhere and I never heard much about bad quality from them....or were they one of the first mass produced Tiwanese generic suspension to hit the market and all these other companies are the same ****...hmmm.
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To be fair that seller has 1 feedback and it's negative. He hasn't sold ****.
Bet it's Russ
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Bet it's Russ
I won't be surprised. All these DGR auctions are a day old and ship to USA only ...
Maybe he is faking being in Taiwan now ...



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Someone should tell these poor folks at my350z that the ChaseAero user is DGR aka Russ hyping his own product:

http://my350z.com/forum/suspension/5...coilovers.html



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That kit is awesome. I have a set on my car.
Ha, didn't even notice my review was posted. Cool!

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Here's what I hate. I was contacted out of the blue cause my name was suggested to be a local evaluator. I knew nothing of DGR because I got contacted from Russ.

I've spoken to Russ before and whatever, I don't care about his story.

What bothers me is this: Here I go thinking he wants to give me a set to try out on my car and then possibly keep or return, fine I agree to that. I have teins on the way and if anything I could swap them out and see what I think of the teins in comparison. I have driven under a lot of setups, I already have a good suspension on the way and I don't need them...I like taking photos and reviewing stuff so I figured why not.

When we start working out the details, He writes this:

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I was actually thinking you drive MY car...

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Then I go back and read his threads on m.net and keep seeing stuff like this:

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I don't mind comping a set to the right person. I just need to get in touch with them. I've reached out to a few and I'd like to find someone in the Baltimore/ DC region. I'd like to be able to stay in touch and check in once a month or so. I have the kit on my car, but its rarely ever driven; so my insights may not be the same - plus, we know what happens when one reviews their own product. I have the perfect guy for the NC kit, but an NA/NB set would be good to have out there as well.
don't contact me to test your product, allude to acutally given me a set to try and really drive on them...then tell me no, drive my car, meanwhile telling people you are just looking for the right guy.
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Here's what I hate. I was contacted out of the blue cause my name was suggested to be a local evaluator. I knew nothing of DGR because I got contacted from Russ.

I've spoken to Russ before and whatever, I don't care about his story.

What bothers me is this: Here I go thinking he wants to give me a set to try out on my car and then possibly keep or return, fine I agree to that. I have teins on the way and if anything I could swap them out and see what I think of the teins in comparison. I have driven under a lot of setups, I already have a good suspension on the way and I don't need them...I like taking photos and reviewing stuff so I figured why not.

When we start working out the details, He writes this:

Then I go back and read his threads on m.net and keep seeing stuff like this:

don't contact me to test your product, allude to acutally given me a set to try and really drive on them...then tell me no, drive my car, meanwhile telling people you are just looking for the right guy.
Are you an active racer in a competitive series? I'd like to see the dude get someone like that near him, if that is you then it could help the both of you.

Street is easy to satisfy, racers are harder if they are competing since "good enough"…is not good enough as they say. Track day folks…many can't drive well or set up a car well. It's a bit harder to find a good trackie for damper evaluations.

However dynoing a few samples will start to shed some light. Maybe they are crap after all.

If the guy just wants a post-praise-on-the-forums person then the dampers are crap. If they were good that would not be necessary. Since races could be won, people copy what the fast guys run etc. Heck you could get praise for Monroe shocks easily, they work fine for many people who are not enthusiasts or into performance driving.
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Yeah he has gotten way out of control. He sent me a PM when I blasted him on CR.net and tried to tell me all this stuff about Chaser and people stuff sitting on the floor not shipped.... He is not gonna make it in this industry.
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I didnt have plans to track this year, but you never know. I would autox the crap out of them. Besides, anyone that wants a track setup probably doesn't want DGR coilovers, so track evaluations shouldn't be necessary.

The typical purchaser isn't going to be thinking track setup either...

It's kinda like tiens, they are great for the street, but look whats happening to everyone that is serious about tracking the miata....off they go.

The main thing was, I was contacted out of the blue to be an unbiased evaluator. I can't evaluate a product by driving it around baltimore for an afternoon. I'd want to hold them, measure them, adjust them, compare them, etc, before I even would want to drive on them.
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I didnt have plans to track this year, but you never know. I would autox the crap out of them. Besides, anyone that wants a track setup probably doesn't want DGR coilovers, so track evaluations shouldn't be necessary.

The typical purchaser isn't going to be thinking track setup either...

It's kinda like tiens, they are great for the street, but look whats happening to everyone that is serious about tracking the miata....off they go.

The main thing was, I was contacted out of the blue to be an unbiased evaluator. I can't evaluate a product by driving it around baltimore for an afternoon. I'd want to hold them, measure them, adjust them, compare them, etc, before I even would want to drive on them.
I'd call that another couple strikes against this guy.

Since you post alot and have some forum-cred he wants you to drive around the block in his car. Then post up a storm praising them and answering questions. In return…you can buy a set from him at a lower price, but one which still allows him a few hundred profit.
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For you guys that have been around miatas for a minute.. has Chaser always been crap or just when Russ was around cause I havent seen that Joe guy do anything yet either other than to promise "ill look into it"..
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To be fair, I don't think Russ has any say in what happened at Chaser. He did his darnest to make good, but I think the issues were all beyond him. He's just a sales guy, now he's at a new place, selling.

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Since you post alot and have some forum-cred he wants you to drive around the block in his car. Then post up a storm praising them and answering questions. In return…you can buy a set from him at a lower price, but one which still allows him a few hundred profit.
You think I paid for my turbo kit? I love BEGI! Everyone should buy from them.
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Yeah I dont know but it almost seems like Chaser thought they had a market cornered and then starting cutting those corners and it went south. I am wondering in total how many accounts they have screwed up cause since I have been around,over a year, they havent come through on ONE order or account without serious issues...
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Here's what I hate. I was contacted out of the blue cause my name was suggested to be a local evaluator. I knew nothing of DGR because I got contacted from Russ.

I've spoken to Russ before and whatever, I don't care about his story.

What bothers me is this: Here I go thinking he wants to give me a set to try out on my car and then possibly keep or return, fine I agree to that. I have teins on the way and if anything I could swap them out and see what I think of the teins in comparison. I have driven under a lot of setups, I already have a good suspension on the way and I don't need them...I like taking photos and reviewing stuff so I figured why not.

When we start working out the details, He writes this:

Then I go back and read his threads on m.net and keep seeing stuff like this:

don't contact me to test your product, allude to acutally given me a set to try and really drive on them...then tell me no, drive my car, meanwhile telling people you are just looking for the right guy.

Good god -

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Nope - any old "someone"s opinion may be worth nothing, if they are not familiar with different suspensions and capable of evaluating the differences. DGR's presentations would not be helped by Joe Blow off the street saying "I replaced my tired old shocks (or crap Racelands or whatever) with DGR and these ROCK!"...
This - there are plenty of well-known, qualified members here who have extensive driving experience on track/autocross with different competing or better suspensions - an evaluation from someone with proper experience carries MUCH more weight than "how about someone try them". I don't know about everyone else, but I pretty much ignore the posts about "these new coilovers ROCK!" if that person isn't known to have tried many other suspensions or have good driving experience, they're not worth much.
Agreed, I need the right person for the job.
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Russ your best bet is to get a set out to one of these guys like the say like Black Jesus and let them beat the crap out of them. It may cost a little overhead to lose a set but it will let them play with it and show them what they are capable of.
I don't mind comping a set to the right person. I just need to get in touch with them. I've reached out to a few and I'd like to find someone in the Baltimore/ DC region. I'd like to be able to stay in touch and check in once a month or so. I have the kit on my car, but its rarely ever driven; so my insights may not be the same - plus, we know what happens when one reviews their own product. I have the perfect guy for the NC kit, but an NA/NB set would be good to have out there as well.

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However dynoing a few samples will start to shed some light. Maybe they are crap after all.
I recently discussed some shock dyno antics where my buddy can make two shocks give an identical shock dyno, yet perform worlds apart. He said something like "A shock dyno won't tell you if a shock is 'great' but it can tell you if it's a bad shock".
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If I didn't have 4-gelded unicorns suspending my car with diamond encrusted genitals then I'd try them out for him and buy them at a reduced cost if I liked them.
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I think the only way to figure out if they are crap or not is to get them on the track/street to someone independent. Even better if they dislike russ cause if they turn out to be good then it may hold a lil water. He is gonna be out of business with these tactics by summer.
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Hey, I even offered to have them sent to Bearne before installation and have a real Guru give his blessings.

Like I said, I was more than willing...
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