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Old 02-21-2014, 07:12 PM   #101
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Yes, and we're passing along potential savings from our price break that followed. You'll still pay the lowest price we have to offer. I think that's pretty fair.

We are not planning any further discounts at this time. If you want to cancel your order, please contact us. I would ensure that the other vendor can actually fill your order first.
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It's generally understood that a group buy is a good deal to encourage early adopters. Your definition of "pretty fair" is that we get the same deal as everyone else (and we should be darn thankful for it).

Except we don't. I really wanted to get a wheel+tire combo to save shipping, separate ordering and paying the local installers. Had I waited a couple of weeks, I could have gotten that from Phil's and Goodwin. I couldn't do that with the FM group buy (I asked).

Anyway, my response in post #100 was a bit harsh. Apologies for that. I wasn't planning to lose any sleep over this, but I'd be lying if I didn't tell you that it has been bugging me a bit. I think your last two posts, especially the "Your Call" were not in keeping with FM's reputation.

It does sound like Jongbloed pulled the carpet out from under you guys a bit though. Used you to gauge demand and then went out to all with a lower price.
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There have certainly been a number of changes we did not expect since we originally announced these. We've done our best to keep our customers happy. But all I can provide is the best information I have at the time.

You may get a better deal than someone who waited, it depends on those shipping charges. You WILL get part of the first order, which may or may not be possible for people who wait. Thanks to that group buy, there are a lot more wheels coming in then there would have been. I don't think the bronze wheels would have existed otherwise.

This lowballing has me pissed off. I apologize if I'm not being mister perfect corporate and giving everyone free money just become someone else decided to advertise a very small number of wheels at a low price. MT.net is a place where people don't try to be terribly polite, so I figured I'd just fit in for a bit.

Have a good weekend, I'm out of here.
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any up dates on these things? I see my account hasn't be charged yet.
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Update: Still not April, still no wheels.
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thought maybe you would be in contact with them and say something like " wheels are formed, waiting for final machining"
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It would be nice if all manufacturers kept us that closely informed. They're more of a black box.
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It does sound like Jongbloed pulled the carpet out from under you guys a bit though. Used you to gauge demand and then went out to all with a lower price.
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This is pretty much what I see as well. It seems as though manufacturers underestimate the market, then when a reputable retailer steps up to back something, that manufacturer sees the potential and floods the marketplace. This kind of thing happens in my industry all the time(wholesale consumer and commercial truck tire distribution). Could FM have had yongblo0d private label these bad boys as Flyin Miata "5uls/whatevers"?
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Actually, Phil's has a long-term relationship with JB. I'll bet when they got word of the FM group buy on the new JB products, they raised Cain with JB. I would have if I were them. FM is the innocent party here and got burned IMHO.

Nothing personal . . . just business.

Anyways . . . patiently waiting. ETA on 225 Rival's from TireRack is April too. The Red car is on jackstands with the engine pulled. My timeline is still looking good (hoping to be on track with the Red car in May).

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We've been working with Phil, there's been no Cain raised between us. There's a good relationship there.
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This is pretty much what I see as well. It seems as though manufacturers underestimate the market, then when a reputable retailer steps up to back something, that manufacturer sees the potential and floods the marketplace. This kind of thing happens in my industry all the time(wholesale consumer and commercial truck tire distribution). Could FM have had yongblo0d private label these bad boys as Flyin Miata "5uls/whatevers"?



Nope..
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Old 03-06-2014, 04:31 PM   #113
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New 4-lug rendering! Note that the bronze is an approximation.


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That's sexy.
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But . . . I ordered black!!!

Waaahhh!!!!
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Yeah, the mockup of that didn't turn out as pretty in higher resolution. But here you go.

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Wow I'm very happy that I ordered those look great.
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Update: Still not April, still no wheels.
It's April!!!!!

Any updates?
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Yup, Tokicos are now in stock!


Oh, wheels. The latest word (as of Monday) is that they're on track for delivery at the end of April.

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Thanks Keith.
Looking forward to the first real shots of the final product.

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