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Old Nov 25, 2013 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
Supposedly. Which would suck. The whole month of December is bad for me.
While true, no super big hurry. You have a kick *** TDI if I recall...just one problem: it doesn't go sideways. By Jan you'll be in Snow and you'll want the thing indoors anyway so no neighborhood thugs get free ditch rides.
Old Nov 25, 2013 | 12:10 PM
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Amazing attention to detail, love it. I wouldn't pay $950 for a hardtop, especially one that you are going to paint anyways.

Should be able to find one with bad paint for ~700 or so.
Old Nov 25, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Fireindc
Amazing attention to detail, love it. I wouldn't pay $950 for a hardtop, especially one that you are going to paint anyways.

Should be able to find one with bad paint for ~700 or so.
I've tried to find one close enough to pickup for the price but no luck so far. Any that are around that price are on the east coast so shipping it would negate the price advantage. Or ones that are close enough need glass, new gaskets, and repair work to the shell. I'll see. If I can get it to the paint shop before they paint my car I don't think they'll raise the painting price(hopefully).

After I mount the brakes and wheels I'm going to roughly sand the bottom of the subframes and give the a quick lick of paint. Small scratches and dings that should be covered with paint.

Then I'm painting the steering rack

Cutting the rear bumper in half and cutting holes in the front bumper to remove a little weight.

Then clean the carpets and dye them black.

Then when my brother comes down I'm going to attack the wiring issues and get that sorted. Hopefully after that point no more work will need to be done besides painting the interior and laying down the coolmat product I bought for the driver interior and transmission tunnel heat wrap. When I bought the coolmat I also got a down pipe 25" 2600° downpipe 1/2 sleeve. I didn't want to buy downpipe wrap so this should make it so the downpipe doesn't get destroyed. Also need to put some reflective tape on the lines and master cylinders and modify the cheap turbo heat shield I bought from atpturbo to extend a little farther to cover the downpipe.

So a lot of work still need to be done when I put it like that. My right foot was literally baking on the drive home so I went a little overboard on heat proofing.
Old Nov 25, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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Anybody on this forum live in or around Sacramento California to pick up a hardtop for me? There is one for a great price but wouldn't be able to pick it up for a while.

I, as always, spoke to soon.
Old Nov 26, 2013 | 12:45 AM
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How does one replace the boot and/or the whole ball joint on the front lower control arm?

I noticed it was torn right in half while I was inspecting the boots and decided to replace it. I have the entire front subframe torn apart and all the bushings out but this is something I don't want to try before I can get the correct information....which I can't seem to find.

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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
Looks like you've optimised your "Track-Day only" storage space requirements to the max (tyres+seat) :P

PS: The one good thing about having OCD is that you'll never regret not fixing something while it was most convenient.
Old Nov 26, 2013 | 04:39 AM
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Ok I'm an idiot, they are the front upper control arm ball joints.

In this picture you can see what I'm asking. The two ball joints are completely different. One had a removable rubber boot, while the other(that was torn) had a permanent boot.

Removable on the left, torn permanent on the right

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Old Nov 26, 2013 | 01:36 PM
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I know you can replace and repack the joints, but I've never done it myself.

SEAL,DUST-BALL JOINT (H266-28-448) - $7.67 - H26628448

How you get it on there and repack and everything, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure you need to buy a brand new arm to truly replace it.
Old Nov 26, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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AFAIK to replace those you either:

1) buy oem replacement control arms.
2) buy these: V8 Roadsters adjustable/rebuildable front upper control arm ball joints - MiataRoadster - High-performance customer service...and parts for Roadsters

I may be wrong though, if anyone knows any other alternatives I'm all ears.
Old Nov 26, 2013 | 02:09 PM
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I've replaced all my ball joint and tie rod end dust boots. They tear, fact of life. As long as the joint is still tight and offers some resistance to being turned, you can repack and move on. Basically:

1. Clean out the old grease (as best you can).
2. Repack the ball joint with new grease (again, as best you can).
3. Go to HP or Lowe's racing department and buy PVC plumbing parts that snuggly fit the boot -- you will use these to press the boot on the joint.
4. Pack grease into the new boot.
5. Place boot over joint with your PVC press tool. Insert into vice and carefully press the new boot onto the joint until it's seated.
6. Done.

Note that the lower ball joint and tie rod ends are individually replaceable. The upper ball joint is integral to the upper control arm. Like Fire said, one of the benefits of the V8 roadster control arm is that the upper ball joint can be replaced.
Old Nov 26, 2013 | 02:17 PM
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Thanks guys I've got some replacements on the way.

Is it possible to powder coat the upper without damaging the ball joint? I think I have hit my limit on wire wheel grinding and want to just send it to my powdercoater along with the Lowers/subframe.
Old Nov 26, 2013 | 02:21 PM
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I'd be worried about the heat cooking out the grease. But keep in mind that the upper isn't nearly as loaded as the lower. It basically sees side loads.
Old Nov 26, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by hornetball
Like Fire said, one of the benefits of the V8 roadster control arm is that the upper ball joint can be replaced.
Actually, the ball joints I linked are replacements for use in the OEM control arm. From the description on the page I linked

"splines on housing match stock Mazda control arms for easy replacement"

You can press out the OE ball joint and run these replacements instead of buying new control arms. Pretty neat.
Old Nov 28, 2013 | 01:22 AM
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Well this is a "you should have checked this when you paid for it moment".

I received my TSE studs and even after telling the machine shop the length of the studs they didn't drill nearly deep enough. I'm not sure if that is because there wasn't enough material to use or not. I'm disappointed but I'm not going to waste my time sending it to another machine shape to fix it. More time and money down the hole.

I'm just going to measure the depth of each hole and cute the studs accordingly. Diamond edged cut off wheel should make short work of it followed by cleaning the burrs and filing it flat. Jeez I wish people would do their work correctly.
Old Nov 29, 2013 | 02:22 AM
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Painting....

Can't clean the dust off yet, hasn't hardened enough yet, so it looks worse in picture.

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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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Why would you cut holes in the front bumper?
Old Nov 29, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jacob300zx
Why would you cut holes in the front bumper?
Front bumper plastic impact bar.
Old Dec 1, 2013 | 04:22 AM
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Bethania Garage won't contact me back in regards to replacing my roll bar so for the price of shipping my old bar, I picked up the same model as mine from a fellow in Vegas. Paint was **** on it though, lots of wear and scratches etc. etc..

Stripped it with my new angle grinder(should have bought one ages ago) and sanded out any imperfections. Followed up with some VHT chassis & roll bar paint(I love this stuff)





Anyone recommend a good vendor for roll bar padding? Does TSE or 949Racing sell them?
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Old Dec 1, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
Bethania Garage won't contact me back in regards to replacing my roll bar
Hmmm. Maybe it's only for an original purchaser? I've never heard of BG being like that before.

Originally Posted by Jeffbucc
Anyone recommend a good vendor for roll bar padding? Does TSE or 949Racing sell them?
Obviously, BG has nice padding and covers that custom fit their bars. If you are just after padding material, most of the race equipment sites have it . . . SafeRacer, UltraShield, etc.
Old Dec 1, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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dried up it looks much better





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