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ofspunk7 03-02-2015 10:20 AM

Well you could dump a lot of money into it and save it... I guess I would see if it is rusted out anywhere. Get more pics, it is tempting for $500. Also $500 is asking price, so try and get it for $350 - $400.

aidandj 03-02-2015 10:23 AM

Ew. Not worth it at all.

Jeffbucc 03-02-2015 10:28 AM

I wouldn't consider it at all if I didn't have a spare 1.6 block, 2 5-speeds and a shitload of parts.

aidandj 03-02-2015 10:33 AM

Neverminddd. Send me a 5 speed :)

aidandj 03-02-2015 10:34 AM

Wait don't you already have a spare 1.6 block in your garage? You sent me the crank pulley off it.

hornetball 03-02-2015 10:36 AM

That guy from MN. LOL. There won't be even a "speck" of rust on this thing. High desert. End of story.

Those midwest/northeast guys just don't get it. And they keep buying local cars instead of springing $300 or so to get a completely rust-free car from another part of the country.

Would be a quick and easy fix. Needs a quicky paint job. Question is . . . can you resist being Jeffbucc? Can you do it quick and easy? You've got the parts laying around . . . . Look at this thing, still has its daisies! I'd totally do it. I'm thinking track car. ;)

ofspunk7 03-02-2015 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1211334)
That guy from MN. LOL. There won't be even a "speck" of rust on this thing. High desert. End of story.

I would agree for anyone who doesn't garage their car. That was the whole reason for me ditching the WRX and coming to the Miata world. Minnesota eats cars! It sucks.


Jeff - that is a good move, put more money into your car.

Jeffbucc 03-02-2015 11:20 AM

Yeah it all depends on what it looks like in person. I could flip it pretty easy, and I highly doubt it has rust.

I could buff the paint to the point where it looks shiny.

I have a spark 1.6 block, spare clutch, headlights, yadda yadda, so as long as I don't put any money into it it seems like a profit situation.

Course by the time I'm done I'd probably be tempted to build a NA track car knowing my personality...

Jeffbucc 03-02-2015 11:24 AM

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Hmm looks like a repaint now that I look at the rockers not being black.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425313524

curly 03-02-2015 11:28 AM

Cause that's its biggest problem...

Zaphod 03-02-2015 11:32 AM

That thing is done, don't do it. Look at the rear wheel wells and just above the side of the rear bumper...

Jeffbucc 03-02-2015 11:38 AM

Yeah the more I look at it, it is a mess. Maybe if I was serious about building a track car Lazarus style I'd be more tempted, just flights of fancy currently.

Monk 03-02-2015 11:40 AM

Ignore the haters Jeff. That car NEEDS you.

turbofan 03-02-2015 11:40 AM

I mean... See if the guy will take $250-300 for it. Can't lose really, just depends on if you want to mess with it.

Jeffbucc 03-02-2015 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1211364)
Ignore the haters Jeff. That car NEEDS you.

Dunno if I should listen to a guy who innovates spring loaded dildos in a shipping box.:rofl:

Monk 03-02-2015 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1211367)
Dunno if I should listen to a guy who innovates spring loaded dildos in a shipping box.:rofl:

It's exactly that kind of genius that you should be listening to.
Basically, I just want another amazing build thread to read.

rleete 03-02-2015 12:11 PM

My god, that thing is all but dead. Somebody shoot it.

EO2K 03-02-2015 12:16 PM

You knew better than to come here and ask this question :giggle:

shlammed 03-03-2015 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1209660)
Make sure you ask to get it surfaced, not just sanded.

nothing wrong with sanded, if you use an industrial sized sander and not a small 6x48 or something.

shlammed 03-03-2015 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by FAB (Post 1209723)
I also had doubts about this being Abe's work, maybe his earlier work?

This is why we use a huge aluminum back purging plate to pull the heat out of the flange during production.


Although im sure you check for flatness after welding, my first few manifolds were built with a 3/4" thick aluminum like that for a backing plate.

The plate after 3 manifolds was out 1/16" from the strong stainless pulling it out of spec.


I use 2" steel backing plate now... but if you surface the flange after welding and its still within spec-no worries.

Jeffbucc 03-04-2015 01:38 PM

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Does anyone happen to know what V-band flanges Abe uses?

I'm using the midpipe from my ARTech setup, and FAB9 leaves the rear portion of the downpipe unflanged for you to use your own solution. I need to buy the right V-band flange to weld on to the downpipe.

Here is the flange I mentioned. The clamp has this tiny crush gasket that goes in the middle of the clamp.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425494332

EO2K 03-04-2015 01:42 PM

I believe they *might* be from https://dixonvalve.com/. The clamp he sent me with my exhaust was from them, so I assume the v-band flanges are as well. I would shoot him an email and ask, he's pretty responsive.

I'd like to buy 2~3 more sets of his v-band flanges and clamps for when I build the rest of my exhaust, specifically because I like those little gaskety things his setup uses.

Jeffbucc 03-04-2015 01:45 PM

Thanks G. The gaskets seal well for sure, but they are a bitch to get in the middle of the flange while slipping the clamp over. Took a lot of finagling to get it centered correctly.

What is Abe's user name on this forum?

turbofan 03-04-2015 01:48 PM

I believe it's just ARTech.

EO2K 03-04-2015 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1212070)
Thanks G. The gaskets seal well for sure, but they are a bitch to get in the middle of the flange while slipping the clamp over. Took a lot of finagling to get it centered correctly.

What is Abe's user name on this forum?

A couple little blobs of RTV to hold it to one of the flanges would probably help hold it in place. It would burn off pretty quickly, but then its not there to seal.


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1212074)
I believe it's just ARTech.

Yup. It usually takes him a while to answer PMs though, he doesn't swing though here super often. I just use the email address on his site.

shlammed 03-04-2015 03:18 PM

They are process flanges "ferrule". I use them when I need vbands too.

I use the long butt weld ferrules so you dont have to worry about them warping to oblivion when you weld them-unlike the short ones.

Ryan_G 03-04-2015 03:26 PM

I need to order one of these flanges too and I am having trouble locating a place to purchase them. Anyone got a link directly to the flange? I can't find anything on the dixon site.

Jeffbucc 03-05-2015 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan_G (Post 1212101)
I need to order one of these flanges too and I am having trouble locating a place to purchase them. Anyone got a link directly to the flange? I can't find anything on the dixon site.

abe@artechfabrication.com is his email. I sent him an email trying to find more info on them and ended up just getting a flange, new clamp, and 3 gaskets(extras) from him instead of going through an alternate source.

aidandj 03-05-2015 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1212068)
Does anyone happen to know what V-band flanges Abe uses?

I'm using the midpipe from my ARTech setup, and FAB9 leaves the rear portion of the downpipe unflanged for you to use your own solution. I need to buy the right V-band flange to weld on to the downpipe.

Here is the flange I mentioned. The clamp has this tiny crush gasket that goes in the middle of the clamp.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425494332

Mmmm dat ppf.

Monk 03-05-2015 11:22 AM

Seriously, how the hell is this thing still that clean underneath?

Braineack 03-05-2015 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1212078)
A couple little blobs of RTV to hold it to one of the flanges would probably help hold it in place. It would burn off pretty quickly, but then its not there to seal.

it wont burn off. and use copper rtv.

Jeffbucc 03-05-2015 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1212255)
Seriously, how the hell is this thing still that clean underneath?

I super heat my water till it phase changes!

http://imagecdn-1.findnsave.com/66/6946213

EO2K 03-05-2015 11:30 AM

I imagine he cleans it in his sleep.

hornetball 03-05-2015 12:28 PM

You can get a lot done without women in your life.

FAB 03-05-2015 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1212287)
You can get a lot done without women in your life.

If someone is looking for a quote for their signature this might be your guy right here...

Mobius 03-05-2015 03:29 PM

That's a good one. High risk factor for me to deploy that one, though.

TorqueZombie 03-06-2015 02:37 AM

Would rock as quote. Definitaly okay with house husband duties. I burn honey do lists

Jeffbucc 03-07-2015 07:24 AM

$1500 94 M Edition w/hardtop. Pretty beat but the hard top is tipping me away from "hell no"
94 Mazda Miata M edition

#beergoggles:rofl:

Efini~FC3S 03-07-2015 07:48 AM

Yea...but if anyone can bring it back from the brink, it's you Jeff!

At $1200-1300 this is a no brainer. Sub $1500 miatas with a decent shape hard top are a buy sight unseen sort of deal.

Go now...before it's too late!

Monk 03-07-2015 08:46 AM

As much as I would love to see you restore another car; that thing is a complete pile of shit.
I suppose you could at least make your money back in selling the diff and block, so cheap hard top?

Jeffbucc 03-07-2015 08:51 AM

I'm not really too serious about any of these. Just always looking just in case something promising comes along.

Plus, I think my pops would be less than ok with using another garage bay space! Maybe when I find a decent 2 car garage apartment to rent that isn't $$$$ I will.

curly 03-07-2015 11:12 AM

You guys are such chicken shit. That '94 is a gold mine. Low ball for $1200, fix it, replace or reupholster the seats, decide if you wanna 5-speed swap, steam clean the engine, shampoo the carpet, and you've got a $3-$4 car, depending on whether or not you find a m.netter to sell it to. M-edition bro!

Ed would be all over that shit.

Jeffbucc 03-07-2015 11:16 AM

I'd totally buy it if I didn't want to overstep my Dad's generosity with using his garage and I didn't just spend 8 grand on new equipment, repairs, and other bullshit....and just purchase a whole new turbo setup as well.

Jeff is going to build up the reserves till life stops punching me in the dick.

curly 03-07-2015 11:19 AM

Use the Ed philosophy, spend $1500-$2000 now, make $1501-$2001 later!

turbofan 03-07-2015 11:43 AM

:hahano:

Everything that has been said about me in the last few posts is true.

aidandj 03-07-2015 08:28 PM

Ed go buy a house :) you'll have less useless car money and I'll a place to live in june.

aidandj 03-07-2015 08:29 PM

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This one only needs a bit of body work and some frame straightening.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1425778190

turbofan 03-07-2015 09:28 PM

:bowrofl:

18psi 03-07-2015 11:44 PM

lol

aidandj 03-07-2015 11:45 PM

To clarify I did not mean I was going to live with Ed, but his house is near where I am looking for one lol. :)

18psi 03-07-2015 11:48 PM

you just gave up your secret

time to come out now

aidandj 03-07-2015 11:49 PM

Really? Were on MT.net, nobody needs to come out when you all share the same closet.

EO2K 03-07-2015 11:56 PM

Winning! :makeout:

Mobius 03-08-2015 05:02 AM

Hah! Good one!

aidandj 03-08-2015 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1212975)
Winning! :makeout:

Sig'd? I'm honored.

Jeffbucc 03-10-2015 05:03 PM

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It's happening soon, should get it in time for the annual old airport autox in St George this weekend.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426021406


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turbofan 03-10-2015 06:13 PM

:drool:

That downpipe. Pie cuts. Art. Fashion. Beauty.

18psi 03-10-2015 07:07 PM

cannot wait.

BoostedSmurf 03-10-2015 07:09 PM

Was waiting for you to post something up! Can't wait to see how it does on your car. Should look great in your already super clean engine bay. Everyone knows the first step to running this hotside is to strip down and paint your bay so it doesn't look out of place in a dirty bay lol

Jeffbucc 03-10-2015 09:51 PM

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There are definitely some areas that need to be touched up but I'm not too worried about it.

Putting the turbo in is the easy part, the "fun" part is making all the new lines for it....I went a little overboard on connectors.

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