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18psi 05-26-2015 09:41 PM

he can't respond due to the heart attack he got from G's post

His last words were...."steam cleaner"

Jeffbucc 05-26-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1235018)
Jeff does not sleep. Like a dolphin, he simply shuts down one brain hemisphere at a time. When the right side is shut down, he turns a wrench. When the left side sleeps he polishes things.

:rofl::rofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Of all the superpowers I wish I could have it is not having to sleep. Dolphins are too...rapey though.

G, I ain't taking your challenge unless you can show you did all the work to clean up that motor yourself!:fawk:

Besides my engine bay currently looks like this...I just pretend it isn't there currently. Ignore the vomited oil cooler oil.


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Jeffbucc 05-28-2015 09:31 PM

I have nothing to report other than absolutely loving that front main seal tool from FM. Thread on bolt, tighten bolt till it bottoms out, pull off. Definitely worth it over trying to find that right sized scrap of wood/metal/socket that fits.

I did not so much enjoy the removal of said seal. Holy hell that thing is in there tight. Broke my hooked dental pick on the first go.

Ziggo 05-28-2015 09:40 PM

I usually drill two holes on opposite sides of the seal, then thread in a couple self tapping stainless screws a couple turns. Yank on the screws with a tool of your choosing and it will work the seal out.

Just finished this thread yesterday, awesome work. My 93 isn't getting nearly the love. I went the other way, decided I would just let it look like hell since I didn't want to bother with doing everything to perfection.

BTMiata 05-28-2015 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Ziggo (Post 1235758)
I usually drill two holes on opposite sides of the seal, then thread in a couple self tapping stainless screws a couple turns. Yank on the screws with a tool of your choosing and it will work the seal out.

Just finished this thread yesterday, awesome work. My 93 isn't getting nearly the love. I went the other way, decided I would just let it look like hell since I didn't want to bother with doing everything to perfection.

Beat me to it... I do the drill a small hole trick and small screw and it works perfect every time!

revlimiter 05-29-2015 09:07 PM

I often joke that Sharka's natural environment is being disassembled and on jack stands. I think yours shares that trait.

eduTechnic 06-05-2015 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Monk (Post 1235018)
Jeff does not sleep. Like a dolphin, he simply shuts down one brain hemisphere at a time. When the right side is shut down, he turns a wrench. When the left side sleeps he polishes things.

Funniest shit I've read all week! :rofl:

Keep up the good work Jefe. The Vanagon looks great, the father is stoked.

hornetball 06-05-2015 03:20 PM

We need a link to Jeff's vanagon build thread, wherever it is. Must be epic.

Jeffbucc 06-09-2015 10:36 AM

93' Miata stolen and flipped build thread
 
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Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1237939)
We need a link to Jeff's vanagon build thread, wherever it is. Must be epic.

No build thread on the vanagon. We are contemplating a WRX swap or a 2.2 VW watercooled built motor swap to give it a little more balls than the gutless 2.1 that is in it. so not getting a ton done on it till we decided which route he wants to go. he is one of those OEM guys so I think he is a little scared of the WRX swap regardless or there being kits that make it plug and play.

Bryan @ Fab9 is building an extremely pretty motor

http://cdn6.bigcommerce.com/s-uqwsas...g?t=1431654404

and since his pulleys are these pretty purple powdercoated pieces and seeing as I needed the 1.8 pulleys for my ATI damper he sent me his old ones along with a new crank bolt and woodruff key.

all that is rather not news worthy but it is the shipped from name on the package that made me laugh. All my new employees weren't here for Monk's spring loaded dildo package and so they were looking at me a little disgusted this morning when I came into the bakery.

I have no idea why... Bryan you dick :rofl:

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18psi 06-09-2015 10:40 AM

Mr. Bukake:giggle:

On my ID1000's he put:

"Assless chaps contest winner" as the name

Jeffbucc 06-09-2015 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1238797)
Mr. Bukake:giggle:

On my ID1000's he put:

"Assless chaps contest winner" as the name

:bowrofl:

I guess I'm desensitized from Monk. I don't think anyone can top him after that.

hornetball 06-09-2015 11:05 AM

I dunno'. What Bryan did was pretty understated yet devastating when sent through Mormon-land. It's right up there!

Jeffbucc 06-09-2015 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1238813)
I dunno'. What Bryan did was pretty understated yet devastating when sent through Mormon-land. It's right up there!

Especially when one of my employees is a return missionary and still hasn't "deprogrammed" from 2 years overseas living and breathing religion. I loved how uncomfortable she was around me till I explained Bryan's shenanigans.

I'm really really hoping that when I call the machine shop today the head will be done. He has lengthened the completion date by a couple weeks so I'm getting a little bit irritated. :vash:

hornetball 06-09-2015 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1238819)
I loved how uncomfortable she was around me till I explained Bryan's shenanigans.

So now she's comfortable? Hmmmm . . . . What's her number?

18psi 06-09-2015 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1238819)
Especially when one of my employees is a return missionary and still hasn't "deprogrammed" from 2 years overseas living and breathing religion. I loved how uncomfortable she was around me till I explained Bryan's shenanigans.

I'm really really hoping that when I call the machine shop today the head will be done. He has lengthened the completion date by a couple weeks so I'm getting a little bit irritated. :vash:

don't be irritated that the guy wants to give you good head

Jeffbucc 06-09-2015 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1238822)
So now she's comfortable? Hmmmm . . . . What's her number?

Trust me, it ain't worth the hassle trying to go there. There are easier ways to get action then the slow breaking down of someone's religious walls.


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1238831)
don't be irritated that the guy wants to give you good head

I know but after 1.5 months of no head sometimes you just need it regardless of quality!

18psi 06-09-2015 11:46 AM

:bowrofl:

Jeffbucc 06-09-2015 08:18 PM

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Today...was a good day. Seeing as it is my birthday next month, I'm calling this an early birthday present...to myself.

He was surprised it was running on even 3 cylinders after tearing it apart. Said there was only about a hairs width of valve seat actually sealing the valves.

Came out clean with nice fat valve seats and lots o' spring pressure...now to pace myself putting it back together! Don't do it all in one night, don't do it all in one night.

Major thanks to Bryan @ Fab9Tuning as always for helping me get all this shit fast and dealing with my pestering questions.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1433895523

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ATI Damper showed up as well

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1433895523

turbofan 06-09-2015 08:23 PM

Absolutely beautiful. Very nice.

hornetball 06-09-2015 08:32 PM

My latest head has been working great. Hope this one works the same way for you.

On the rebuild from last year, that first machine shop bead blasted the head and then left some grit in the oil passages. That basically ruined the head and two camshafts. I noticed yours has been bead blasted. Might be worth pulling an oil passage plug and taking a look.

Jeffbucc 06-09-2015 08:41 PM

I did notice the errant metal shaving here and there. Those plugs tricky to pull at all?

I hope it works well. I don't want to burn this much money again any time soon.

EO2K 06-09-2015 08:46 PM

IIRC they are just 1/8" NPT plugs with an allen hole in the end. I pulled one out of a water passage on my head and it came out frighteningly easily. I'd imagine they would go back it without issue provided they were properly cleaned and an oil resistant sealant was used.

Though you might want someone with more experience with this to chime in here.

hornetball 06-09-2015 08:48 PM

They are just pipe plugs. Use Permatex thread sealant or old-school Indianhead Shellac when you put them back in. You could also just tell the shop you're concerned about the bead blasting and see what they say about the cleaning they did. No shop wants a pissed customer.

Normally, when I get a head from a shop, there is assembly lube on the cam lobes and journals. Yours looks dry. ??

EO2K 06-09-2015 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1239071)
Normally, when I get a head from a shop, there is assembly lube on the cam lobes. Yours looks dry. ??

I noticed this as well. My fancy head was delivered all lubed up on the cam journals but not the lobes. I plan on lubing it up good before first start.

Jeffbucc 06-09-2015 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1239073)
I noticed this as well. My fancy head was delivered all lubed up on the cam journals but not the lobes. I plan on lubing it up good before first start.

Mine is like this, just hard to see in the photo. Journals are lubed up just not the lobes.

Jeffbucc 06-09-2015 11:12 PM

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Also figured out how I'm going to mount my Meth tank and pump in the trunk.

The shelf under the trunk tension rods for a nice clean out of the way setup.

20 M6x1.0 rivnuts and this puppy and it's gonna be sweet!(Amazon Prime you evil temptress)

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1433905943

Jeffbucc 06-10-2015 10:32 AM

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Inner monologue
"I'm going to get so much assembled tonight so psyched to drive!"
...

Yeah right, it's like I forget I have a tick when I notice something isn't shiny or a tiny ignorable mite or rust.

Luckily my pops got me this to help work on his monumentally rusty VW. Why. Did. I. Not. Get. One. Sooner! No more die grinder nonsense and it halfs the time getting 90% of paint/oxidation/et al off the part.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1433946765

So I polished up my CAS and rear water neck then used a little aluminum polish to give it that nice burnished look.

Then I was about to put the pulleys from Bryan on and noticed the paint was chipping and the water pulley had some slight rust on it so I cleaned that all up and sanded with 400, etching primer, sanded, and used my favorite paint rollbar & chassis semi gloss black. I think I've used over 20 cans of this stuff on the car and it all has held up superbly(results may vary depending on prep.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1433946765

Now here is where I pause and use a little common sense. I want to paint these but I also don't want to fuck with the cam gears too much by disassembling them and losing their initial adjustment which I'm assuming is "spot on". Definitely don't want to replace with new as the prices on them are absurb. May just clean them up a little and slot them back on, they haven't bugged me this long so it is obviously "on the teetering edge of *fuck it*"

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1433946765

EO2K, I couldn't rise to the challenge, but I got all the crap my steam cleaner could pull off so it'll have to do. The slight surface rust on the block would be a royal PITA to paint so since it will be all covered up....meh.

On that note, the crank shaft has a little rust on it, but I don't want to mess with the tolerances on that...any suggestions?

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curly 06-10-2015 11:25 AM

Crank shaft: don't touch.

Monk 06-10-2015 11:58 AM

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You don't always have to grind rust:

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Jeffbucc 06-10-2015 12:56 PM

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Anyone see a problem with cutting off 1/2" of this off the alternator pulley? Simply too wide in this format to get a nut on the threads.


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rleete 06-10-2015 02:23 PM

As long as there's proper bearing surface for the shaft, no.

Jeffbucc 06-10-2015 03:42 PM

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You win this time sleep deprivation...Dammit I'm an idiot.
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EO2K 06-10-2015 03:48 PM

Wait, did you just do what I think you did?

Jeffbucc 06-10-2015 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1239347)
Wait, did you just do what I think you did?

There is a spacer there if that is your cause of concern.

rleete 06-10-2015 07:54 PM

You went full retard on that one.

turbofan 06-10-2015 07:59 PM

So, you were supposed to put that spacer on first before pressing the pulley on?

Is that right?

rleete 06-10-2015 08:01 PM

Are you guys being deliberately obtuse?

curly 06-10-2015 08:42 PM

The pulley doesn't press on, it just slides on. Fairly loosely actually. Some pulleys have the spacer built in like the first pictured one, others require the spacer which he later found.

EO2K 06-10-2015 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1239436)
Are you guys being deliberately obtuse?

We've been accused of worse.

Jeffbucc 06-11-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by curly (Post 1239443)
The pulley doesn't press on, it just slides on. Fairly loosely actually. Some pulleys have the spacer built in like the first pictured one, others require the spacer which he later found.

Yup, for those still a little unclear the 1.6pullry has a spacer so the pulley doesn't hit the alternator body. This spacer is used for one variant of the 1.8 pulley but the one I received from Bryan has it built into the pulley so it isn't needed.

Spacer on

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1434028470

Spacer off

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3 different pulleys with the 2 1.8 variants on the left.

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Jeffbucc 06-11-2015 10:53 PM

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I just got so lucky I can't even describe how happy I am right now.

I assembled the ATI damper by pulling off the timing belt cog and installed the 36-2 Flyin Miata timing wheel and the thin timing belt guide(necessary for the FM timing wheel), loctited them and checked the torque on all the bolts, checked alignment for TDC all is well.

Then I go to put on the damper installer and the M14x1.5 adapter just spins and won't thread on...fuck me. So I try to thread the new bolt on...spins free and won't thread....fuck me!

So I crawl under the car and poke my headlight and head in the nose of the crank and see the threads are garbage for about 1/4-1/2'. Original owner must have cross threaded it then noticed he did and backed the bolt out and reinstalled. So I start panicking thinking I'm screwed, then I have an idea HOPING based off the fact that it only looked like a little bit of the threads are mangled, that I can save it.

Bust ass over to Harbour Freight and buy their uber expensive Tap and Die kit45 Pc Titanium Nitride Coated Alloy Steel Metric Tap & Die Set Which luckily has a M14x1.5 tap in it.

So I oiled that bitch up and ran it through with strangely not much resistance. After about 1/2" it was able to be spun all the way to the back of the crank by hand, I backed it out and tried my crank bolt and it spun on perfectly woot!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1434077623

So dodging that bullet I threaded the damper installer on, pressed the damper on with the woodruff key partially in, and it was a bitch in a half. I had to remove my starter and jam a flathead in the flywheel. Even in 6th gear it was still pushing the car forward as I was pressing it on. Luckily that did the trick and it seated flush. Installed the crank bolt and torqued to 125 ft lbs. Good to go!

I don't want to do this job for a long time. Just waiting on my 99 crank sensor to wire in(shows up tomorrow) and then dropping the head on tonight since I was waiting on some ARP Ultra Torque assembly lube for their torque figures to be correct.

:party:

I zip tied the timing belt tight around the cog so it was firmly engaged with the teeth.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1434077623

EO2K 06-12-2015 12:04 AM

Nice, you dodged a bullet on that one :bigtu:


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1239791)
and then dropping the head on tonight since I was waiting on some ARP Ultra Torque assembly lube for their torque figures to be correct.

TORQUE SPECS THAT ARP INCLUDES WITH THEIR HEAD STUDS ARE NOT CORRECT.

Checkit: All About Head Studs ? revlimiter.net

You have been warned.

Jeffbucc 06-12-2015 12:07 AM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1239800)
Nice, you dodged a bullet on that one :bigtu:



TORQUE SPECS THAT ARP INCLUDES WITH THEIR HEAD STUDS ARE NOT CORRECT.

Checkit: All About Head Studs ? revlimiter.net

You have been warned.

I literally just put the head on and was just about to put the studs back on. God bless.

EO2K 06-12-2015 12:10 AM

After extensive forum archaeology I chose the stock 54-60 ft/lbs and used the stock washers with ARP studs, but you can do whatever you like. ;)

Edit: Checked my notes and edited to reflect reality.

Jeffbucc 06-12-2015 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1239803)
After extensive forum archaeology I chose 60 ft/lbs and used the stock washers, but you can do whatever you like. ;)

Considering I have no other washer than the ones on the head at the time I'll just reuse those and clamp in 3 stages to whatever revlimiter did. Kind annoyed I forgot to buy the 99 sensor and I am hoping to god I didn't delete that connector from my harness otherwise its gonna be fun to wire it in....luckily it was on amazon prime so it shows up tomorrow.

I have the rear water neck on and CAS, cam seals in place and timing adjustment cover on. After I torque the head on its just basic reinstall of peripherals!

stoves 06-12-2015 08:33 AM

Why did you have to jam a screw driver in the flywheel? On the installer you have, there is the hex on the end of that needs to be held with a socket and breaker bar while you turn the hex of the collar that pushes the damper on. Were you not holding the body of the installer from turning while pressing the damper on?

Jeffbucc 06-12-2015 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by stoves (Post 1239848)
Why did you have to jam a screw driver in the flywheel? On the installer you have, there is the hex on the end of that needs to be held with a socket and breaker bar while you turn the hex of the collar that pushes the damper on. Were you not holding the body of the installer from turning while pressing the damper on?

Well the only reason I needed to was when I was doing the last couple MM and torquing down the crank bolt. Honestly I'm glad I did because I found out only one stud was holding my starter in, so I am very glad I caught that before it damaged something. I may have exaggerated how difficult it was, it took some muscle but it was pretty smooth.

Got this far before I got called into the bakery for a malfunctioning wheat mill issue(damn employees don't know how to fix a tripped breaker)....damn, I was in my groove too!

All that is left is intake manifold, fuel rail, reinstall radiator, install 99 crank sensor, install cam gears...well a lot still but the hard stuff is out of the way.

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stoves 06-12-2015 10:31 AM

Ah, got it. Yeah, I had to figure something out for torquing my crank bolt too. That's why I made that crank holder out of 1/8" flatbar I mentioned a few pages back. At least you caught that starter bolt issue before it fell out.

eduTechnic 06-12-2015 11:21 AM

Looking good!

Jeffbucc 06-12-2015 11:32 AM

You know it's really bugging me that Gates belts aren't the same shade of blue. I plan on doing nothing but being mildy perturbed at them, but still, you had one job Gates!

hornetball 06-12-2015 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1239889)
You know it's really bugging me that Gates belts aren't the same shade of blue.

Dude, there's something wrong with you. :party:

18psi 06-12-2015 12:56 PM

dye the belts.

it's the only way

BoostedSmurf 06-12-2015 01:08 PM

50 shades of blue

18psi 06-12-2015 01:12 PM

Jeff blue himself

Jeffbucc 06-12-2015 02:23 PM

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I'm just sayin'...as a business owner, that would bother me if I was selling a product! Nothing more nor less.

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aidandj 06-12-2015 02:28 PM

Are all your donuts the same color? Do you have blue donuts?

EO2K 06-12-2015 02:35 PM


Jeffbucc 06-12-2015 02:36 PM

No blue donuts(ovens are ridiculously expensive), blue frosted sugar cookies yes, all frosted with the frosting "lines" in the same direction on a sheet pan of 12... ;)

Otherwise you are just a sick disgusting animal with your erratic directionless frosting job.

*Takes a deep breath to calm down OCD* I gotta go polish something...

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