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Old 03-27-2013, 04:52 PM   #141
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well vd will be pointless for seeing power curves then. port that sucker or get an ewg
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orrrrrrrrrr just build the motor already and actually enjoy the boost creep
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:54 PM   #143
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1. remove turbo
2. port wastegate
3. reinstall turbo
4. ???
5. Profit
There's a decent chance I'll be doing that in the near future if I can't get the wastegate adjusted to where I want this.

This thing spools up like my SR20 T25 - wastegate fully open? Who gives a ****, it's gonna still boost!

(Edit to your edit) It's an internal, adjustable wastegate bro.

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orrrrrrrrrr just build the motor already and actually enjoy the boost creep
I will be over the summer. I *do NOT* have the time to build the motor right now.
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this thread made me laugh when i came back to all the awesome mocking. Also lol @ 4th gear pulls with mad boost creep.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:17 AM   #145
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All right ladies, I've decided.

IF I can find a dyno tuner local to Spokane, I'll provide OHEMGEEZ Dynos for everyone.

So, yeah. Need to locate a dyno tuner.
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You're going to dyno the car with all the boost creep?
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:27 AM   #147
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Adjusted wastegate a retarded amount of times, my boost creep has been resolved now it appears.
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Adjusted wastegate a retarded amount of times, my boost creep has been resolved now it appears.
go do a 4th gear pull from 2k to redline.
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Finding a road to do that on will be...exceedingly difficult where I am now 18psi.
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This thing spools up like my SR20 T25 - wastegate fully open? Who gives a ****, it's gonna still boost!
your sr20 t25 setup must have sucked, your logs show 10psi at 4000RPM. My journal bearing china T3 on my 1.6L can make 20psi by 4K.
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your sr20 must have sucked, your logs show 10psi at 4000psi. My journal bearing china T3 on my 1.6L can make 20psi by 4K.
See: Boost creep issues.

The only reason it hit 10psi is due to boost creep, not because the wastegate was closed Brainy. It should have gone no higher than 160ish kpa with how the wastegate was adjusted.
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Finding a road to do that on will be...exceedingly difficult where I am now 18psi.
your car, your call.

I just want to say that if you can't do a full pull in 4th like I stated with whatever gayness you did to the wga, you're just working around a problem and it will result in fail and aids.
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See: Boost creep issues.

The only reason it hit 10psi is due to boost creep, not because the wastegate was closed Brainy. It should have gone no higher than 160ish kpa with how the wastegate was adjusted.
this is exactly what I'm talking about.

if you're just loosening the arm to the point of it not creeping anymore you're giving up a ton of your curve and that is insanely idiotic.

fix it right and stop being a gay
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See: Boost creep issues.

The only reason it hit 10psi is due to boost creep, not because the wastegate was closed Brainy. It should have gone no higher than 160ish kpa with how the wastegate was adjusted.
excpet it's holding 10psi to about 5600RPM where you lift and i see it's finally creeping to 11psi.
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your car, your call.

I just want to say that if you can't do a full pull in 4th like I stated with whatever gayness you did to the wga, you're just working around a problem and it will result in fail and aids.
Eh, I spent several hours adjusting preload on the WGA.

Too much preload, boost creep. Too little preload, spool becomes *****.

If I had a built motor, it wouldn't be an issue - but I'm trying to run boost at the bare minimum of the wga's capability, which is a pain in the *** to set up.
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excpet it's holding 10psi to about 5600RPM where you lift and i see it's finally creeping to 11psi.
Which is expected - when I lift, I hit boost cut @180kpa Brainylicious.

WGA was only supposed to hold 8-9psi (~160 kpa) the way it was adjusted.
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Eh, I spent several hours adjusting preload on the WGA.

Too much preload, boost creep. Too little preload, spool becomes *****.

If I had a built motor, it wouldn't be an issue - but I'm trying to run boost at the bare minimum of the wga's capability, which is a pain in the *** to set up.
You're being a retard and trying to band-aid an obvious problem instead of fixing it like you should.

I'm serious. Fix it.
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this is exactly what I'm talking about.

if you're just loosening the arm to the point of it not creeping anymore you're giving up a ton of your curve and that is insanely idiotic.

fix it right and stop being a gay
Wait, but if you loosen the arm to the point that it doesnt creep then your problem is that the actuator doesnt have enough throw to open the wastegate all the way. Which would be silly of precision to do. I think he hasnt fixed his creep problem, just made the car build boost slowly enough that he just doing run into creep.

I see 3 solutions:
port the wastegate
go external wastegate
stop being a bitch and just run whatever boost it creeps to
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You're being a retard and trying to band-aid an obvious problem instead of fixing it like you should.

I'm serious. Fix it.
Great. How?

(Edit) Read Leafy's post, and I did say it'll be ported in the future. Likely second weekend in April based on current schedule - can't do it right now.
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See post above

*edit: and I know you can easily run 12psi on that sucker, just be conservative with the timing to keep cyl pressures down
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