DS1 has a horrible Build Thread.
07-10-2013, 10:12 AM
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So while browsing the 'bay I found a new seller that has a pretty decent little "kit" for sale. Its cheap as can be: TD05 Turbo Kit SS Manifold Downpipe 90 93 Mazda Miata MX 5 NA 1 6L B6ZE RS V6 | eBay
After that, for a SUPER SIMPLE setup the only other thing I would need is one of those cheap 12:1 FMU's, some oil lines, and some piping to go directly to the intake manifold.
My little 1.6 had an incident with Mobile 1 and is know somewhat unhappy, so I figure what the heck, lets throw $450 bucks at a turbo and make it a weekend project. Worst that could happen is I need a new engine.
Anything I'm missing here? Is this a truly horrible idea or just stupid enough that its still fun?
Thank guys! As always, I am jealous of all your turbo setups.
After that, for a SUPER SIMPLE setup the only other thing I would need is one of those cheap 12:1 FMU's, some oil lines, and some piping to go directly to the intake manifold.
My little 1.6 had an incident with Mobile 1 and is know somewhat unhappy, so I figure what the heck, lets throw $450 bucks at a turbo and make it a weekend project. Worst that could happen is I need a new engine.
Anything I'm missing here? Is this a truly horrible idea or just stupid enough that its still fun?
Thank guys! As always, I am jealous of all your turbo setups.
I didn't know better when I bought my turbo setup and ended up buying this "kit" from an older guy who never installed it on his Miata. I quickly figured out why- it was missing an alarming amount of the important required pieces- J pipe, oil and coolant unions, banjo bolts for coolant, barbed fittings, vacuum hose, etc. He didn't feel like finding out what threads were necessary or what bolts were important. On the positive side, the seller had a name brand intercooler and piping that came with the sale. Another negative is that the oil and coolant drains are not correct in regards to flow, so I had to reclock the turbo orientation and build a new wastegate bracket. I also made relief cuts in the manifold like folks do with the Greddy kit in order to prevent the welds from breaking. The downpipe will fir the engine bay very well, but will not reach your stock exhaust. You will be making a trip to the exhaust shop. The lowermost downpipe bolt is a bitch to get in and you'll never make it work. I bought a stud, worked it in to the housing, and got a nut onto it using a wrench that had to be cut and welded just to get access to it (talk about lost time). It still leaks slightly, but not annoyingly so.
Though I purchased the "kit" for little money, there are many parts that I did not (and would never) skimp on. As most are suggesting here, engine management is paramount. I purchased the necessary supporting mods- Wideband, Megasquirt PNP, IAT conversion, FM TB pipe for IAT sensor and BOV, injectors, MBC, and an upgraded clutch, etc and installed them little by little and learned how to use them. Shortly after finishing, I had the engine professionally tuned. It puts down 164 at 8 lbs.
Anyway, I spent very little on the hard parts of the kit and built it little by little until I was ready to install it over a weekend, but spent A TON of time researching the little hardware parts that I needed. Unless you have a perfect kit, do not expect a weekend to have your loose ends tied up. Expect 2 weekends, or work on the car for 4-5 days straight.
If I had to do this again (and I will if the engine ever blows) I'd purchase the FM kit and aforementioned supporting mods and be done with it. The time pent cobbling together the extra pieces was extra time I could have been working on the car. Thankfully I had enough sense to collect every missing piece little by little, but the closer I got to having everything I needed to start the build (I didn't start tearing down the car until the last piece was in the mail) the more I wanted to get it done.
In conclusion, having everything in front of you ready to go in a proper kit from Flyin' Miata and knowing it is going to be right is worth the premium price.
For now, I'll keep beating the **** out of the turbo and engine (it has 170k on it, and 165 when FI was added) and racing it until one or the other gives up. Then I'll spring for the big boy toys.
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07-10-2013, 10:33 AM
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Frapjap, I hear ya! I spent a lot of time researching this turbo stuff some years ago... but man does it take a lot of time. Thats why I'm hoping to get the important stuff (turbo, manifold, DP, ECU) out of the way with good stuff I know will work from BEGI and MS.
Does the BEGI starter kit come with oil lines?
Does the BEGI starter kit come with oil lines?
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07-10-2013, 12:05 PM
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No the starter kit is just the mani, downpipe, and turbo plus mounting hardware for said items. Thats why its a starter kit. If you want all the lines and everything you could buy their Shanghai-S which is about 500 or so more. If you do buy the starter kit, plan on making a trip to an auto parts store at least ten times
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07-11-2013, 11:38 AM
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Are there any good (or I should say "proven") chinese turbo's that bolt right up to FM's DP/Manifold kit?
Flyin' Miata : Turbochargers : Parts and upgrades : DIY turbo manifold/outlet/downpipe
If I could bag one for under $200 then it would be a better and cheaper setup than BEGI's starter kit. Plus then I don't have to worry about BEGI being.... well... BEGI.
Flyin' Miata : Turbochargers : Parts and upgrades : DIY turbo manifold/outlet/downpipe
If I could bag one for under $200 then it would be a better and cheaper setup than BEGI's starter kit. Plus then I don't have to worry about BEGI being.... well... BEGI.
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07-12-2013, 12:48 AM
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You tap oil from where the oil pressure sensor is, so you have to get a fitting that will allow the tap and oil pressure sensor.
I only read the 2 posts before me so this may or may not be what he is referring too.
I only read the 2 posts before me so this may or may not be what he is referring too.
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07-12-2013, 08:15 AM
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That would be this thread:
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo...n-73794/page3/
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