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Old 07-31-2017, 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by aidandj
Cookie sheet makes it worse. Fans are for idling in traffic only. At speed it's just airflow through the rad.
You mean, sealing the back of the radiator to the fan basically inhibits airflow at speed, right?

That's kind of what I mean, at speed, I'm great, but red light to green light, building some boost, my temps should be solid with just one OEM fan on a crossflow? Even at much higher boost levels, basically nearing yours now.
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One oem fan on a down low csf works fine for me. Temps never go above 205 (fan on setpoint)
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Thank you.
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***Aidan isn't in a hot part of the world.

A full fan shroud and a 17in or greater Spal or two properly functioning stock fans sealed to the radiator are necessary here with over 200whp at the track if you have an A/C condenser in the way. Over 250whp required an oil cooler. The giant Spal doesn't block airflow like a smaller fan would. There's lots of open space.

The fan shroud or dual fans prevent reversion of hot air when sitting still and make a huge difference in traffic with the A/C, fwiw.
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
***Aidan isn't in a hot part of the world.

A full fan shroud and a 17in or greater Spal or two properly functioning stock fans sealed to the radiator are necessary here with over 200whp at the track if you have an A/C condenser in the way. Over 250whp required an oil cooler. The giant Spal doesn't block airflow like a smaller fan would. There's lots of open space.

The fan shroud or dual fans prevent reversion of hot air when sitting still and make a huge difference in traffic with the A/C, fwiw.
This Thursday's track day is forecasted to be 111*, not exactly chilly...
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It was 95* at autox this weekend. sealing a spal to a radiator with a cookie sheet blocks off a ton of usable area. If your fans are on while track driving you need better ducting. No fan that fits in a miata engine bay will move as much air as proper ducting.
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the OEM's use a flapper of sorts that blows open when there is a head pressure in the fan shroud (aka when your driving). you could easily incorporate that into any kind of shroud you have.

This is a well documented visualization of what im talking about. it is a viper, but even my MINI had this.
Project Viper GTS: Part 5 - Radiator Fan & Wiring Upgrade > MotoIQ - Automotive Tech, Project Cars, Performance & Motorsports
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I like things like that. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Lexzar
I like things like that. Thank you.
no problem.

I cant remember the source, but I found the rubber flaps available on summit racing... maybe a SPAL product now that im thinking about it.


EDIT* Here is a link to the SPAL flap.
https://www.summitracing.com/int/par...0012/overview/

not sure how they mount, but they are cheap and would be easy to incorporate.
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VladiTune revision sent. Subscribing to thread
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I read that as Vlad-ee-tune every time and I have a chuckle. Appreciate all the help.

even if I am deaf now
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DAT SPOOL NOISE DOE

But seriously, I love how efr's sound at part throttle. Jet plane
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^ EFR spool whistle love crew signing in.
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I commonly play with the throttle to goes *swiiiiilllsh*

Also hope the sounds increase when I have a built block, 20psi 91oct and maybe 25psi e85? 18psi can you help on that end when I get there?
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Enjoy the noises now...

.....because at 25psi on e85 you'll be clenching your butt and giggling so hard you won't even notice them
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I need it to blow the idea of a big turbo s52 out of my mind.
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I had to drive the miata out to meet up with some car buddies for tacos and so (without Vlad's guidance, and I think this is where it goes wrong) I pulled out the laptop, did just a bit of fuel autotuning WOT and cruising. Then I noticed it was making a bit more popping sounds than normal.

My buddy saw something and told me to test it.


So there you have it, all the ricers who want a "flame tune" like the VQ35/37 guys, just have Vlad tune your car and drive it without tuning any of the vacuum load fuel cells.
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I'm frikken wiped out from troubleshooting/tuning subaru's all day today
revision tomorrow
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